MemberYou just dropped $9K on experimental shots. If they work for you, by all means record a Neuromod style testimonial video. Beyond that all I see here are people kvetching and not doing anything.
Mindfulness Is Key to Tinnitus Relief Research Reveals
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You just dropped $9K on experimental shots. If they work for you, by all means record a Neuromod style testimonial video. Beyond that all I see here are people kvetching and not doing anything.
- Oct 17, 2017
- 644
- Tinnitus Since
- 2005
- Cause of Tinnitus
- unknown - possibly hereditary
I would kill to see @JohnAdams doing a video testimonial with his face unmasked.
Unlike those brave Neuromod testimony patients, I reckon John won't do that because he knows within him he spent $9,000 on wishywashy "science" to fill the pockets of some scammy Korean charlatan
I don't mean to offend anyone... just my simple thoughts!
Unlike those brave Neuromod testimony patients, I reckon John won't do that because he knows within him he spent $9,000 on wishywashy "science" to fill the pockets of some scammy Korean charlatan
I don't mean to offend anyone... just my simple thoughts!
Drone Draper
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Mindfulness is, no doubt, useful to help some tinnitus sufferers in lieu of a cure.
But Mindfulness is EVERYWHERE. Calm is now worth $1bn.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technol...calm-becomes-first-mindfulness-company-worth/
Is there really any need to do more research? Can't the BTA just link up with someone like Calm, have a database of practitioners on their website and call it a day? Is there really any need to do their own research?
Drone Draper
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- Oct 17, 2017
- 644
- Tinnitus Since
- 2005
- Cause of Tinnitus
- unknown - possibly hereditary
Drone Draper
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Why thank you, ma'am. I like your posts, btw, you're quite funny.
I picked the name because I work in marketing and I work for a bank, which often makes me feel like a drone. Also, there's the constant drone of my tinnitus.
I picked the name because I work in marketing and I work for a bank, which often makes me feel like a drone. Also, there's the constant drone of my tinnitus.
I thought maybe it was because you were a tortured corporate genius hiding a former secret identity. With tinnitus.
I think he's too worried he might get laughed off the site if he posts the story then stays here each day. That would never happen. MPP is too cool.
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- Aug 21, 2014
- 5,049
- Tinnitus Since
- 1999
- Cause of Tinnitus
- karma
I think it's more that tinnitus involves touch-sensing data that passes through the TMJ crossing over into audio -- so if you have tinnitus and TMJ, your TMJ is going to make the tinnitus seem louder and more prominent, because it's increasing the chatter on those nerves.
It's also possible that severe, untreated TMJ over a period of time could cause nerve compression, demylineation and eventually damage which could lead to hearing loss.
Interesting. My impression of tinnitus is that, like some other chronic conditions, there can be a number of contributory factors. Hearing loss is presumably the no. 1 associate, stress/negative emotions the 2nd most obvious, but I wonder if things like neck muscle tension, TMJ feed into it - as you describe - what I mean is, people often see their tinnitus as just caused by one thing, or as idiopathic. But it can be multifactorial.
I see stress/negative emotions as a result of T rather than a cause. We often see them correlated, and for good reason, but the causality hasn't been established.
On the other hand, there seems to be strong causality between hearing loss and T (in that direction), not only because of the countless reports of T showing up after an acoustic trauma in humans (sometimes even days/weeks), but also because it's such a strong causality that it has become the main way of inducing T in animal experiments.
Has it not? Textbooks and papers seem to talk of stress as a certain potential cause of tinnitus, but after a quick look I can't find original data papers on this. I have many health problems and a lot of them did develop after periods of higher stress (annoyingly usually caused by the stress of dealing with a job/life along with the prior health conditions). I most definitely think my tinnitus gets worse when I'm stress and that seems a common thing here. That is not to say that stress is a zero factor in some others' tinnitus.
I have never found any paper showing causality.
But everyone is under stress in our current society. When was the last time you asked someone "hey how is life treating you?" and they told you "just peachy, I have no stress, I love it!"
I can't remember the last time I wasn't stressed in life. Of course, one can always find peaks and valleys in their stress levels, but as a society, we live on stress, and some would argue that it is one of the reasons we survive as species.
I don't know what "worse" means in your text. I do have a harder time to cope when I'm stressed or tired too, but I don't think the bogus stimulus has any difference in intensity.
It's like dealing with a screaming baby: when you are tired or stressed, it's much more difficult to deal with. I've been there pre-tinnitus.
Sorry, this whole study is bogus.
The key to tinnitus relief is a cure for tinnitus.
Insert any other disease into the title of this thread and look how ridiculous it sounds.
Mindfulness is the key to ___________relief, research reveals.
1. HIV
2. Cancer
3. Polio
4. Gangrene
5. Diabetes
6. Diarrhea
7. Schizophrenia
8. Genital warts
9. Tooth decay
10. Obesity
The key to tinnitus relief is a cure for tinnitus.
Insert any other disease into the title of this thread and look how ridiculous it sounds.
Mindfulness is the key to ___________relief, research reveals.
1. HIV
2. Cancer
3. Polio
4. Gangrene
5. Diabetes
6. Diarrhea
7. Schizophrenia
8. Genital warts
9. Tooth decay
10. Obesity
Worse means louder, rather than more difficult to deal with. My tinnitus is slightly odd in that the "loudness" varies like crazy day by day. As for "everyone is under stress", I'm sorry to see you write that, and can only hope you don't learn one day how wrongheaded a statement like that is. To assume that everyone has roughly equal stressors in their lives seems...odd.
The funding for tinnitus is low as it is. We aren't getting even a fraction of what cancer research is for example. So to make it short, we have a limited amount of funding. And by spending chunks of it on TRT/CBT/Mindfulness or other coping strategies we are decreasing the funding towards a cure. That's what upsets people!
If funding wasn't an issue in tinnitus research I'd agree with you and say "hey go nuts and research into what ever you want". But the reality is that we as a tinnitus community and the people researching it have to do with what we've got.
Yeah sorry. It went when I finally got a brace for my TMD late last year. It took a month for it to fade out of perception. Plus my jaw feels way better.
- Apr 30, 2018
- 2,507
- Tinnitus Since
- 02/2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Single 25 mg dose of (anticholinergic) drug Promethazine
Wow, sure happy for you to hear that! Do you have a more complete writeup on this somewhere? -- Thanks...
- Jan 25, 2013
- 3,576
- Tinnitus Since
- 2008
- Cause of Tinnitus
- TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
Glad you found relief. I keep forgetting to use mine, so have to set alarm clock to late PM to remind me. I have HF hearing loss too so that could be it. Have to keep trying everything as the noise is so annoying.
No I don't sorry. I could make one but I wanted to only make one success story on the page, and I'm saving it for something even better.
- Apr 30, 2018
- 2,507
- Tinnitus Since
- 02/2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Single 25 mg dose of (anticholinergic) drug Promethazine
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Arseny
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- Nov 1, 2018
- 283
- Tinnitus Since
- 2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Possibly from problems with blood flow
I've practiced mindfulness before tinnitus and it has zero effect on it's volume, however it sometimes helps with perception.
I think it helped me to get through tough times, but if person didn't practice it before tinnitus it will be extremely hard to practice it and readjust.
But after gets tinnitus gets loud enough mindfulness is useless, because what can you do if you hear tinnitus over everything?
For me tinnitus gets really bad after noise exposure even with double protection.
At the end of the day when I'm in the car with earplugs and earmuffs all I hear is 95% tinnitus and 5% road noise.
MINDFULNESS? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???
It's so alien and intrusive it's impossible to habituate to or just to listen to it with cringing.
People are right that funding should go into developing an actual cure instead of these bogus studies.
I think it helped me to get through tough times, but if person didn't practice it before tinnitus it will be extremely hard to practice it and readjust.
But after gets tinnitus gets loud enough mindfulness is useless, because what can you do if you hear tinnitus over everything?
For me tinnitus gets really bad after noise exposure even with double protection.
At the end of the day when I'm in the car with earplugs and earmuffs all I hear is 95% tinnitus and 5% road noise.
MINDFULNESS? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???
It's so alien and intrusive it's impossible to habituate to or just to listen to it with cringing.
People are right that funding should go into developing an actual cure instead of these bogus studies.
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