MSG — Monosodium Glutamate

[Louise]

As we know this is a neurotoxin and something that tinnitus sufferers need to avoid. I found this link that lists other ingredients that have the same effect as MSG...

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/hiddensources.html

 

[calin]

Wow! Good find Louise!

I have avoided some of those listed as I identified a possibility that some of those ingredients spiked the T before seeing this list. This validates my suspicions.

I guess it is best of we pay attention to ingredients in packaging and then notice what happens when ingested... to get a feel for which one's increase the tinnitus.

 

[Louise]

Thanks Calin

I am going to have to take a printed copy of this around with me when shopping!

 

[calin]

Thanks Calin

I am going to have to take a printed copy of this around with me when shopping!

Funny... I was thinking the same!!!

 

[Petloy]

I have this printed out too. I've been avoiding food items with ingredients found in the list and My T has been controlled ever since (I started December 2012)!! My T reacts badly to MSG.

 

[Paul D]

Thanks Louise. I printed down the list, then did a little web surfing on glutamic acid. How can one possibly avoid even half of the items on the list in everyday food consumption? We've tried to limit processed food consumption for quite some time, but even that can be difficult in our ready-made, get it quick and easy world. Not many people prepare foods entirely from scratch anymore like our parents and grandparents did.

 

[Louise]

I know Paul, but prepare from scratch we have to do! I think once we put our mind to it and plan food out for a week its easier.

Do you know that Gluten forms Glumatic Acid too? I avoid Gluten, which I was doing anyway before T.

 

[calin]

Probably best to use organic foods. They don't use chemicals and such even when it is a "processed" type thing.

 

[click]

Thanks Louise. I printed down the list, then did a little web surfing on glutamic acid. How can one possibly avoid even half of the items on the list in everyday food consumption? We've tried to limit processed food consumption for quite some time, but even that can be difficult in our ready-made, get it quick and easy world. Not many people prepare foods entirely from scratch anymore like our parents and grandparents did.

If you can do it Paul it really does make a massive difference. It also gives us an element of control over something we seem to be able to do very little about. That control feels really good.

 

[Paul D]

If you can do it Paul it really does make a massive difference. It also gives us an element of control over something we seem to be able to do very little about. That control feels really good.

I printed it out so I could give it a second look later on this week. Though I don't know if I/we can muster the perseverance it would take to watch all those items on a daily basis. I do know that since really trying to eat healthier the last few years, limiting processed foods and avoiding all but the occasional junk food meal, both my and my wife's health have improved considerably. We rarely ever get sick anymore, not even the common cold.

 

[Louise]

I feel more inspired to eat better myself now. I'm not bad on the whole but could do a lot better. I need to cut out the evening glass or two of wine as well. That will be a blow as its my 'treat'. I'll substitute with some water with fresh lemon juice and ice-cubes in. Fool the brain into thinking its Sauvignon Blanc

 

[click]

I feel more inspired to eat better myself now. I'm not bad on the whole but could do a lot better. I need to cut out the evening glass or two of wine as well. That will be a blow as its my 'treat'. I'll substitute with some water with fresh lemon juice and ice-cubes in. Fool the brain into thinking its Sauvignon Blanc

Try making up rosehip tea (clipper organic is good) with a teaspoon of manuka honey (s'posed ot be good for a whole host of things) - let it go cold and then pour that over ice - 'tis good with home juiced pomegranate too Also the ginger clipper tea works well with this...

 

[Louise]

Mmmm, I like that sound of that first one and especially with home juiced Pomegranite. Brain might think its Rose

 

[J-rod]

Rather than make a new thread on MSG I'll just post this here. I was reading about MSG, once again, and looking for a counter agent.

Ran into this website here. http://letsgohealthy.blogspot.com/2012/12/msg-allergy-symptoms-and-how-to-treat-it.html

"Cream of Tartar. Keep a small container of cream of tartar nearby. When mixed with water, cream of tartar will immediately neutralize MSG poisoning, relieving most symptoms. Cream of tartar creates an alkaline-forming environment when ingested, raising the blood pH and stabilizing the system. Mix 1/2 teaspoon in eight oz. of water and drink, or sprinkle some in a small bottle of water, shake and drink."
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Has anyone tried this to see if it helps with their Tinnitus and MSG? Another question, Cream of Tartar is Potassium bitartrate, and just to be clear I take losartan hctz for high blood pressure. So is it safe to take Cream of Tartar under these conditions? Losartan increases potassium levels while HCTZ reduces potassium levels.

In the medication booklet it says, "Losartan may increase levels of blood potassium which can lead to serious heart problems (arrhythmias). Therefore, concomitant use of other substances that increase blood potassium-such as potassium-sparing diuretics (for example, spironolactone (Aldactone), triamterene, and amiloride), potassium supplements, or salt substitutes containing potassium may lead to dangerous increases in serum potassium."

I also found this website, and perhaps answered my own question.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/269198-side-effects-of-consuming-cream-of-tartar/

"People who take potassium-sparing diuretics such as aldactone and dyazide, beta-blocker drugs such as propranolol and lopressor, and ACE inhibitor medications such as vasotec and lisinopril, can develop high serum potassium levels, or hyperkalemia, while taking cream of tartar."
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[Lisa88]

Thanks for this list @Louise
My heart is breaking a little bit about the low fat milk and balsamic vinegar.

 

[J-rod]

Thanks for this list @Louise
My heart is breaking a little bit about the low fat milk and balsamic vinegar.

The page says, "suspected of containing or creating sufficient processed free glutamic acid". I'm not so sure about that, but regular balsamic vinegar contains Sulfites. If you react to MSG, then try organic balsamic vinegar and make sure it doesn't contain sulfites.

As for Milk, some would say as adults we shouldn't drink it. I don't have a problem drinking organic whole milk that I know of at least.

 

[Lisa88]

An no ... citrate? So Magnesium citrate, calcium citrate ... no good? Both seem to be very calming for me. Oi.

 

[J-rod]

An no ... citrate? So Magnesium citrate, calcium citrate ... no good? Both seem to be very calming for me. Oi.

Scary just how far down the rabbit hole goes sometimes Lisa88. I guess it depends if the citrate is from citrus or corn. Might be worth trying another type of Magnesium just to be on the safe side. I can't imagine trace amounts of free glutamic acids to be enough to trigger Tinnitus, then again who knows...

 

[Shawk]

It's in many, many foods and has numerous names to fool the consumer and has been linked to a great number of illnesses including tinnitus.

 

[Lisa88]

I am not sure about "citrate" in causing glutamate.

For example, here it says it is not a neurotoxin like the other formulations of magnesium listed.
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Heart-...oid---how-to-take-it-and--safety/show/1002415

I really miss my old magnesium brand which combined with calcium, D, zinc. Stopped taking it because of the citrate part.

Also, I have heard that too much calcium can be bad for tinnitus?

Any thoughts on any of this? @Markku @jazz or anyone?

Thanks.

 

[Julien87]

Hi, another interesting thread about this: https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/im-here-on-a-mission-and-furious.15219/

 

[undecided]

MSG is everywhere dude, when you talk fast foods, canned crap and lots of juices/energy drinks.
You can eat dirty and fast (I do), just make sure you prepare your dirt at home, using crap that you've hand picked.

 

[Mario martz]

My tinnitus is literally screaming, for these past 2 days I've been eating something that has MSG, do anyone around here, have had a similar experience?

Will it return back to baseline?

 

[IvanRus]

Hello friends. I have a question for you - can the intake of sodium glutamate lead to damage to the inner ear and an increase in tinnitus?

I just used instant noodles for a month, on average every 3 days. Everyone knows that there are a lot of sodium glutamate in the seasonings to this noodle, although I have never sprinkled all the salt, and somewhere half. I began to notice the increase in noise. Perhaps this is due to the consumption of sodium glutamate? I also came across one study, which states that glutamate sodium excitably acts on neurons and can lead to an increase.

What do you think I should do? Should I take GABA? Or NAC and more water? Are among you fans of "Chinese noodles"?

 

[IvanRus]

Funny... I was thinking the same!!!

I have this printed out too. I've been avoiding food items with ingredients found in the list and My T has been controlled ever since (I started December 2012)!! My T reacts badly to MSG.

Is it temporary. is it reversible after stopping the intake of sodium glutamate?

 

[IvanRus]

As we know this is a neurotoxin and something that tinnitus sufferers need to avoid. I found this link that lists other ingredients that have the same effect as MSG...

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/hiddensources.html

http://lurkmore.to/Глутамат_натрия

 

[DebInAustralia]

Hello friends. I have a question for you - can the intake of sodium glutamate lead to damage to the inner ear and an increase in tinnitus?

I just used instant noodles for a month, on average every 3 days. Everyone knows that there are a lot of sodium glutamate in the seasonings to this noodle, although I have never sprinkled all the salt, and somewhere half. I began to notice the increase in noise. Perhaps this is due to the consumption of sodium glutamate? I also came across one study, which states that glutamate sodium excitably acts on neurons and can lead to an increase.

What do you think I should do? Should I take GABA? Or NAC and more water? Are among you fans of "Chinese noodles"?

i have read that vit c will mop up excess msg.

 

[Red]

Probably best to use organic foods. They don't use chemicals and such even when it is a "processed" type thing.

Mmmm. Not always. Yeast Extract is commonly used in these types of products.
I do not try to avoid all these ingredients or else I will miss out on a lot. I have mild food allergies I just straight up ignore. But when I took it seriously trying to avoid ALL of these was really difficult.