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What happened to petitgarstimid?
Maybe he's got a goddamn NDA. Lol.
But srsly, haven't seen the dude and hope he's alright wherever he is...
 
What happened to petitgarstimid?
Maybe he's got a goddamn NDA. Lol.
But srsly, haven't seen the dude and hope he's alright wherever he is...
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We got T and HL literally only a few years or decades or century too early, in 200 years everyone will have perfect hearing and any loss will be fixed in a minute or less. It's so fcked. We made it all the way to the twenty first century just to be a drop too early.
 
Guys can we talk about those soundproof room experiments like 50 years ago where they took a bunch of normal people and stuck them in a soundproof room and they started hearing tinnitus. I forgot the scientist dude's name.

The scientist's conclusion was that T is normal; most people have it.

Why is that a more likely conclusion than either of the following
1) those people actually had (minor) hearing damage, which caused them very mild T, which they could only hear in a soundproof room. In industrial societies I think this is very reasonable.

2) they had good hearing and also didn't usually have tinnitus at all, but the very deprivation of the soundproof room caused them [temporary] T.
Like Schaette's earplug experiments.

Am I right.

@Contrast
 
Guys can we talk about those soundproof room experiments like 50 years ago where they took a bunch of normal people and stuck them in a soundproof room and they started hearing tinnitus. I forgot the scientist dude's name.

The scientist's conclusion was that T is normal; most people have it.

Why is that a more likely conclusion than either of the following
1) those people actually had (minor) hearing damage, which caused them very mild T, which they could only hear in a soundproof room. In industrial societies I think this is very reasonable.

2) they had good hearing and also didn't usually have tinnitus at all, but the very deprivation of the soundproof room caused them [temporary] T.
Like Schaette's earplug experiments.

Am I right.

@Contrast
yes like Roland Schaette's experiment.
 
Wish I was a mouse.
Lil fckers can hear up to 80 khz

At least till researchers give them tinnitus.
Can you imagine 75 khz tinnitus. ~shudders~
 
Is the current rate (I.e. past few decades and up until the present) of scientific advances medicine better expressed linearly, or logarithmically?
Do you have hidden hearing loss that shows up on an audiogram or hidden hearing loss?
do you mean "that shows up on an extended frequency audiogram"?
 
Is the current rate (I.e. past few decades and up until the present) of scientific advances medicine better expressed linearly, or logarithmically?

do you mean "that shows up on an extended frequency audiogram"?

Yeah, like my ENT says that I don't have any hearing loss, but then another audiologist said at higher frequencies than the ones that are tested I do. Most people who I have talked to have said that their distortion happens if they have hearing loss that shows up on a regular audiogram.

I think @Contrast has this issue.
 
Yeah, like my ENT says that I don't have any hearing loss, but then another audiologist said at higher frequencies than the ones that are tested I do. Most people who I have talked to have said that their distortion happens if they have hearing loss that shows up on a regular audiogram.

I think @Contrast has this issue.
I show hearing loss on an extended audiogram, but I also have distortions throughout the entire frequency spectrum. Did I answer your question lol
 
"Hidden Hearing" loss really sums up the laziness of it all when u go to ENT and Audiologists.
You are so right.
Why are they so behind. I hate it.
Well, here's a hypothesis. As of yet the only "treatments" for hearing loss are prostheses: hearing aids or cochlear implants. These don't provide optimal hearing anyway, so there's little direct impetus to conduct any "advanced" (smh) testing. But, if regenerative medicine as applied to hearing becomes a reality and natural hearing can be restored, perhaps diagnostics will be pulled upward along as well.
This is an optimistic outlook.

Also, I'm not saying they shouldn't do the best they can even now. They definitely should, and it's disgusting that they don't. I'm must saying that perhaps things will improve if regenerative medicine comes into play.
Maybe.
 
Did you people see the personal testimonials for Neuromod/MuteButton 2?
What did you think?

https://www.neuromoddevices.com/stories
I listened to Niall talk about tinnitus for several minutes then at the end he said during the trials his T went from 10 to 3. My perception of tinnitus also fluctuates. I didn't care to listen to the others assuming they put their best patient testimony first.
 
anyone else watch those mutebutton videos?

even if this is legit, why didn't they just make a battery powered tongue zapper that plugs into a smart phone and an app for it?

I smell doo. Greedy nasty doo.
 
do you guys actually have lives, that we don't ever congegate as a team and discuss research and come up with ideas to influence the culture on the forum.

all you bastards do is drop lame image text memes that pretty much make MPP look bad.
 

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