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Take the red pill or blue pill John.
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Take the red pill or blue pill John.
RonnieCarzatto
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- Feb 01 2017
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- Mild head injury maybe... but who knows...
I'm late to this but I started browsing MPP from page 1. It's like a crazy novel. Some really great stuff back there for some good laughs.
Here? It's hard to ideologically kill the enemy, just make them go underground. Took them long enough to come out of the woodwork.
Yah...well some posts are just so sleazy...the logical fallacies are subtle, insidious.
Ted Talks are made to be short because stupid people have short attention spans but they feel smart after watching a Ted Talk because they talk briefly about intelligent things.
Ted Talks are grooming a generation of unintelligent people to think that they are intelligent.
That being said I respectfully disagree with the gating mechanism theory. We should focus on healing the damage to the auditory system, which we are, thankfully. For other cases of tinnitus like those caused by damage to the auditory cortex that cannot be solved by regenerating the auditory nerves and or the cochlea, going after the gating mechanism in the limbic may be an attractive option, if this theory is correct.
Ted Talks are grooming a generation of unintelligent people to think that they are intelligent.
That being said I respectfully disagree with the gating mechanism theory. We should focus on healing the damage to the auditory system, which we are, thankfully. For other cases of tinnitus like those caused by damage to the auditory cortex that cannot be solved by regenerating the auditory nerves and or the cochlea, going after the gating mechanism in the limbic may be an attractive option, if this theory is correct.
I'm still around. In case you guys haven't seen I have been doing a lot behind the scenes working on the Tinnitus Talk Podcast. We have done a couple of interviews already for the podcast and are working through getting them ready. Surprisingly it takes a lot of work so my MPP/ meme time has mainly been spent working on getting that done. I do miss making memes and shit posting and will get back into it once the works for the podcast levels out.
I hope you guys are doing well. I do think about how you guys are doing often and haven't forgotten any of you.
Just listened to the podcast Jack, well done.
You sound perfectly normal to me Jack,
but I've always been.....
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First off, Dr. Rauschecker is a neuroscientist. His research has to do with basic brain mechanisms especially neuroplasticity. He is saying that tinnitus is caused not only by damage to the ear/cochlea/hair cells in the periphery but also by damage to the limbic system which would normally functions as a gating mechanism. Others are working on regenerative mechanisms for hair cells, he is working on understanding the mechanisms at work in the brain, specifically limbic system.
John, perhaps now you can understand why just regenerating hair cells may not altogether fix tinnitus. The limbic system needs to be fixed too. Worth noting is that Dr. Rauschecker says a damaged limbic system is causing the mood disorders that often accompany tinnitus and that depression and anxiety are not just a patient's reaction to tinnitus the way Jastrebof and others would have us believe.
If you think it would be worth having a podcast about hair cell regeneration, then why don't you suggest it to Markku, Hazel and Jack.
Take care, TC
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a gateway mechanism "possibly due to a damaged limbic system"
not everyone with a lost limb has phantom limb syndrome.
Which implies that their gating system is still intact if the same mechanisms are involved. Some believe that chronic pain and chronic tinnitus share common ground.
Here's an article out of one of my old New Scientist magazines:
Once you've read that, read this:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4587397/
Is anyone else very discouraged by the fact that Dr. Rauschecker had not ever heard of bimodal stimulation, and by what he said about the current state of tinnitus research in general.
I am very, very discouraged right now. And I think it's accurate.
(Jack Straw and Hazel this is in no way a negative comment on your excellent work)
I am very, very discouraged right now. And I think it's accurate.
(Jack Straw and Hazel this is in no way a negative comment on your excellent work)
You know Manny, I worked in clinical research for 27 years. When I developed tinnitus and started trying to understand the state of tinnitus research I suspected that things were not working very well. Now, I feel like many of my suspicions have been validated. However, things like Tinnitus Talk, Danny's fund and this podcast series and being able to interact with David Stockdale are all positive steps in the right direction. But the tinnitus community needs to wake up and be more vocal as a united front. At this point, I am of the opinion that the American Tinnitus Association has an inflated view of themselves and are actually doing very little on our behalf. We need to do something- we can be signing petitions, writing letters and emails to NIDCD and NIH, to medical societies, getting Veterans Associations and AARP to lobby for us and probably other things which are escaping me right now.
Take care, TC
the vast majority of tinnitus/hearing loss sufferers are NPC's.
I was talking to people on reddit that had pain hyperacusis and have never heard of Charles Liberman, Hidden hearing loss, research from Mass Eye and Ear. Just that there ENT told them "no hearing loss" despite a history of noise exposure.
We are in dark times and we have to dig our way out of dark times, stay woke.
How long does it take for ENT's and audiologist to keep up to date with research about hearing loss, tinnitus and noise induced pain?
Funny you should mention this. I was thinking we might suggest to @Markku that Dr. Liberman might be someone to approach to be a podcast guest. Hyperacusis is often overlooked but there are people who struggle immensely with it. He could also talk about hidden hearing loss, hair cell regeneration and ongoing research at the Lauer Tinnitus Research Center.
It used to be said that it takes 10-15 years for research results to make its way down the pyramid of influence and reach clinicians in a format they can use. I have to believe that some aspects can be quicker with todays methods of communication, but things like a 12 month clinical trial, if needed, can't be done in less than 12 months. -TC
I'm sick and tired of people sourcing the way it use to be, before the Intertnet. The internet allows information to travel much faster.
Now knowledge is publicly available and it is a choice not to know about hidden hearing loss, pain hyperacusis, and medicine on the horizon.
Now knowledge is publicly available and it is a choice not to know about hidden hearing loss, pain hyperacusis, and medicine on the horizon.
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