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It's funny how that animated character looks exactly like I would imagine Contrast to look like
 
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Mister Muso said:
But if it helps people who are suffering, that's a good thing, isn't it?
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Spot on Mr Muso, It does not matter what Religion you are, what you believe in, people's faith in Religion can see them face many life challenges for the better.

Stories, yes they say that about Religion, It could be said that CBT is just stories that you tell yourself to try and alter your mindset. The main thing is if something works for you even if it is waving dead fish above your head we should be happy for that person.
 
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TRT is a cult and those who preach it are cult leaders. Does it help? Why not, at least a placebo effect.

Christianity is far more powerful than CBT regarding tinnitus coping abilities. I don't like TRT/CBT because I'm already a relgious person who depends on my faith to cope with tinnitus.

Another reason why I don't like CBT/TRT, it's preached as a cure. But it's nothing more than a false religion used to cope with suffering (I don't care what you think about Christianity).

If you want to learn psychology to deal with your problems great but don't confuse this with science (psychiatry yes, psychology no). I'm interested in a legitimate cure.

Christianity doesn't mascarade in the guise of science and neither should CBT/TRT.

I'm plagued with severe tinnitus. I cope with this suffering through Christianity. I pray for a science based cure (legitimate, not imaginary).

CBT/TRT guru's have forgotten the definition of "cure" because they're busy making money lots of money (from spiritually weak people). Imho

It's okay to be spiritually weak, all you need to do is practice Christianity. It won't cure your tinnitus but will teach you the hidden value of suffering. As well as how to cope with life's struggles or how to avoid them.

TRT/CBT is the atheist alternative to religion. At best they may be helpful within a Christian context.

I don't care what anyone thinks regarding Christianity except for what I think and what other believers think.

Atheists are the stupid ones due to blindness. They believe the universes were once contained in a single pin point of energy but don't believe in God. To me this is hilarious. What do you think the super condensed energy is, nothingness?
 
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85dB T said:
TRT is a cult and those who preach it are cult leaders. Does it help? Why not, at least a placebo effect.

Christianity is far more powerful than CBT regarding tinnitus coping abilities. I don't like TRT/CBT because I'm already a religious person who depends on my faith to cope with tinnitus.

Another reason why I don't like CBT/TRT, it's preached as a cure. But it's nothing more than a false religion used to cope with suffering (I don't care what you think about Christianity).

If you want to learn psychology to deal with your problems great but don't confuse this with science (psychiatry yes, psychology no). I'm interested in a legitimate cure.

Christianity doesn't mascarade in the guise of science and neither should CBT/TRT.

I'm plagued with severe tinnitus. I cope with this suffering through Christianity. I pray for a science based cure (legitimate, not imaginary).

CBT/TRT guru's have forgotten the definition of "cure" because they're busy making money lots of money (from spiritually weak people). Imho

It's okay to be spiritually weak, all you need to do is practice Christianity. It won't cure your tinnitus but will teach you the hidden value of suffering. As well as how to cope with life's struggles or how to avoid them.

TRT/CBT is the atheist alternative to religion. At best they may be helpful within a Christian context.

I don't care what anyone thinks regarding Christianity except for what I think and what other believers think.

Atheists are the stupid ones due to blindness. They believe the universes were once contained in a single pin point of energy but don't believe in God. To me this is hilarious. What do you think the super condensed energy is, nothingness?
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This is a support forum, so as I see it, nobody has any right to bring others down and yet I see this happening a lot on here regardless of what the subject matter is. People should be free to explore all available avenues in order to find some kind of relief/refuge as we are all unique and what works for one will not work for all. There are well over 4000 religions which may help people in their daily lives, which is perfectly fine, but one also has to note that religion is very geographically, historically, and socioeconomically oriented. Most people are born into a religion based on the point in time they arrive(d) into the world and the country/area they live(d) in. We also know that as districts gain wealth, faith often diminishes, meaning that the most religious places are usually the poorest ones, and religion tends to increase when times get hard. Many have stated that this is a direct correlation to people wanting and needing a coping mechanism during tough times, and having a spiritual belief is a good way of achieving this. Whatever god one chooses is up to the individual, but in most instances, the choice is already made for them because nearly everyone follows their native and historically relevant religion.

You say atheists are stupid due to blindness and I disagree. It was once said on the Joe Rogan podcast that everyone who practices a religion is an atheist. They are just an atheist in regards to Zeus, or Apollo, or the many other hundreds of gods.

I don't like to enter religious debates as I know there's no point as we are all entitled to our beliefs, but in this instance, I wanted to reply.

I'm in no way the president of the CBT fan club, but I also don't see the value in saying it won't work for anyone. Remember, all one needs is a book and a lot of discipline to try it out. This is a support forum, after all, so taking things off the table completely that may help someone - even just a little bit - seems counterintuitive. I could say the same about religion. If religion helps people get through hard times then no one should criticise that either. We are all equal.

If we want to see progress regarding tinnitus awareness and curative research then you all need to be more vocal and active away from this forum. Start some local fundraisers or get involved on the political spectrum.

You could all collectively write to MPs/Senators, institutions that give out grants, universities, newspapers, etc. Spending all day on here is such a wasted opportunity for an organised group. I've spent many hours doing everything I've mentioned above to try and raise the profile of tinnitus as that's the only way it will happen. When I asked for help and assistance from people here because of the major press activity that was surrounding The Wildhearts, nobody stepped up, and it's in these instances that I am utterly dumbfounded. It was a huge opportunity to make a statement but it seems people would rather post memes here instead and then moan about the lack of awareness. We have to take every opportunity that comes our way to raise the profile of tinnitus in the real world. MPP could have stormed Facebook and left so many messages that I'm certain a story would have been made about it in the mainstream press. The anonymity it seems is more important, but you can't have it both ways (although nobody would know who was leaving the messages as we don't know who most of you are).

You all need to decide what is more important, curing tinnitus or hiding your identity because prioritising anonymity limits what you can all achieve as a group. If you want to do some proper advocacy work then I suggest you organise yourselves into an effective group with a plan of action and then do some real-world campaigns.
 
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threefirefour said:
You started the CBT defense thread where all the CBT fanboys go. You kind of are.
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I wanted to know what people's motives and opinions were from more of a neutral perspective as the CBT stigma is a bit out of control. I was purely interested in what people had to say about it. I'm pro-support and pro-cure.

I often leave out of frustration at the lack of effort that goes into helping with campaigns for improvement. Whenever I come back after a break, I find everyone is still going round in circles on MPP; still doing nothing to objectively help which I'll never understand. I tried many times to get people involved on a more serious level but nobody ever wanted to. It's much easier to criticise from the sidelines then it is to work towards improving the situation.
 
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Ed209 said:
I wanted to know what people's motives and opinions were from more of a neutral perspective as the CBT stigma is a bit out of control. I was purely interested in what people had to say about it. I'm pro-support and pro-cure.

I often leave out of frustration at the lack of effort that goes into helping with campaigns for improvement. Whenever I come back after a break, I find everyone is still going round in circles on MPP; still doing nothing to objectively help which I'll never understand. I tried many times to get people involved on a more serious level but nobody ever wanted to. It's much easier to criticise from the sidelines then it is to work towards improving the situation.
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Yeah fair enough. We are doing some stuff to help. Contrast (who is by far doing the most) is taking down scammers, and as a collective we're trying to round up other forums to get in on the front lines of research. There's other ways to help too besides funding. We can and should:

-get involved in experimental trials
-get more people interested in research
-share TT podcasts on other forums
-Share research news on other forums

Those are all good ways to help, and with the exeption of people like JohnAdams who've done all four, most of us do this stuff shy of experimental trials.
 
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threefirefour said:
Yeah fair enough. We are doing some stuff to help. Contrast (who is by far doing the most) is taking down scammers, and as a collective, we're trying to round up other forums to get in on the front lines of research. There's other ways to help too besides funding. We can and should:

-get involved in experimental trials
-get more people interested in research
-share TT podcasts on other forums
-Share research news on other forums

Those are all good ways to help, and with the exeption of people like JohnAdams who've done all four, most of us do this stuff shy of experimental trials.
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Yea, fair play to Contrast for going after the scammers and to John Adams for trying something that's experimental. I've said this in the past in both cases and this point still stands.

Now imagine if hundreds of you got involved and were organised and coordinated in your efforts. The possibilities are monumental, both politically and from a fundraising/awareness perspective.
 
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threefirefour said:
Yeah fair enough. We are doing some stuff to help. Contrast (who is by far doing the most) is taking down scammers, and as a collective we're trying to round up other forums to get in on the front lines of research. There's other ways to help too besides funding. We can and should:

-get involved in experimental trials
-get more people interested in research
-share TT podcasts on other forums
-Share research news on other forums

Those are all good ways to help, and with the exeption of people like JohnAdams who've done all four, most of us do this stuff shy of experimental trials.
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We also need to do what we can to prevent people from getting this horrible condition in the first place. I'm doing my part by trying to make headphones that don't go beyond 80 dB. I even have potential manufactures. This could end up being a huge failure, but I am going to do my best to make sure it's not. I don't want people to go through what I did. I find it ridiculous that there aren't that many options for adults and teenagers to have safe volume limited headphones.

We need to do our best raising awareness on how horrible tinnitus is so others are more careful and don't do anything stupid that make them end up like us. Not enough is being done.
 
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Artemis2K said:
We also need to do what we can to prevent people from getting this horrible condition in the first place. I'm doing my part by trying to make headphones that don't go beyond 80 dB. I even have potential manufactures. This could end up being a huge failure, but I am going to do my best to make sure it's not. I don't want people to go through what I did. I find it ridiculous that there aren't that many options for adults and teenagers to have safe volume limited headphones.

We need to do our best raising awareness on how horrible tinnitus is so others are more careful and don't do anything stupid that make them end up like us. Not enough is being done.
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amen
 
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Artemis2K said:
We also need to do what we can to prevent people from getting this horrible condition in the first place. I'm doing my part by trying to make headphones that don't go beyond 80 dB. I even have potential manufactures. This could end up being a huge failure, but I am going to do my best to make sure it's not. I don't want people to go through what I did. I find it ridiculous that there aren't that many options for adults and teenagers to have safe volume limited headphones.

We need to do our best raising awareness on how horrible tinnitus is so others are more careful and don't do anything stupid that make them end up like us. Not enough is being done.
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My wife actively engages in awareness of tinnitus and ear-related problems relating to noise in secondary School (high school).

Good on you for taking such an initiative.
 
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Who would like to contribute towards a sponsored ad campaign via social media? We could collectively write and agree upon a message that's intended to instigate a discussion on the matter - to attract comments and shares in other words. If we can get a pool of money together - it would only take a small amount from each of us - we could put this plan into action and promote some awareness.

We can ask @Markku or @Hazel about the timing of such a project, if we get enough interest, so as not to conflict with any other campaigns. I would happily put a Facebook page together as a place to run the sponsored content from.

Would this interest any of you?

Or it could even be driven from Tinnitus Hub's main page providing there's enough interest to fund some sponsored and engaging content.
 
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Ed209 said:
Who would like to contribute towards a sponsored ad campaign via social media? We could collectively write and agree upon a message that's intended to instigate a discussion on the matter - to attract comments and shares in other words. If we can get a pool of money together - it would only take a small amount from each of us - we could put this plan into action and promote some awareness.

We can ask @Markku or @Hazel about the timing of such a project, if we get enough interest, so as not to conflict with any other campaigns. I would happily put a Facebook page together as a place to run the sponsored content from.

Would this interest any of you?
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That's a really interesting idea.
 
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Ed209 said:
Who would like to contribute towards a sponsored ad campaign via social media? We could collectively write and agree upon a message that's intended to instigate a discussion on the matter - to attract comments and shares in other words. If we can get a pool of money together - it would only take a small amount from each of us - we could put this plan into action and promote some awareness.

We can ask @Markku or @Hazel about the timing of such a project, if we get enough interest, so as not to conflict with any other campaigns. I would happily put a Facebook page together as a place to run the sponsored content from.

Would this interest any of you?
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I'm up for it! Even though my mind is pretty blank when it comes to ideas.

I feel we need to come together and do something to honour Allan's legacy though.
 
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Ed209 said:
Who would like to contribute towards a sponsored ad campaign via social media? We could collectively write and agree upon a message that's intended to instigate a discussion on the matter - to attract comments and shares in other words. If we can get a pool of money together - it would only take a small amount from each of us - we could put this plan into action and promote some awareness.
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Whatever is done, might be nice to time it with the Tinnitus Week.

@TheDanishGirl, I might have something to announce with regards to Allan and honoring his legacy soon. :huganimation:
 

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