New Low-Bass Tone. Please Help.
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Please please please don't abandon your family. Trust me I thought I was done for read my original post. Please respond. If you need to vent I'll talk with you. It gets easier.
Paulie87
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Mate, I appreciate what you are doing, but read your original posts in this thread. You talked about how this was destroying your life.
You were lucky it went away. What would you have done had it stayed? You know the bass noises like your head is hearing a car with bass music playing driving past. It's pulsating though not with my heartbeat, my head feels like it vibrates.
It's no way to live.
Spikes sometimes happen so if this noise was recent I would give it some time and see what happens. Also a good idea to get a specialist to check and see if anything might be causing it such as medication or TMJD. Even getting off medication can cause temporary tinnitus.
Since you have Meniere's have you checked how Dana White got it fixed with PRP? It's a treatment in Europe but it's not approved in the US.
Start sending out emails to see if a doctor would perform a surgery to destroy/remove the hyperactive regions of the brain which could fix the tinnitus. Bottom line is that I don't think you've tried everything yet as far as treatment goes.
Since you have Meniere's have you checked how Dana White got it fixed with PRP? It's a treatment in Europe but it's not approved in the US.
Start sending out emails to see if a doctor would perform a surgery to destroy/remove the hyperactive regions of the brain which could fix the tinnitus. Bottom line is that I don't think you've tried everything yet as far as treatment goes.
It was destroying my life. But it hasn't gone away. I as I write this it's booming. You're right, it sucks the biggest balls in the world but listen, it can get better. Do you have any meds? Maybe rivitrol or Ativan to take the edge off? Please respond. Don't go we don't know what is on the other side. And you have family on this side. My wife and I struggle to even conceive and you have a baby. Please.
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Paulie87
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I'm still here. I'm a pussy.
I love my baby so much. We struggled to concieve. We did IVF we wanted our baby so much. Then the night he is born after I felt like the happiest man alive, this booming starts.
It went away after a few weeks and then came back after a few more weeks. My wife keeps talking to me about holidays etc. and I just don't know how I can ever enjoy anything again with this booming. It's hard to mask completely as it's so low frequency like you described.
All I keep seeing is a life where I'm a nuisance and my son is ashamed of his dad. I don't see how I can contribute to anything. I work, but that's about all I do. I'm a 29 year old pathetic loser.
You're not a pussy. T is a monster bitch and we are strong to get through it.
I'm not trying to blow smoke up your ass. And I've had a hell of a bad day. I've got so many different tones ive lost count. But the bass tone can get better . Mine goes through phases but it's always there. Bad right now like a subwoofer. I'm there for you if you need to talk but am in the states (in case I fall asleep) its 1:30 am here.
Wake up tomorrow and hug your son.
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@Paulie87
I am in Australia and so is @DebInAustralia.
Please reach out to us if you need to talk.
I had a low vibrating hum at the start of my tinnitus (only thing that would mask it was the engine noise of my car). It's gone, but been replaced by high pitched hissing.
You don't know what the future holds for your tinnitus, but it does include your wife and son, you know that for sure. Two very good reasons to live.
I know this because my children are my reason to fight this thing. They need their mother.
Your son needs his father. Believe me, you have got so much to look forward to with your son. Watching them grow and learn is the most amazing thing ever. The first time he says 'daddy', the hugs, his excitement when you come home from work.....
You can do this.
I do know @glynis had some success with Nortryptaline with her low drone. Might be something to consider as things are really bad for you.
I am in Australia and so is @DebInAustralia.
Please reach out to us if you need to talk.
I had a low vibrating hum at the start of my tinnitus (only thing that would mask it was the engine noise of my car). It's gone, but been replaced by high pitched hissing.
You don't know what the future holds for your tinnitus, but it does include your wife and son, you know that for sure. Two very good reasons to live.
I know this because my children are my reason to fight this thing. They need their mother.
Your son needs his father. Believe me, you have got so much to look forward to with your son. Watching them grow and learn is the most amazing thing ever. The first time he says 'daddy', the hugs, his excitement when you come home from work.....
You can do this.
I do know @glynis had some success with Nortryptaline with her low drone. Might be something to consider as things are really bad for you.
Paulie,
I know what you mean when you talk about the low frequency tinnitus being a physical sensation. My car idling sound comes and goes. Last night it was quite pronounced, and even though it's not that loud, it really grabbed my attention. I can feel my head vibrate. I know exactly how that goes.
I thought it must have meant i have hearing loss in my lower frequencies, but according to a recent audio, my hearing 'down there' is excellent...
So many of us experiencing this type of t. wonder why?
I know what you mean when you talk about the low frequency tinnitus being a physical sensation. My car idling sound comes and goes. Last night it was quite pronounced, and even though it's not that loud, it really grabbed my attention. I can feel my head vibrate. I know exactly how that goes.
I thought it must have meant i have hearing loss in my lower frequencies, but according to a recent audio, my hearing 'down there' is excellent...
So many of us experiencing this type of t. wonder why?
Paulie87
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Thanks, that is really sweet. I hope you are coping ok. I love my son and wife so much, I just wonder if I'm going to feel tortured forever, or whether this will simply become an irritation that isn't taking over my life.
Yeah, I don't know that it's unbelievably loud, it's just it is very low frequency and therefore difficult to be masked in environmental sounds and is therefore very intrusive. I can hear it in most places.
Do any of you take anti depressants by any chance? I take Lexapro and a couple of people who hear this have mentioned they also take lexapro.
@Paulie87
You habituated before, so I bet you can do it again. I know this is a different tone (and if I had to choose one, I'd take the high pitch hiss), but you've got to keep trying.
honestly, kids are the best. My 2 year old son is always hugging and kissing me, and right now, my 8 month old little girl has fallen asleep in my arms after a big day out, her little snores are so cute.
So much to love, screw tinnitus.
I take 7.5mg Mirtazapine - have never taken Lexapro and was on no meds when I got my low noise.
You habituated before, so I bet you can do it again. I know this is a different tone (and if I had to choose one, I'd take the high pitch hiss), but you've got to keep trying.
honestly, kids are the best. My 2 year old son is always hugging and kissing me, and right now, my 8 month old little girl has fallen asleep in my arms after a big day out, her little snores are so cute.
So much to love, screw tinnitus.
I take 7.5mg Mirtazapine - have never taken Lexapro and was on no meds when I got my low noise.
Paulie, have you looked into issues with your bp, anaemia, hypo/hyperthryoidism, cardiac bruits, mumurs?
Paulie87
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Apparently I have intercranial hypertension. One of my Otologists believes this could be leading to this issue, the other one thinks some sort of hydrops.
I am seeing a neurologist on Monday about the intercranial hypertension.
thats interesting ...
i used to suffer with debilitating headaches in my 30s.
as part of a work up, a neuro suspected ICH. a diagnostic LP was borderline. VP shunting was discussed. I shook my head at this idea. Head MRI : partially empty sella (something pressing on pituitary gland, flattening it out so it cant be seen). Headaches disappeared in my late 40s, but since the onset of my t, am left with whooshing sound and head pressure when i lean forward and sometimes when i roll from side to side in bed or when i sit up suddenly. Have kept an eye on an innocent systolic mumur for years, under the care of a cardio, who has no idea about all of this.
Any of this ringing any bells for you? (pardon the pun!)
i used to suffer with debilitating headaches in my 30s.
as part of a work up, a neuro suspected ICH. a diagnostic LP was borderline. VP shunting was discussed. I shook my head at this idea. Head MRI : partially empty sella (something pressing on pituitary gland, flattening it out so it cant be seen). Headaches disappeared in my late 40s, but since the onset of my t, am left with whooshing sound and head pressure when i lean forward and sometimes when i roll from side to side in bed or when i sit up suddenly. Have kept an eye on an innocent systolic mumur for years, under the care of a cardio, who has no idea about all of this.
Any of this ringing any bells for you? (pardon the pun!)
Without a diagnostic LP, at this point, it is only a clinical suspicion. Who is your neuro?
I saw Dr John Laidlaw in Parkville
I saw Dr John Laidlaw in Parkville
Paulie87
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I'm not sure actually. My otologist is Professor Fagan and the neurologist is nearby at St Vincents Hospital in Sydney.
I am borderline Super Canal. The bone is very thin, however they said they would not operate due to no serious vestibular symptoms like vertigo and the risks associated with surgery.
oh sorry, i thought you were in melbourne.
anyway, let us know how your consult with the neuro goes. lets hope you get some definitive answers. x
anyway, let us know how your consult with the neuro goes. lets hope you get some definitive answers. x
Paulie87
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And yes it does ring a lot of bells. One otologist (Not professor Fagan) just lumped me with atypical menieres. The Otologist who did this is a very good doctor, but others seem to think menieres becomes an easy diagnosis when they just don't know what is causing low frequency tinnitus and some sound sensitivity.
@Paulie87
One thing I can tell you about this low one is that if you get upset it's going to get super loud. If you can calm down, it will quiet some. I wouldn't think too much about whether or not you can habituate to the sound. Seems like everyone has said that it comes and goes so it won't stay around forever. Instead, try to focus on figuring out what is wrong and then try to fix it. Hang in there. You can do this.
One thing I can tell you about this low one is that if you get upset it's going to get super loud. If you can calm down, it will quiet some. I wouldn't think too much about whether or not you can habituate to the sound. Seems like everyone has said that it comes and goes so it won't stay around forever. Instead, try to focus on figuring out what is wrong and then try to fix it. Hang in there. You can do this.
I very much agree with @Jkph75; when we focus on a tone it gets amped up. The brain thinks it's really important, especially if there's also adrenaline involved (and fear/panic does release adrenaline,) so it tunes in more to that sound. It's then louder, but that's not the "real" baseline.
If you're humming all day to try to mask the sound, that means you're thinking about your T all day. That's the opposite of what you'd want to do to habituate. It can be hard to de-escalate from obsessively thinking about the T, but there are formal TRT therapies, and masking devices that a lot of people have found to be helpful.
I would recommend seeing a therapist ASAP, and start having regular sessions. Explain that you had called the lifeline (I'm so glad you did!) and go from there. It's okay to try out a few therapists until you find one that you click with, but see someone. A good therapist will educate themselves on T (maybe even browsing this forum in their off time,) and they will help you with your anxiety and depression. It's not just the T tone that matters, it's our reaction to it, and how that affects us as emotional creatures.
If you're humming all day to try to mask the sound, that means you're thinking about your T all day. That's the opposite of what you'd want to do to habituate. It can be hard to de-escalate from obsessively thinking about the T, but there are formal TRT therapies, and masking devices that a lot of people have found to be helpful.
I would recommend seeing a therapist ASAP, and start having regular sessions. Explain that you had called the lifeline (I'm so glad you did!) and go from there. It's okay to try out a few therapists until you find one that you click with, but see someone. A good therapist will educate themselves on T (maybe even browsing this forum in their off time,) and they will help you with your anxiety and depression. It's not just the T tone that matters, it's our reaction to it, and how that affects us as emotional creatures.
Hi everyone. I hope that everyone is in a good place at the moment. I understand what everyone is talking about. On top of my loud EEE noise, my vibrational sounds started this past early winter and hasn't stopped since, so I unfortunately assume it's permanent now too. I think it's everyone's fear that we won't be able to habituate to it, cause it's one of my biggest fears at the moment. I used to ask my wife and kids if there's a truck or car sitting idling outside or if the house is making a vibrating noise, or if the dryer in the basement is running, but no such luck. It's depressing and frustrating at the same time. I appreciate everyone sharing their experience and realizing I'm not alone. I can only say is to take it moment by moment and try not to look at the long term. I wish everyone a pleasant night.
Paulie87
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I'll say, I have had a good few hours today where I did not focus on the tinnitus. I went out for a beach walk with my wife and son and to some local markets and a nice cafe and did not notice the tinnitus most of the time. I put my babies feet in the beautiful ocean water for the first time in his life. It was really special. I'm lucky I live in a beautiful area just 20 minutes walk to some of the best beaches in the world. The water really soothes me.
Now that I'm home and having an afternoon nap the tinnitus is back in the forefront again, but it's nice to know I'm not completely disabled and still have a life. I think getting out of the house and actually living is very important to take your mind off this condition.
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Now that I'm home and having an afternoon nap the tinnitus is back in the forefront again, but it's nice to know I'm not completely disabled and still have a life. I think getting out of the house and actually living is very important to take your mind off this condition.
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I've had a low him since July 16. There have been periods when it has gone away for a few hours. Bliss. Stress definitely amplifies all my sounds. Walking in nature and a focus on work drives perception of tinnitus away for a while. Still part of me can't believe this is even happening. Noises in your head 24/7/365?
That's beautiful! What a great place to live. Could you actually hear it when you were out? I noticed that mine will stop when I am in a good amount of noise. It's not being masked it just stops. The more I am home, the louder it is. Someone else wrote about this in another thread. Then, today I was sick so I'm just sitting around and that part of my tinnitus stopped for a while and was super quiet when it was there. So strange. I have 2 little ones, so I literally never sit. When I do lately, it's out of control. Now I'm not moving and it stops. Maybe it is because I didn't eat much. Who knows. This is a strange one for sure.
Did you learn to live with it ? Im in exactly the same place. It's killing me ! Can't go on a moment longer like this. Help. Meant seriously.
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