New Stem Cell Transplantation Method Restores Damaged Auditory Pathways

[bill 112]

Many Otorhinolaryngologist are even not aware of recent scientific interpretations about inner ear wounds which however are public.

I couldn't agree more,it amazes me that the patient knows about this line of research when the doctor doesn't,maybe the world hasn't fully accepted the concept yet,I don't really know.

 

[attheedgeofscience]

To be honest I can't remember,I seen this video when I first developed T and started digging to find more,all I remember is seeing depressing comments,some hopeful but the best part were disheartening

Do you think that might be because the folks - presumably on a public board - were regurgitating the same hearsay information over-and-over again?

but I just don't buy into these clinics(just an opinion)I don't think enough is known for them to be viable as of yet.

Do you think it is possible that autoimmune hearing loss is a special case of hearing loss (and which might be more receptive to a stem cell treatment)?

Lastly... I wonder how many people on a board such as TinnitusTalk have actually bothered to take the following steps:

• Contact Chloe Sohl
• Contact RNL Bio

If I were to inform myself about a certain matter - of a complex nature and pertaining to something very specific - would I inquire about the nature of that from someone down at the local corner shop, or, would I try to contact the people somehow involved with the matter?

 

[bill 112]

Do you think that might be because the folks - presumably on a public board - were regurgitating the same hearsay information over-and-over again?


Do you think it is possible that autoimmune hearing loss is a special case of hearing loss (and which might be more receptive to a stem cell treatment)?

Lastly... I wonder how many people on a board such as TinnitusTalk have actually bothered to take the following steps:

• Contact Chloe Sohl
• Contact RNL Bio

If I were to inform myself about a certain matter - of a complex nature and pertaining to something very specific - would I inquire about the nature of that from someone down at the local corner shop, or, would I try to contact the people somehow involved with the matter?

Ask people at a corner shop?If that's what you think I do your very much mistaken.I regularly email researchers and the likes,I had a very nice conversation only the other day with Bryan Pollard at Hyperacusis research.I am by no means as knowledgable on the Stemcell subject as you and many others here,what I stated above was merely a mentioning of something I read and nothing more,I never said it was fact and agreed these statements should be taken with a pinch of salt,but so should the claims of such hospitals.

 

[attheedgeofscience]

Ask people at a corner shop?If that's what you think I do your very much mistaken.I regularly email researchers and the likes,I had a very nice conversation only the other day with Bryan Pollard at Hyperacusis research.

Okay... no problem, but ½-hour ago you wrote the following...

Not doctors or anything like that,to be honest when you mention Stemcells to doctors they look at you like your living in a parallel universe.

...which didn't leave me with the impression that you had looked into it with medical professionals or scientists (re: "Not doctors or anything like that..."). Agree?

In addition, you could just have mentioned that you had spoken with Bryan Pollard (when I asked you)...

I wonder who those people might be...?

...and to which you responded:

To be honest I can't remember

 

[bill 112]

Okay... no problem, but ½-hour ago you wrote the following...

...which didn't leave me with the impression that you had looked into it with medical professionals or scientists (re: "Not doctors or anything like that..."). Agree?

In addition, you could just have mentioned that you had spoken with Bryan Pollard (when I asked you)...

...and to which you responded:

No I completely agree,I misinterpreted what you meant by"who might these people be"

I do regularly contact researchers in different fields,not on a regular basis but if they're happy to respond to me then I'm happy to ask questions,although I don't want to bombard these people as I'm sure they have better things to be doing than responding to me I'm sure we'll agree.Im just a naturally sceptical person who requires hard proof of anything before I start to buy into it,I take what I read and hear with a pinch of salt.As far as the Stemcell hospitals are concerned I don't buy into it personally,you have first hand experience of these hospitals and your view may be different,I just haven't been convinced yet.

 

[lymebite]

Lastly... I wonder how many people on a board such as TinnitusTalk have actually bothered to take the following steps:

• Contact Chloe Sohl
• Contact RNL Bio

I wondered if you know how Chloe is doing today? Did her improvement stick as a lasting cure? I am happy to email her directly but thought I would ask here first. There was a very interesting article in the Baltimore Sun in February 2016 about stem cells for eyes:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/health/bs-hs-stem-cells-for-eyes-20160201-story.html

Between Chloe's experience and your experience I thought it could make for a compelling similar article about stem cells for hearing, possible I could identify a reporter for a leading publication who would be interested in writing such a story.

 

[attheedgeofscience]

I wondered if you know how Chloe is doing today?

I was in touch with her some 7 months ago. She is fine.

 

[Beste]

Bump this thread.

I'm not good at finding news about old threads so I wonder if is there any update to this new?

 

[Mario martz]

So i guess!! this could be the biggest solution out there?
having this kind of treatment is way better...
than dangerous anti-epileptics, than having needles in the middle ear.

 

[Beste]

My question is... how sure are we that restoring hearing will make T go away? Is it possible hearing could be restored but that the T could stay? T seems to be pretty ingrained in the brain! What a let down that would be!

We have alread 2 members who had reduction in their Ts even with regular stem cell therapy for tinnitus. So this is most likely this therapy will work.

 

[Mario martz]

we need to keep digging this

 

[jdjd09]

Ok, real talk, where do I need to go to actually get these injections done? It sounds like they tested these on humans at one point or another, instead of just rat models.

Anyone? I'm guessing it's not going to be posted about in USA much seeing it is studies being done in Japan (I notice less news on here about studies being done in other countries that aren't English speaking for example).

 

[jdjd09]

Please stop rating my questions everyone. I would just like an answer honestly. No offense. But, someone around here must know.

 

[Mario martz]

Please stop rating my questions everyone. I would just like an answer honestly. No offense. But, someone around here must know.

I Think we need to contact them!

 

[lymebite]

where do I need to go to actually get these injections done?

@jdjd09

Stem Cells 21 offers stem cell therapy for inner ear disorders:

http://stemcells21.com/stem-cell-treatments/hearing-loss-stem-cell-treatment-2/

You can follow them on Facebook too:

https://www.facebook.com/stemcells21

 

[Reinier]

Please stop rating my questions everyone. I would just like an answer honestly. No offense. But, someone around here must know.

Surely you also follow this thread?: https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/my-trip-to-bangkok-stem-cell-treatment-comments.1891/

 

[Ears Hurt]

Has anyone been to the Stem Cell Rejuvenation Center in Phoenix, Arizona?

 

[Mario martz]

Anyone has an idea, of how can we reach them??

 

[whiskeykonteq]

Anyone has an idea, of how can we reach them??

I got in touch 2 months ago. I asked them about NIHL tinnitus stem cells therapy and this is what they told me:

Most of the time tinnitus caused by noise exposure damages the hair cells in your ear. The stem cells that we use are not able to become hair cells so if this is the case then our treatment would be unlikely to help. If your tinnitus is caused by auditory nerve damage (vestibular-cochlear nerve) then we may be able to help, but the chances would still be low. I hope this helps to address your questions. If you need anything else, please let us know.

Best Regards,
Josh

Stem Cell Rejuvenation Center, LLC.
Peace Wellness Center, PLLC.
7600 N. 15th Street Ste. 102
Phoenix, AZ 85020
(602) 439-0000(602) 439-0000 office
(602) 439-0021 fax

 

[Mario martz]

I got in touch 2 months ago. I asked them about NIHL tinnitus stem cells therapy and this is what they told me:

Most of the time tinnitus caused by noise exposure damages the hair cells in your ear. The stem cells that we use are not able to become hair cells so if this is the case then our treatment would be unlikely to help. If your tinnitus is caused by auditory nerve damage (vestibular-cochlear nerve) then we may be able to help, but the chances would still be low. I hope this helps to address your questions. If you need anything else, please let us know.

Best Regards,
Josh

Stem Cell Rejuvenation Center, LLC.
Peace Wellness Center, PLLC.
7600 N. 15th Street Ste. 102
Phoenix, AZ 85020
(602) 439-0000(602) 439-0000 office
(602) 439-0021 fax

Hey Whiskeykonteq,
thanks for you reply, but i was talking about kyoto university!!!
these are the one who are more likely to help.
cause their study reveals the huge potencial to help the whole auditory system

 

[Mario martz]

I got in touch 2 months ago. I asked them about NIHL tinnitus stem cells therapy and this is what they told me:

Most of the time tinnitus caused by noise exposure damages the hair cells in your ear. The stem cells that we use are not able to become hair cells so if this is the case then our treatment would be unlikely to help. If your tinnitus is caused by auditory nerve damage (vestibular-cochlear nerve) then we may be able to help, but the chances would still be low. I hope this helps to address your questions. If you need anything else, please let us know.

Best Regards,
Josh

Stem Cell Rejuvenation Center, LLC.
Peace Wellness Center, PLLC.
7600 N. 15th Street Ste. 102
Phoenix, AZ 85020
(602) 439-0000(602) 439-0000 office
(602) 439-0021 fax

http://ata.org/news/news/new-stem-cell-transplantation-method-restores-damaged-auditory-pathways

 

[Beste]

Yes. I also want to contact with them. I'm also ready to be a rat in their labs.

 

[Zora]

I think that if you have noise induced T, the chances to succeed with stem cells treatment is low to zero. In the other thread attheedgeofscience said that 6 people had the stem cell treatment, 1 of them had noise induced T. For 5 the T got better for the 1 person with noise induced T it didnt.
So congratulations to us @Mario martz

 

[Mario martz]

I think that if you have noise induced T, the chances to succeed with stem cells treatment is low to zero. In the other thread attheedgeofscience said that 6 people had the stem cell treatment, 1 of them had noise induced T. For 5 the T got better for the 1 person with noise induced T it didnt.
So congratulations to us @Mario martz

Hey Zora!!
i havent heard or read about that...i slightly read about that poster experience with steam cells.
this article...
http://ata.org/news/news/new-stem-cell-transplantation-method-restores-damaged-auditory-pathways
was pulblished a few months ago, and havent been tested on humans.
so there is still not a word on wich types of tinnitus it works or not works.
but to be honest it looks promising for all types of tinnitus or nerve damage.

 

[Mario martz]

Hey Zora!!
i havent heard or read about that...i slightly read about that poster experience with steam cells.
this article...
http://ata.org/news/news/new-stem-cell-transplantation-method-restores-damaged-auditory-pathways
was pulblished a few months ago, and havent been tested on humans.
so there is still not a word on wich types of tinnitus it works or not works.
but to be honest it looks promising for all types of tinnitus or nerve damage.

and still... 1 case is a very small percent...
this study states a complete different approach than previous steam cells transplantations.

 

[Mario martz]

I think that if you have noise induced T, the chances to succeed with stem cells treatment is low to zero. In the other thread attheedgeofscience said that 6 people had the stem cell treatment, 1 of them had noise induced T. For 5 the T got better for the 1 person with noise induced T it didnt.
So congratulations to us @Mario martz

Besides... attheedgeofsilence got this treatment in 2013,
this new approach that possible "restores damaged auditory pathways" was just discovered last year! so there is a lot to be seen yet, lets wait

 

[whiskeykonteq]

Hey Whiskeykonteq,
thanks for you reply, but i was talking about kyoto university!!!
these are the one who are more likely to help.
cause their study reveals the huge potencial to help the whole auditory system

I see, but this is only study on mouses http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4491783/ - meaning some time will pass when (and if) this goes into clinical treatments :-( There is no one at Kyoto that you can contact that can help (they are researchers working on animal models ... they probably never saw tinnitus patient).

Cheers

 

[Mario martz]

I see, but this is only study on mouses http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4491783/ - meaning some time will pass when (and if) this goes into clinical treatments :-( There is no one at Kyoto that you can contact that can help (they are researchers working on animal models ... they probably never saw tinnitus patient).

Cheers

hahah yes thats true.
but thats why we need to contact them!
im not saying its a quick fix around the corner, its a possible solution to many, many, many millions of suffers.
every days passing and all i can see is people suffering more and more.
even if i didnt have tinnitus myself, i would still very pissed off, about the suffering, and how we are a lot,but still dont united to ask for help. its time to send emails, make phones calls and drive them nuts hahaha

 

[Nick Pyzik]

I think that if you have noise induced T, the chances to succeed with stem cells treatment is low to zero. In the other thread attheedgeofscience said that 6 people had the stem cell treatment, 1 of them had noise induced T. For 5 the T got better for the 1 person with noise induced T it didnt.
So congratulations to us @Mario martz

It depends on how the stem cells are transplanted onto the damaged area and what kind of stem cells are used or what they are converted into. From the sounds of it, the adult stem cells used in these non-FDA approved therapies are not the same as the stem cells used in studies put on by researchers in the field of neurology/biological stem cells. For the sensory cells that make up our ability to process and clearly hear frequencies picked up by the hair cells of each cochlea, the stem cells must be converted in a way to specifically become the spiral ganglion neurons that make up nerve fibers (efferent/afferent) of the auditory nerve. Check out the Kyoto University study that Mario posted. They gave proof that transplanting these specific sensory stem cells onto the glial scars of damaged auditory areas between the brain and inner ear helped restore connections. This has to be one of best ways to efficiently stop tinnitus and restore ones hearing.

 

[Ears Hurt]

@Mario martz ive been doing that... I think I call or e-mail at least 3 stem cell clinics a day. I want them to know there is a market for us!!!! We still have a voice and I intend for us to be heard.