Have you even read her papers? In any case, there's a pretty obvious reason why she only included people with somatic tinnitus in her studies. To the extent of our knowledge, the device will help these people the most.
Read her papers, and the papers she quotes in her papers. After doing so, like I have, you can formulate an adequate opinion on this topic.
I don't think anybody is under the impression it will treat the cause, are they? We want the symptom of ringing, whooshing etc to go away. The cause of those issues won't go away.
I am possibly on this rare occasion going to disagree here. Whilst I'm not 100% sure, the evidence seems quite strong. It's also the first area of the brain that receives input (or lack of it in our case) from the auditory nerve. The Shore Lab were able to control for animals with and without tinnitus and identify neural correlates. The treatment clearly works over the sham across the 2 groups in 2 clinical trials.
What attitude? If you've actually read her papers, you obviously wouldn't be sharing opinions like that on this thread...? Can you provide any specific arguments as to why you disagree with her theories?
I think where questions have arisen here of whether or not a person would need to use the device long-term/permanent suggest a lack of clarity about what it may or may not be doing at the root level. But sure, in the bigger picture it probably doesn't matter whether we're talking cure or treatment at this point as long as it works on the symptoms.
To be honest, I agree. Right now the evidence from Susan Shore's trials (at least the stuff we've been able to see) appears strong. I guess I'm jaded by having never found a satisfactory answer as to why some people can butcher their ears and never get tinnitus, whilst others go about living like monks and fall foul of it. There's something else going on. I don't believe science has answered that question yet but when it does I think we could actually cure tinnitus and not just reduce the sound (although I'll take a reduction any day).
Why do some poeple smoke for 50 years and never get lung cancer, while other do?
This is exactly the point. Coincidentally I think Thanos has given us important clues as to the mechanism of cause of tinnitus (and perhaps even other maladies); the "tap" if you will.
I suppose. In any case, most of Shore's theories have to do with somatic crossfire with the auditory system. Which isn't the case for everyone.
The main difference is that Lenire is an under-researched gimmick/scam that was built on what fumes remained from Hubert Lim's research before it got shut down and overtaken by Neuroscam, which prioritize profits and marketing to fool as many sufferers as possible into buying their overpriced Bluetooth toy.
They both work on different nerves too, don't they? The Shore device works on the nerve that people do that tapping thing on the back of their head and can achieve silence for maybe a minute or two.
Yes, this is my understanding of the research.
Are you in Germany? I like the way Berthold Langguth communicates as a researcher. He is ranked as the no. 1 tinnitus researcher, although this really means just the number of papers published, not significant findings or treatments.
Yes, I am located in Germany.
So if my tinnitus gets louder when I clench my teeth or extend out my jaw, does that mean it is somatic? I have noise-induced tinnitus in one ear. I seem to have difficulty getting an answer on what exactly IS somatic tinnitus.
Yes, it does. Somatic tinnitus is the one that you can change with neck, head or jaw movements.
Almost there!!! Can anyone tell what % of those treated had a significant clinical response? I'm ready to believe but I want to be realistic as to my chances.
Sharp eyes! Incredible news! All that remains now is FDA approval (happening sooner rather than later) and commercialization!
What does tinnitus spectrum mean?The Study said:
They do quite rightly point out that tinnitus reduction is only clinically significant in the treatment group and not in the control group. I've only read through it once but they do seem rather thorough.
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