MemberBy then maybe FX-322 may already be out. I think Susan Shore is going to continue to delay it and when regenerative hearing medicine comes out she will stop the trials.
I feel like she is just milking the money and wasting it.
New University of Michigan Tinnitus Discovery — Signal Timing
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I feel like she is just milking the money and wasting it.
- May 9, 2017
- 929
- Tinnitus Since
- 2013
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Noise-induced
End of 2021? So I'm guessing it's unlikely that it'll be launched in 2022. Maybe 2023, 2024? So at least another three years of no improvements. I don't think I'll be able to endure that.
I appreciate her and her team. I understand she's being thorough and doing it right, but every time she gives us a glimpse of a timeline it seems 6 months longer than the last estimate.
- Jul 8, 2017
- 711
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/2017
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Neck/Jaw misalignment
Why appreciate her? She's probably making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. If someone held a gun to her head this device would have already been out and working. I guess she's been working on this device for 20 years.
- Dec 18, 2015
- 618
- 45
- Tinnitus Since
- 03/2015
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Noise induced, loud rock concert
I am not sure what she meant by 2021, is it study completion or maybe FDA approval or even commercialization. The best case scenario is that she plans to finalize the study in 2020, get an FDA approval mid of 2021 and launch end of 2021.2021????
And the waiting continues... sigh.
- Jan 5, 2020
- 90
- Tinnitus Since
- 2011, Spike 2019, Spike 2020
- Cause of Tinnitus
- 1e Loud Music, 2e earwax irrigation, 3e padel tennis
I think we have better chance of FX-322 getting Compassionate Use (Expanded Access) in the meantime.
- Dec 18, 2015
- 618
- 45
- Tinnitus Since
- 03/2015
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Noise induced, loud rock concert
The thing is that if tinnitus is generated by cochlear synaptopathy then FX-322 may not help since it does not regenerate synapses. Shore's device might help in such cases or one of synaptopathy drugs (HEI pill, OTO-413, PIPE-505).
- Jan 5, 2020
- 90
- Tinnitus Since
- 2011, Spike 2019, Spike 2020
- Cause of Tinnitus
- 1e Loud Music, 2e earwax irrigation, 3e padel tennis
- Feb 11, 2019
- 801
- Tinnitus Since
- 01/2014
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Headcold/Flu
- Feb 11, 2019
- 801
- Tinnitus Since
- 01/2014
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Headcold/Flu
Let me briefly elaborate further:
It has been two and one half years since our Chicago Tribune in their Health and Wellness Section had a major article about how already a substantial amount of research and trial application on Shore's device had been completed.
If this operates on at least a partially relational equivalence and methodology as Lenire, then why have they been able to make this available to the consumer for almost a year whereas Shore's might not be available until 2022?
It has been two and one half years since our Chicago Tribune in their Health and Wellness Section had a major article about how already a substantial amount of research and trial application on Shore's device had been completed.
If this operates on at least a partially relational equivalence and methodology as Lenire, then why have they been able to make this available to the consumer for almost a year whereas Shore's might not be available until 2022?
I will always support anyone interested in helping us. In the meantime, we can hope Lenire can keep updating and improving its system and maybe Minnesota or any other company may launch another alternative...
Let's hope Susan Shore can accelerate things up!
Let's hope Susan Shore can accelerate things up!
Hi all,
So this Susan Shore Thing has apparently been building up for quite some time and people seem to place more value in her (hopefully) upcoming device than in Neuromod's Lenire device. However I do not seem to find any research that backs up the fact the Susan Shore's device would be any better than Neuromod's. Additionally Susan's Shore's research seems to be shrouded in vagueness and delayed deadlines.
Can someone tell me where this bias towards Susan Shore is coming from? Is it based on actual scientific evidence, or just us sufferers clinging to the fact that the next thing coming out will be the actual cure?
So this Susan Shore Thing has apparently been building up for quite some time and people seem to place more value in her (hopefully) upcoming device than in Neuromod's Lenire device. However I do not seem to find any research that backs up the fact the Susan Shore's device would be any better than Neuromod's. Additionally Susan's Shore's research seems to be shrouded in vagueness and delayed deadlines.
Can someone tell me where this bias towards Susan Shore is coming from? Is it based on actual scientific evidence, or just us sufferers clinging to the fact that the next thing coming out will be the actual cure?
I think it's less of a validation of Shore and more of a plan B because of Lenire disappointment.
The published results from the first Shore study seemed much better/more promising to me. 20 people were in the study and had an average 12 DB decrease in their T loudness. 2 people had T eliminated. No reports of any worsenings. The study was only 4 weeks of treatment. Pretty impressive results albeit a small sample size.
- Mar 16, 2017
- 102
- Tinnitus Since
- 10/15 got worse 11/16
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Earbuds, inner ear infection NHL and high frequency loss
i know this was aleady posted from 2013. I would suspect it could take 8-10 years, until 2021 to 2023. She is super smart and this team is going to change the game. I have hope!
I wrote a short email to Dr. Shore to clarify the information that @Mentos has already got from her about the date of 2021. She replied
"The 2nd trial should be done in the fall of 2020. I can't say exactly when commercialization will happen."
So we can expect to see her results by the end of this year and maybe try the device late 2021 or early 2022.
"The 2nd trial should be done in the fall of 2020. I can't say exactly when commercialization will happen."
So we can expect to see her results by the end of this year and maybe try the device late 2021 or early 2022.
- Jul 8, 2019
- 1,157
- Tinnitus Since
- 1991
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Loud Music / family history
I'm wondering whether it might be worth contacting the U-Mich office of tech transfer to try and get some idea of what the timeline to market can potentially be. Having said that, I'm not even sure there's much point until the trial data is made public.
Apparently studies are like art--never finished, only abandoned. You have to know when you've reached the point of diminishing returns. It's a mindset, sort of like trying to cut a perfect circle out of a piece of paper.
mikki_
Member
- Aug 31, 2019
- 73
- Tinnitus Since
- 07/2019
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Stress? / High frequency hearing loss? / Who knows?
She is a professor. They know shit about commercialization. Trust me I know. I hope a company like Neuromod buys the results. It will be much faster that way.
davidmp
Member
- Jan 7, 2020
- 23
- Tinnitus Since
- 07/2019
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Hearing Loss / Possible Trauma in concert
I have made my mind: this is a life long battle, and have little hope for a solution that comes from anywhere in the coming years. I will have to fight it alone. I am not pessimistic, just optimistic with common sense.
Thanks for the video but at the same time she's just taking her own sweet time at the expense of all our suffering, if this thing really does work.
- Mar 16, 2017
- 102
- Tinnitus Since
- 10/15 got worse 11/16
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Earbuds, inner ear infection NHL and high frequency loss
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