Poll: Recovery Time from Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccine Induced Tinnitus Spike

[Wrfortiscue]

I would caution everyone to take this survey with a grain of salt. There are a lot of Anti-Vaxxers on here who will click the worst option (Never recovered) just to push their agenda.

In the other thread where people share their experiences actually getting the vax only a small % didn't recover.

Or maybe they haven't recovered lol.

 

[Wrfortiscue]

The European Medication Agency has launched a review recognizing J&J can cause tinnitus and vertigo among others, probably temporary, so I think this can help tinnitus sufferers choose another vaccine.

All of them potentially can cause side effects

 

[Jack Straw]

Or maybe they haven't recovered lol.

I found one! lol

Yes, a small minority will have gotten tinnitus from the vaccine. A very small minority like less than .01% of the total population. The amount of people who got tinnitus from the vaccine is a lot higher. It is a pick your poison situation. I assume you are a smart man, maybe I am wrong, but which would would you choose? A vaccine that has a .01% chance or a virus that has a 5%+ chance even though it is probably higher for the virus?

All of them potentially can cause side effects

Every single drug known to man has side effects and ever single drug known to man has a chance to cause death. I heard that wearing tin foil on your head doesn't have side effects. It also protects against aliens.

 

[Tinker Bell]

Your audiologist offers hearing tests that high? I wish mine did!

I had higher frequency testing once, and it confirmed what we already expected. Some university hospitals do upper hearing testing because they need to check cancer patients for signs of loss. Many cancer medications are ototoxic and they will watch the pattern of loss in the higher frequencies and stop treatment before it dips into frequencies needed for speech.

 

[Wrfortiscue]

I found one! lol

Yes, a small minority will have gotten tinnitus from the vaccine. A very small minority like less than .01% of the total population. The amount of people who got tinnitus from the vaccine is a lot higher. It is a pick your poison situation. I assume you are a smart man, maybe I am wrong, but which would would you choose? A vaccine that has a .01% chance or a virus that has a 5%+ chance even though it is probably higher for the virus?

Every single drug known to man has side effects and ever single drug known to man has a chance to cause death. I heard that wearing tin foil on your head doesn't have side effects. It also protects against aliens.

Hey you do you... Anyone can feel free to get the shot. I'm suffering from it as many others are. Yeah, statistically it's a low percentage that are affected but if I was a healthy athletic person with ear problems I would stay away from vaccines.

There is still no data that says someone is more protected from COVID-19-associated tinnitus with the shot vs. not having it.

Several folks I saw had COVID-19 and were fine, months later got the jab and, boom, tinnitus. Talk about bad luck.

 

[Brian P]

You have to have a death wish to get this shot with preexisting tinnitus.

 

[Jack Straw]

You have to have a death wish to get this shot with preexisting tinnitus.

Significantly higher chance of getting tinnitus or worsening from COVID-19 than the vax...

 

[Brian P]

Significantly higher chance of getting tinnitus or worsening from COVID-19 than the vax...

It's already at almost 1% on VAERS and no one reports on there really. The real number is probably 10-15%.

 

[Wrfortiscue]

Significantly higher chance of getting tinnitus or worsening from COVID-19 than the vax...

That's just an assumption... there's no true data yet to back that claim. Not saying you're wrong, but COVID-19 is just random.

 

[Matchbox]

I would caution everyone to take this survey with a grain of salt. There are a lot of Anti-Vaxxers on here who will click the worst option (Never recovered) just to push their agenda.

In the other thread where people share their experiences actually getting the vax only a small % didn't recover.

Lol wtf. Yes this is where they'd go to exercise their agenda. A tinnitus poll.

Maybe we should make a poll asking who's died post vax with the option "my death has yet to resolve" just to weed them out?

 

[Matchbox]

Hey you do you... Anyone can feel free to get the shot. I'm suffering from it as many others are. Yeah, statistically it's a low percentage that are affected but if I was a healthy athletic person with ear problems I would stay away from vaccines.

There is still no data that says someone is more protected from COVID-19-associated tinnitus with the shot vs. not having it.

Several folks I saw had COVID-19 and were fine, months later got the jab and, boom, tinnitus. Talk about bad luck.

COVID-19 destroys cells and makes copies of itself. It doesn't present live cells with S protein's for antibodies to attack.

There is absolutely a difference, though for most unremarkable. I get that mRNA is faster, but a regular vax with a protein shell is much safer imo. No cells are getting attacked, and the proteins are attached to something utterly useless and still presented to T cells to take back to the lymph node antibody farm.

 

[Matchbox]

This poll is garbage.

 

[GoatSheep]

My issues resolved completely within roughly 2 months. First dose of Pfizer had no effect, second did me in. Took like a day for it to hit me after the shot. I didn't get a tinnitus spike though. Hyperacusis sound sensitivity ramped up, facial pressure sensations increased, TTTS flared up and some pain. Seems in line with an inflammatory response in my case.

 

[Tinker Bell]

It's already at almost 1% on VAERS and no one reports on there really. The real number is probably 10-15%.

That's one percent of VAERS reports, not one percent of the total vaccinated population. Many of these reports indicate that the tinnitus was temporary, sometimes even fleeting or experienced in conjunction with briefly feeling faint after vaccination.

An estimated 15-20 percent of the U.S. population has tinnitus and it's considered one of the most common health problems. If only one percent of people who fill out a VAERS report have tinnitus, that may actually be lower than the typical number of new tinnitus cases per year.

 

[Wrfortiscue]

This poll is garbage.

Everything is garbage lol.

 

[Jack Straw]

Lol wtf. Yes this is where they'd go to exercise their agenda. A tinnitus poll.

Maybe we should make a poll asking who's died post vax with the option "my death has yet to resolve" just to weed them out?

It's funny you think the anti vax community on Tinnitus Talk wouldn't report negative outcomes in a poll for the vaccine.

That's just an assumption... there's no true data yet to back that claim. Not saying you're wrong, but COVID-19 is just random.

It's already at almost 1% on VAERS and no one reports on there really. The real number is probably 10-15%.

Hearing Loss-a Camouflaged Manifestation of COVID 19 Infection

In this small study 31% of people had auditory issues after getting COVID-19. 39% of those people experienced tinnitus.

Do not respond to this message with anecdotal reports. Only use studies done by reputable sources.

That's one percent of VAERS reports, not one percent of the total vaccinated population. Many of these reports indicate that the tinnitus was temporary, sometimes even fleeting or experienced in conjunction with briefly feeling faint after vaccination.

An estimated 15-20 percent of the U.S. population has tinnitus and it's considered one of the most common health problems. If only one percent of people who fill out a VAERS report have tinnitus, that may actually be lower than the typical number of new tinnitus cases per year.

This is a good answer to this!

 

[Damocles]

I would caution everyone to take this survey with a grain of salt. There are a lot of Anti-Vaxxers on here

Okay, so that's Me, @Lane, @PeteJ, @Wrfortiscue and @Brian P; none of whom are actually "anti-vaxxers" (except in the case of these mRNA/adenovirus vaccines which are utilising (to date) an unstable technology that has been rushed through testing and approval. Two of whom have actually suffered adverse reactions. Which leaves just the first three... yeah, that's "a lot".

who will click the worst option (Never recovered) just to push their agenda.

Damnit guys! which one of you told him about our agenda!?

No one's supposed to know about our agenda, and the fact that we're gonna be up to our necks in beanie babies when all these suckers don't take their vaccines! ↶（｀∇´）

In the other thread where people share their experiences actually getting the vax only a small % didn't recover.

What "other thread"?

It's funny you think the anti vax community on Tinnitus Talk wouldn't report negative outcomes in a poll for the vaccine.

This has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on Tinnitus Talk.

For once, just this once, could the staff please make public, who has voted in this poll, just so we can all reclaim some of the brain cells we have lost from reading this comment which takes the term "conspiracy theory" to a whole new level.

Hearing Loss-a Camouflaged Manifestation of COVID 19 Infection

In this small study 31% of people had auditory issues after getting COVID-19. 39% of those people experienced tinnitus.

Do not respond to this message with anecdotal reports. Only use studies done by reputable sources.

From the study you linked:

A total of 100 patients were included in the study. Among these 58 were male patients and 42 were female patients. There were 23 patients in the age group of 20–30 years, 31 in 31–40 years and 28 patients in 41–50 years age and 18 patients between 50 and 60 years.Of the 100 patients, 27 patients had hypertension, 6 patients had history of ischemic heart disease. Only one patient had history of using propranolol. 22 patients in total received remedesivir injections for their symptoms.
31 among the 100 patients had ear symptoms, the most common being tinnitus (39%) and the least complained symptom as giddiness (10%) (Fig. 1).

22 of the 100 were given remdesivir:

Don't forget ototoxicity during the SARS-CoV-2 (Covid-19) pandemic! - PubMed (nih.gov)

Aim of this communication is to remind clinical professionals to be aware of ototoxic side effects of several specific drugs proposed for the treatment of the new virus SARS-CoV-2 (Covid-19). In particular, chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, as well as antiviral drugs such as remdesivir, favipiravir and lopinavir can all present potential ototoxic side effects. The data in the literature do not offer specific information on their potential synergetic effects nor on their interactions.

Is hearing loss a symptom of coronovirus? (starkey.com)

Since then, treatments for coronavirus have continued to evolve and emerge. While data on the side effects of these treatments obviously lags, there is mounting evidence that coronavirus infections — whether from treatments or the virus itself — can effect our hearing and can lead to long-term hearing loss [1].

Finally, some recently developed antiviral medications that have shown promising results in coronavirus treatment have the potential for ototoxicity (having a toxic effect on the ear or its nerve). Ototoxicity is a well-known cause of hearing loss.

Remdesivir and favipiravir are both antiviral adenosine nucleotide analogues, and ototoxicity and the onset of tinnitus have been reported as possible side effects of this class of medicines in previous literature. Remdesivir — paired with steroid treatment — is currently the most common early treatment regimen for coronavirus infections in patients with upper respiratory distress.

From this we can surmise that 22 of the 31 people that suffered hearing loss are not a reliable indicator of COVID-19's effect on the ear. So we're left with 9 people that can credibly attribute any hearing loss to COVID-19 in this study.

That means, in worst case scenario (factoring in the previous percentage which still included the use of remdesivir) 39% of 9 people developed tinnitus; leaving us with a grand total of: 4 out of 100 people developing tinnitus from COVID-19. 4%

Reminds me of something... oh yeah!

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/posts/617132/

That's one percent of VAERS reports, not one percent of the total vaccinated population. Many of these reports indicate that the tinnitus was temporary, sometimes even fleeting or experienced in conjunction with briefly feeling faint after vaccination.

An estimated 15-20 percent of the U.S. population has tinnitus and it's considered one of the most common health problems. If only one percent of people who fill out a VAERS report have tinnitus, that may actually be lower than the typical number of new tinnitus cases per year.

This is a good answer to this!

VAERS is an incredibly unreliable source of information, hence why the mainstream media refers to clinical trials and controlled studies instead of relying on a system similar to this when disseminating COVID-19 hype and sensationalism.

Manipulating VAERS Data through Underreporting | Armstrong Economics

The Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) was designed for medical providers to report any complications with the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines, which would seem to be a valuable tool considering the effects are widely unknown. However, there is no mandate for medical care providers to report side effects to the system.

Whistleblower and Physician Assistant Deborah Conrad, who has practiced medicine for 17 years, came out and said that medical workers are being dissuaded from reporting vaccination side effects.

Are the Scientific Journals Censoring the Science? Part 1: The Removal of the Report on Myocarditis Adverse Events in VAERS, by Elsevier and Current Problems in Cardiology (trialsitenews.com)

It's a well known fact that approximately only 1% of adverse events are reported to VAERS (Electronic Support for Public Health–Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (ESP:VAERS) (openvaers.com)) and that's if the reaction occurs on the day of administration. Once you're past the 2 week mark and a reaction manifests itself, most people are no longer sure if the vaccine is related, and so never register a report.

It's very easy to dismiss people who have legitimate concerns about these "vaccines", because unlike with COVID-19, the efforts to record deaths and injury related to them are pathetic.

Just think about how many controlled studies there are into: COVID-19 wrecking people's health vs COVID-19 vaccines wrecking people's health, and you'll see it's a landslide.

What's funny though, is even though VAERS is underreporting and we're unable to get a true picture of the devastation the "vaccines" are causing, it's still monumentally greater than anything we've ever seen with any other drug/medicine/vaccine before in history...

 

[Jack Straw]

Okay, so that's Me, @Lane, @PeteJ, @Wrfortiscue and @Brian P; none of whom are actually "anti-vaxxers" (except in the case of these mRNA/adenovirus vaccines which are utilising (to date) an unstable technology that has been rushed through testing and approval. Two of whom have actually suffered adverse reactions. Which leaves just the first three... yeah, that's "a lot".

Damnit guys! which one of you told him about our agenda!?

No one's supposed to know about our agenda, and the fact that we're gonna be up to our necks in beanie babies when all these suckers don't take their vaccines! ↶（｀∇´）

What "other thread"?

This has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on Tinnitus Talk.

For once, just this once, could the staff please make public, who has voted in this poll, just so we can all reclaim some of the brain cells we have lost from reading this comment which takes the term "conspiracy theory" to a whole new level.

From the study you linked:

22 of the 100 were given remdesivir:

Don't forget ototoxicity during the SARS-CoV-2 (Covid-19) pandemic! - PubMed (nih.gov)

Is hearing loss a symptom of coronovirus? (starkey.com)


From this we can surmise that 22 of the 31 people that suffered hearing loss are not a reliable indicator of COVID-19's effect on the ear. So we're left with 9 people that can credibly attribute any hearing loss to COVID-19 in this study.

That means, in worst case scenario (factoring in the previous percentage which still included the use of remdesivir) 39% of 9 people developed tinnitus; leaving us with a grand total of: 4 out of 100 people developing tinnitus from COVID-19. 4%

Reminds me of something... oh yeah!

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/posts/617132/


VAERS is an incredibly unreliable source of information, hence why the mainstream media refers to clinical trials and controlled studies instead of relying on a system similar to this when disseminating COVID-19 hype and sensationalism.

Manipulating VAERS Data through Underreporting | Armstrong Economics

Are the Scientific Journals Censoring the Science? Part 1: The Removal of the Report on Myocarditis Adverse Events in VAERS, by Elsevier and Current Problems in Cardiology (trialsitenews.com)

It's a well known fact that approximately only 1% of adverse events are reported to VAERS (Electronic Support for Public Health–Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (ESP:VAERS) (openvaers.com)) and that's if the reaction occurs on the day of administration. Once you're past the 2 week mark and a reaction manifests itself, most people are no longer sure if the vaccine is related, and so never register a report.

It's very easy to dismiss people who have legitimate concerns about these "vaccines", because unlike with COVID-19, the efforts to record deaths and injury related to them are pathetic.

Just think about how many controlled studies there are into: COVID-19 wrecking people's health vs COVID-19 vaccines wrecking people's health, and you'll see it's a landslide.

What's funny though, is even though VAERS is underreporting and we're unable to get a true picture of the devastation the "vaccines" are causing, it's still monumentally greater than anything we've ever seen with any other drug/medicine/vaccine before in history...

Hey John,

Just because someone is given a drug doesn't mean we exclude them from the results. All drugs on some level are ototoxic and everyone took some form of drug when they had COVID-19 (Tylenol, Advil, etc) all of which are ototoxic.

Regardless, I still find it funny that someone who can navigate research like yourself is anti-vax (COVID-19 vax). What exactly is your reason?

 

[Brian P]

Hey John,

Just because someone is given a drug doesn't mean we exclude them from the results. All drugs on some level are ototoxic and everyone took some form of drug when they had COVID-19 (Tylenol, Advil, etc) all of which are ototoxic.

Regardless, I still find it funny that someone who can navigate research like yourself is anti-vax (COVID-19 vax). What exactly is your reason?

My life was ruined by the vaccine. Tinnitus isn't my only symptom either, but it's the most devastating. I know of one person who got tinnitus from COVID-19.

 

[Wrfortiscue]

Hey John,

Just because someone is given a drug doesn't mean we exclude them from the results. All drugs on some level are ototoxic and everyone took some form of drug when they had COVID-19 (Tylenol, Advil, etc) all of which are ototoxic.

Regardless, I still find it funny that someone who can navigate research like yourself is anti-vax (COVID-19 vax). What exactly is your reason?

He's nuts lol

Love you @Damocles.

 

[volsung37]

Part of the horror of this is how well I was feeling before the Pfizer jab. Now they tell us that this vax is not even very effective against Omicron. Just seems so pointless. I feel I have needlessly inflicted suffering on myself and indirectly on those around me who are worried by my mood change.

What has helped me in the past is immersion in nature. Walking in the mountains and by the sea. Apple cider vinegar in the mornings. Ginger, turmeric and black pepper drink in the evenings seems to calm the sounds a bit and allows sleep. And for me there will never be another COVID-19 jab!

 

[Robster]

3.5 weeks post first Pfizer dose and no real improvement. Annoying as I was beginning to cope well with my tinnitus before it got worse the day after my Pfizer shot. The real kicker was Omicron was discovered the day after I had the shot!

 

[Brian P]

3.5 weeks post first Pfizer dose and no real improvement. Annoying as I was beginning to cope well with my tinnitus before it got worse the day after my Pfizer shot. The real kicker was Omicron was discovered the day after I had the shot!

10 months still going strong. This is not what we signed up for!

 

[Matchbox]

10 months still going strong. This is not what we signed up for!

How are you doing Brian? Still kicking? Would love to touch base.

 

[Baker]

My tinnitus got a lot worse months ago due to having a cold for a week. It made my tinnitus a lot louder, and made it start sound more like a sharp tone sound. Though there are other sounds as well, as I usually also hear my heartbeat.

Then I got COVID-19 like a month ago, and that seems to have made my tinnitus even louder. It's really loud. Though sometimes, it will quiet down to where I can watch YouTube or watch TV without it really bothering me. I have no clue why that happens. I have high blood pressure. M maybe it's a blood pressure thing as to why sometimes it quiets down. But I didn't get the COVID-19 vaccine, so don't know how things would be if I had gotten it, i.e. worse, better, or the same.