Recent Chinese Study on Spontaneous Decrease in Tinnitus

[Aklara319]

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to flag a new Chinese study by Xiaoqiong Ding, Xiaoli Zhang, Zhichun Huang and Xu Feng of the Department of Otolaryngology, Head and Neck Surgery at Zhongda Hospital:

"The tinnitus recovery mechanism is different from the mechanism for hearing recovery. Many useful methods have been studied to protect the cochlea from damage [40, 41], and several effective methods have been researched to protect the cochlea in vitro [42–46]. However, there were limited methods to treat tinnitus [47]. Generally, sensorineural hearing loss tends to be stable within 3 months of onset, whereas there can be a spontaneous decrease in tinnitus within 5 years of onset. Tinnitus is the result of maladaptive plasticity within the auditory system [1, 14, 18]; the reversal of such changes in plasticity takes longer than the intrinsic cochlear repair mechanisms and may actually depend to some extent on them."

 

[Contrast]

Here's the paper for anyone wondering, I didn't read it yet, but I will.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5971248/


Regardless if my tinnitus fades or not I still want better hearing that's why I support biomedical research on repairing the inner ear, and I don't see why people on the forum would want to have shit hearing.

 

[Red]

I suppose I still have 4 more years before I'm out of the radar for this. Got to keep hanging on. I may often times not believe in hope but I really do want it.

 

[Ecip]

5 years, huh. So, yet again, there is hope. lol

 

[Don Tinny]

Good thread to read in those difficult days.

 

[John Meyers]

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to flag a new Chinese study by Xiaoqiong Ding, Xiaoli Zhang, Zhichun Huang and Xu Feng of the Department of Otolaryngology, Head and Neck Surgery at Zhongda Hospital:

"The tinnitus recovery mechanism is different from the mechanism for hearing recovery. Many useful methods have been studied to protect the cochlea from damage [40, 41], and several effective methods have been researched to protect the cochlea in vitro [42–46]. However, there were limited methods to treat tinnitus [47]. Generally, sensorineural hearing loss tends to be stable within 3 months of onset, whereas there can be a spontaneous decrease in tinnitus within 5 years of onset. Tinnitus is the result of maladaptive plasticity within the auditory system [1, 14, 18]; the reversal of such changes in plasticity takes longer than the intrinsic cochlear repair mechanisms and may actually depend to some extent on them."

Try saying that name 10x in a row! Ha ha...

I was hoping for 3 years until that came and went.

I can deal with 5 years and appreciate this article because it provides hope. -- Hope allows me to forget my tinnitus at times during the day which is huge.

In the meantime, I continue to try different things to lower my tinnitus intensity.

 

[JohnAdams]

Sometimes Chinese food spikes my tinnitus.

 

[Jack Straw]

Sometimes Chinese food spikes my tinnitus.

Might be due to MSG and you are having a increased glutamate reaction.

 

[John Meyers]

Sometimes Chinese food spikes my tinnitus.

Definitely. Especially when I drink a Coke with it.

Rather that Sweet and Sour which really gives me a spike, I now for Beef and Broccoli which seems to help.

 

[Telis]

I've posted a few times about my improvement after year 4. By 4.5 I had easily 50 percent decrease, (reason I stopped coming here), things got livable. After a resent acoustic injury, and some additional hearing loss I'm back to where I was before, screaming unmanageable tinnitus plus some.

I believe that my tinnitus will back off again, it's all that keeps me going. If I didn't have this hope, I would be dead. I think there is more improvement as a whole than people let on, it's more cool to talk about how youve mastered the beast mentally, rather than admitting things backed off.

 

[john paul]

Sometimes Chinese food spikes my tinnitus.

MSG, first time I got fleeting tinnitus was during a Chinese meal. Freaked me right out but funnily after that things seemed much quieter. Think it was all just relative though.

 

[Rafaa]

hopefully in 5 years or less the cure will be found and we won't have to hope for spontaneous reduction .

 

[elaine blakemoe]

Had awful tinnitus for over 9yrs, do beleive it came from a knock to my head..I am seeing a chiroptacter she is really helping,

Does anyone find WI FI and mobiles make their tinnitus worse, I have terrible sensitivities to these things

 

[JohnAdams]

hopefully in 5 years or less the cure will be found and we won't have to hope for spontaneous reduction .

The cure may already have been found. An amazing experiment is being conducted right now to restore hearing by regenerating our damaged cochleas. They are well into the experiment right now, we just have to wait for them to publish their findings.

 

[iGL0CK]

Had awful tinnitus for over 9yrs, do beleive it came from a knock to my head..I am seeing a chiroptacter she is really helping,

Does anyone find WI FI and mobiles make their tinnitus worse, I have terrible sensitivities to these things

WiFi affects my T and H but only old routers (i.e. 10yo TP-Link in my parents home). With my ASUS in home I haven't any problems.

 

[Rafaa]

The cure may already have been found. An amazing experiment is being conducted right now to restore hearing by regenerating our damaged cochleas. They are well into the experiment right now, we just have to wait for them to publish their findings.

I'm so desperate, I know about it. But nothing ever goes my way in life, everything I love gets torn from me. I cannot go the gym because of tinnitus. My artery is too close to my ear, it spikes my tinnitus. If it is successful it could be the one positive in my life that can turn my life around. Having already destroyed my 20s.

I have high pitched hearing loss. I'm hoping the reason Im picking up my pulse in my ear sometimes is also because of hearing loss. A cure would be a double cure for me possibly.

Reason I said 5 years, I'm talking after all the red tape, getting approved for the treatment, seeing the doctor etc. Hopefully a lot of that will be accelerated.

 

[JohnAdams]

I'm so desperate, I know about it. But nothing ever goes my way in life, everything I love gets torn from me. I cannot go the gym because of tinnitus. My artery is too close to my ear, it spikes my tinnitus. If it is successful it could be the one positive in my life that can turn my life around. Having already destroyed my 20s.

I have high pitched hearing loss. I'm hoping the reason Im picking up my pulse in my ear sometimes is also because of hearing loss. A cure would be a double cure for me possibly.

Reason I said 5 years, I'm talking after all the red tape, getting approved for the treatment, seeing the doctor etc. Hopefully a lot of that will be accelerated.

Yeah my entire life too has been a major pain in the ass. I also think, while it may be a while before we get cured, I do fully expect it to happen. Not just a cure for us, but perhaps most or all diseases.

 

[JohnAdams]

WiFi affects my T and H but only old routers (i.e. 10yo TP-Link in my parents home). With my ASUS in home I haven't any problems.

Really..... I find that hard to believe.

 

[AmericanJosh]

I've posted a few times about my improvement after year 4. By 4.5 I had easily 50 percent decrease, (reason I stopped coming here), things got livable. After a resent acoustic injury, and some additional hearing loss I'm back to where I was before, screaming unmanageable tinnitus plus some.

I believe that my tinnitus will back off again, it's all that keeps me going. If I didn't have this hope, I would be dead. I think there is more improvement as a whole than people let on, it's more cool to talk about how youve mastered the beast mentally, rather than admitting things backed off.

What additional acoustic injury did you have to get back to hell?

 

[Alue]

Might be due to MSG and you are having a increased glutamate reaction.

I've often wondered about this. Supposedly the glutamate from MSG does not cross the blood brain barrier. But if it did I could see it causing problems.

 

[iGL0CK]

Really..... I find that hard to believe.

It's not about company of course, old routers just sometimes makes quiet squeaking sound.
When I'm close (closer than 2-3 meters) I can hear it and my ears are screaming.

 

[Telis]

What additional acoustic injury did you have to get back to hell?

MRI

 

[JohnAdams]

MRI

Why tf are doctors so negligent? If I've learned anything from this forum. It is to avoid loud places no matter what.

 

[Telis]

Why tf are doctors so negligent? If I've learned anything from this forum. It is to avoid loud places no matter what.

Yeah 120db rattling through your skull in a small enclosed space is just not a good idea, even if you don't have tinnitus. Not sure what I was thinking.

 

[JohnAdams]

Yeah 120db rattling through your skull in a small enclosed space is just not a good idea, even if you don't have tinnitus. Not sure what I was thinking.

Our redemption from this may be at hand. We must endeavor, no matter how insignificant our efforts may seem, to remove every useless barrier to obtaining a cure for this that we can.

 

[iGL0CK]

Why tf are doctors so negligent? If I've learned anything from this forum. It is to avoid loud places no matter what.

When I was in hospital after my acoustic trauma, there were 2 people there with Tinnitus too (unknown reasons). They were older than me, one was 45 and another was 61. Both did MRI test at 2nd day in hospital.
Fortunately, I did not have one. Doctors probably didn't even think about possible sounds level.
I don't know MRI affected their T but they didn't say anything about it.

 

[JohnAdams]

When I was in hospital after my acoustic trauma, there were 2 people there with Tinnitus too (unknown reasons). They were older than me, one was 45 and another was 61. Both did MRI test at 2nd day in hospital.
Fortunately, I did not have one. Doctors probably didn't even think about possible sounds level.
I don't know MRI affected their T but they didn't say anything about it.

 

[Tom Cnyc]

I've posted a few times about my improvement after year 4. By 4.5 I had easily 50 percent decrease, (reason I stopped coming here), things got livable. After a resent acoustic injury, and some additional hearing loss I'm back to where I was before, screaming unmanageable tinnitus plus some.

I believe that my tinnitus will back off again, it's all that keeps me going. If I didn't have this hope, I would be dead. I think there is more improvement as a whole than people let on, it's more cool to talk about how youve mastered the beast mentally, rather than admitting things backed off.

This is awesome to read man. I know you had a real rough run at it. I agree that it backs off. It did for me. I'm actually back up a bit following strep throat that I didnt treat for like a week. About a week in my ear got really painful and T went thru the roof. within 2 days of amoxicillin it was 85% back to baseline, but that mild increase is lingering (been about a week now). I'm sure it'll fade within the month.

 

[TuxedoCat]

Searcb tinnitus at the Grantome website to see research funded by the US National Institute of Health

http://grantome.com/

 

[Telis]

This is awesome to read man. I know you had a real rough run at it. I agree that it backs off. It did for me. I'm actually back up a bit following strep throat that I didnt treat for like a week. About a week in my ear got really painful and T went thru the roof. within 2 days of amoxicillin it was 85% back to baseline, but that mild increase is lingering (been about a week now). I'm sure it'll fade within the month.

Yeah something healed, it took ages but it happened. I got too confident after that. If I were in that mri a couple of years ago, I would have stopped it. But having that improvement made me overly confident, now I'm screwed again, but worse. I don't know, maybe I threw my second chance away, but trying to keep positive. I can't even sleep this time around, I'm hoping it can't stay like this, it's not livable.