Road to Recovery from Loudness and Pain Hyperacusis (Noxacusis)

Hi, I've never really recovered since my last couple setbacks.

Around spring/summer last year, it took me a couple weeks of just not listening to music and not using drugs/drinking alcohol to get to a level where I didn't really notice the hyperacusis. I could also listen to music then and go outside without hearing protection.

I don't really know which setback was the final straw, but I am protecting all day long since November I believe.

There were periods when even when I was wearing hearing protection, I still perceived some sounds as too loud. I believe the key to improving is again avoiding all sounds that you feel uncomfortable about.

Even if that means wearing double hearing protection and being more careful with how you move. You have to be militant about it, but it is a sacrifice that is worth making. I've said it before but I highly advise getting custom earplugs made if you can stomach a trip to the hearing care professional. Double hearing protection is very helpful for trips to the supermarket and car rides.

Most importantly: Avoid all digital sounds!

About the new tinnitus tones popping up, that has happened to me too. Do you find any correlation between quality/quantity of sleep, your overall health and mood, and your tinnitus? For me, these factors are interrelated much more than they are for pain hyperacusis. I'd recommend finding ways to optimize your mental and physical health wherever possible.

In my opinion, it is also important to change your mindset. Complete recovery is probably not going to happen on its own. What we can achieve however is reach to a level where we can live in a relatively normal fashion, albeit wearing hearing protection as necessary. I used to be unable to talk without hurting my ears, now I can talk more freely with people, even though I wear hearing protection then. It is important to keep in mind that theoretically, the more you improve, the less sounds aggravate your hyperacusis, and the faster the recovery process should go (if major setbacks do not occur). Do you use any supplements or anything like that? I am taking those, I am visiting a chiropractor weekly, and Ive also brought a laser machine at home. This might speed up the recovery process.

This condition is absolutely the most brutal thing I have ever dealt with in my life. But you will get used to wearing hearing protection. Most of the time I'm not even conscious of it. I'd advise you not to focus on how you can use hearing protection less, but on how you can continue your day to day activities whilst wearing protection. This will give you more joy and happiness than trying to scale down it. We just have to last it out until a definitive cure become available.

Maybe you know all of this already and this sounds redundant to you, but I'd figure to summarize my thoughts on this condition for other people in the thread as well.
Was November when your own voice was hurting you? Or was this during your original trauma? Do you feel you've made good progress since November? Currently I don't feel like I've made any. It's been about 40 days in mostly 24/7 protection.
 
Was November when your own voice was hurting you? Or was this during your original trauma? Do you feel you've made good progress since November? Currently I don't feel like I've made any. It's been about 40 days in mostly 24/7 protection.
There is a reference here to November. Did you get the COVID-19 vaccine or booster at that time? I had my booster at the end of November. I have read some postings from folks who believe that there is some causal link between the vaccine and tinnitus and/or hyperacusis.
 
Was November when your own voice was hurting you? Or was this during your original trauma? Do you feel you've made good progress since November? Currently I don't feel like I've made any. It's been about 40 days in mostly 24/7 protection.
I do not really know what you mean by original trauma, but yes, around that time my voice did hurt me. To be honest, I am disappointed with my hyperacusis progress thus far. I expected it was only going to take a couple of months for me to get better. My symptoms have only improved slightly. But I have managed to deal with the condition better.

You mentioned in an earlier post that being in your basement without protection caused you ear pain. I'd say it is not possible to make any progress whatsoever unless you eliminate all sounds which cause a painful reaction.
 
There is a reference here to November. Did you get the COVID-19 vaccine or booster at that time? I had my booster at the end of November. I have read some postings from folks who believe that there is some causal link between the vaccine and tinnitus and/or hyperacusis.
I did get a booster around this time. Probably closer to December. My 2nd dose of Pfizer gave me a setback in hyperacusis I feel. It lasted about 2 months over the summer.

I didn't feel like the booster effected my ears, but I had horrible heart palpitations for weeks afterward. I also got a bad flu around this time. Who knows what all caused me to go downhill.

The record store incident was definitely the catalyst though.
 
I do not really know what you mean by original trauma, but yes, around that time my voice did hurt me. To be honest, I am disappointed with my hyperacusis progress thus far. I expected it was only going to take a couple of months for me to get better. My symptoms have only improved slightly. But I have managed to deal with the condition better.

You mentioned in an earlier post that being in your basement without protection caused you ear pain. I'd say it is not possible to make any progress whatsoever unless you eliminate all sounds which cause a painful reaction.
Your profile says you've had tinnitus since 2012. I mean your original trauma that caused it. Did you also get hyperacusis then, or was this a more recent development?

I have three young children. I don't think completely eliminating all noise that hurts my ears is remotely possible. I do seem to be able to avoid ear pain most of the day.

Yes, even being in that finished basement can cause my ears to hurt. It's delayed pain. It's 30 some dB down there with no air conditioning or anything going. I don't know of an environment much quieter than that besides an isolation chamber. I do try to eliminate most noise. I wear hearing protection almost all the time. Only take it off when I feel I'm going crazy from this low tone to experiment. But that's been a few hours in like 3 weeks. I do try to give my ears a few minutes to breathe per day or switch between earplugs and earmuffs sometimes.

I wear double protection to pick up and drop off my kids. I just don't see an alternative. If I were to virtual school my kids, I would have even more artificial noise in my house and they would need assistance. So eliminating the driving doesn't solve the problem, it really compounds it. Also, one of my sons has issues where he needs physical and occupational therapy which they do provide to a degree at his school.

I think it's great you are able to live with your parents currently to recover. I wish I had that option. If you don't have children, then even better for you. I'm not being sarcastic or anything. I just seriously don't know how I can just cut out all sound that hurts with children.

I've already informed the school to text only, I don't go to any meetings related to my children etc. His teachers probably think I'm a shit father at this point. I don't answer my phone 99% of the time when it rings. I order all my groceries for pick up orders. Any food I order through is delivery service. I literally haven't driven outside a 3 mile vicinity of my house in over a month.

What exactly do you suggest I do?
 
Your profile says you've had tinnitus since 2012. I mean your original trauma that caused it. Did you also get hyperacusis then, or was this a more recent development?
I couldn't really pin it down to a single noise trauma. One day I just suddenly noticed my ears rang when everything was quiet. Probably had something to do with fireworks. I used to listen to loud music on my speakers for hours on end. Before my hyperacusis got chronic last year, I sometimes suffered from short periods of over sensitivity to sound. If I stopped listening to music for a couple of days, it always got better.
I think it's great you are able to live with your parents currently to recover. I wish I had that option. If you don't have children, then even better for you. I'm not being sarcastic or anything. I just seriously don't know how I can just cut out all sound that hurts with children.

I've already informed the school to text only, I don't go to any meetings related to my children etc. His teachers probably think I'm a shit father at this point. I don't answer my phone 99% of the time when it rings. I order all my groceries for pick up orders. Any food I order through is delivery service. I literally haven't driven outside a 3 mile vicinity of my house in over a month.

What exactly do you suggest I do?
Besides the other things I've advised you in previous posts, you could consider making things right with your dad and asking him if he could take the kids with him for a while. Do other people besides your kids live in your house as well? Do you maybe have an ex partner you could contact? Don't worry about what your teachers think of you. Right now you should just seek help. Especially since you mention your son has certain issues. Maybe the government runs programs for these kinds of things? You could and should tell someone about your suicidal thoughts as soon as possible. Some medication might help you. Honestly I am very worried about the possibility of you hurting yourself.
 
Hi, I've never really recovered since my last couple setbacks.

Around spring/summer last year, it took me a couple weeks of just not listening to music and not using drugs/drinking alcohol to get to a level where I didn't really notice the hyperacusis. I could also listen to music then and go outside without hearing protection.

I don't really know which setback was the final straw, but I am protecting all day long since November I believe.

There were periods when even when I was wearing hearing protection, I still perceived some sounds as too loud. I believe the key to improving is again avoiding all sounds that you feel uncomfortable about.

Even if that means wearing double hearing protection and being more careful with how you move. You have to be militant about it, but it is a sacrifice that is worth making. I've said it before but I highly advise getting custom earplugs made if you can stomach a trip to the hearing care professional. Double hearing protection is very helpful for trips to the supermarket and car rides.

Most importantly: Avoid all digital sounds!

About the new tinnitus tones popping up, that has happened to me too. Do you find any correlation between quality/quantity of sleep, your overall health and mood, and your tinnitus? For me, these factors are interrelated much more than they are for pain hyperacusis. I'd recommend finding ways to optimize your mental and physical health wherever possible.

In my opinion, it is also important to change your mindset. Complete recovery is probably not going to happen on its own. What we can achieve however is reach to a level where we can live in a relatively normal fashion, albeit wearing hearing protection as necessary. I used to be unable to talk without hurting my ears, now I can talk more freely with people, even though I wear hearing protection then. It is important to keep in mind that theoretically, the more you improve, the less sounds aggravate your hyperacusis, and the faster the recovery process should go (if major setbacks do not occur). Do you use any supplements or anything like that? I am taking those, I am visiting a chiropractor weekly, and Ive also brought a laser machine at home. This might speed up the recovery process.

This condition is absolutely the most brutal thing I have ever dealt with in my life. But you will get used to wearing hearing protection. Most of the time I'm not even conscious of it. I'd advise you not to focus on how you can use hearing protection less, but on how you can continue your day to day activities whilst wearing protection. This will give you more joy and happiness than trying to scale down it. We just have to last it out until a definitive cure become available.

Maybe you know all of this already and this sounds redundant to you, but I'd figure to summarize my thoughts on this condition for other people in the thread as well.
How do you deal with hearing your voice so loudly when using hearing protection?

Seems like it pushes the voice up to 75/85 dB quite easily. Especially in a restaurant.
 
How do you deal with hearing your voice so loudly when using hearing protection?

Seems like it pushes the voice up to 75/85 dB quite easily. Especially in a restaurant.
I am actually doing alright now. I used to avoid talking to people when my voice hurt, even with hearing protection. So I am actually kind of glad I can communicate with people somewhat normally now.
 
You could and should tell someone about your suicidal thoughts as soon as possible. Some medication might help you. Honestly I am very worried about the possibility of you hurting yourself.
But one should talk only with someone whom one trusts about this. There are cases here that ended up in psych ward because of this and this does not help hyperacusis in any way. There are also no medications for hyperacusis, so one is just left with the option to avoid all triggering noises and take some supplements and hope that with the passage of time these hyperactive nerves or whatever it is calms down.
 
But one should talk only with someone whom one trusts about this. There are cases here that ended up in psych ward because of this and this does not help hyperacusis in any way. There are also no medications for hyperacusis, so one is just left with the option to avoid all triggering noises and take some supplements and hope that with the passage of time these hyperactive nerves or whatever it is calms down.
I have been suicidal as well, I know what it's like to feel completely hopeless and I recognize the signs when things could rapidly escalate. I didn't trust anyone in my environment with my feelings either, which almost cost me my life. Reading the posts of @GoatSheep, it is obvious he is in a very rough situation right now. He got a lot more going on than hyperacusis alone. But we as forum members can only give some advice and words of encouragement. So that is why I told him to talk to other people about his problems. I am not an American, but where I live, people rarely get locked away involuntarily in a psych ward.
 
I couldn't really pin it down to a single noise trauma. One day I just suddenly noticed my ears rang when everything was quiet. Probably had something to do with fireworks. I used to listen to loud music on my speakers for hours on end. Before my hyperacusis got chronic last year, I sometimes suffered from short periods of over sensitivity to sound. If I stopped listening to music for a couple of days, it always got better.

Besides the other things I've advised you in previous posts, you could consider making things right with your dad and asking him if he could take the kids with him for a while. Do other people besides your kids live in your house as well? Do you maybe have an ex partner you could contact? Don't worry about what your teachers think of you. Right now you should just seek help. Especially since you mention your son has certain issues. Maybe the government runs programs for these kinds of things? You could and should tell someone about your suicidal thoughts as soon as possible. Some medication might help you. Honestly I am very worried about the possibility of you hurting yourself.
My father is almost 70. He lives 8 hours away from me. There's no chance he would take on my children and completely uproot their lives.

Their mother and I don't get along and she doesn't care about my suffering. She has them some, but her schedule doesn't accommodate school pick up and drop off. We already have joint custody. If I forfeit custody and jeopardize her career then she will spend her every last bit of energy trying to screw me over in court. Since I am already homebound and I have a condition no one believes in the courts will gladly give her whatever she wants and I won't be able to foot the bill. Then they will lock my ass up. The prospect of having to go to court or even video hearings would be worse than what I deal with now. The prospect of incarceration, I'd rather be dead.

No one else lives with me.

Thanks for the suggestions.
 
Right but earplugs aren't really "sound deprivation." Most musician's plugs and even most foam plugs are only reducing and taking the edge off - hardly like you're in a sound isolation booth.
I guess it depends on which sound environment you're in. If we're almost always in a quiet setting, and use foam plugs, which can cut over 40 dB at 8 kHz almost no high frequency input makes its way to the brain. Low frequency sound penetrates more easily though.

I think there's an significant difference between sitting in a "quiet room" and using ear plugs, because even in a quiet room we're bombarded by very low high frequency sound from the environment. A type of enrichment that is lost when using plugs.
 
How do you deal with hearing your voice so loudly when using hearing protection?

Seems like it pushes the voice up to 75/85 dB quite easily. Especially in a restaurant.
There is no solution to this. Currently my voice hurts even if I whisper even if I wear earplugs. I tested and my wife's voice does not hurt as much as mine, although usually her voice hurts more. So I concluded that this happens because my voice travels through bone conduction directly to the cochlea and also vibration.
 
There is no solution to this. Currently my voice hurts even if I whisper even if I wear earplugs. I tested and my wife's voice does not hurt as much as mine, although usually her voice hurts more. So I concluded that this happens because my voice travels through bone conduction directly to the cochlea and also vibration.
Yeah it's definitely a lot louder inside with occlusion effect. It's like I can choose earplugs for loud environments, but it makes me not want to talk which is frustrating. Even more so in quieter environments.

Is your pain immediate or does it come after 10-20 minutes+ of talking?
 
Yeah it's definitely a lot louder inside with occlusion effect. It's like I can choose earplugs for loud environments, but it makes me not want to talk which is frustrating. Even more so in quieter environments.
Is your pain immediate or does it come after 10-20 minutes+ of talking?
The pain is instant, I cannot even whisper. Sometimes I feel that breathing creates pain.

Usually I could talk, but the last 3 days were brutal.
 
SecretMoniker said:
Hello SecretMoniker! Always remain positive.

I also started with hypercusis nine months ago, and I am improving slowly. I am now driving without my earplugs, going to the supermarket etc.

I also have regular counselling, this has been so helpful. And I use NHS provided in-ear sound generators.

Let us know how you are. Sending prayers.
Hello Eleanor89. Could you tell us about your experience with hyperacusis and how it has improved over time? Were you originally using hearing protection that you weaned off of? What was the role of the sound generators, how did you manage that and do you think those were beneficial?
 
I am actually doing alright now. I used to avoid talking to people when my voice hurt, even with hearing protection. So I am actually kind of glad I can communicate with people somewhat normally now.
How long did you have hyperacusis before you could communicate normally with people?
 
How long did you have hyperacusis before you could communicate normally with people?
That's a tough question. In the summer of 2020, I developed chronic pain hyperacusis. Around that time, my own voice hurt when I tried to speak with people. Sometimes I managed to recover to a certain extent, only for me to screw it up again by carelessly exposing myself to sound. Around September 2021 my hyperacusis had seriously deteriorated. Around November I started wearing hearing protection all day long. I still struggled to communicate properly with people. Because of the pain, I tried to speak in an unnatural, forced manner which probably put a lot of strain on my throat. My friend that still visits me sometimes recently mentioned how my voice is much less loud than it used to be. So somehow I must have adapted the way I speak. For the last couple of months I can speak semi-normally to people again, albeit with hearing protection. Taking good care of my health probably played a big role in this too.
 
@StoneInFocus, did/do you have pain in silence or only when exposing to sounds?
I have experienced both. In 2020 I could experience a burning sensation around my ear area in silence. The burning sensation hasn't really come back since November 2021. Sometimes I notice a very slight burning feeling but that is about it. I still experience direct pain from sounds.
 
I have experienced both. In 2020 I could experience a burning sensation around my ear area in silence. The burning sensation hasn't really come back since November 2021. Sometimes I notice a very slight burning feeling but that is about it. I still experience direct pain from sounds.
Thanks, I am happy that you recovered to a certain point. It seems that the severe cases, like us, are not easy to heal at all.
 

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