Should I Cancel My Trip Abroad?
- Thread starter Apocalypse77
- Start date
- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
Go. After reading through a lot of your posts, stress and anxiety seem to be as much of your problem as noise is. This is not true for everyone. Just protect your hearing around loud places and you'll be okay.
Rubenslash
Member
Dude you should go. In the beginning I was hesitant as well but it was absolutely my best decision to go on holiday.
Everyone here recommends to go. Given your anxiety and irrationality (look at all the threads you have made in the past), it might make sense to listen to this advice.
There is a lot of advice on this forum with regard to ear protection on planes, seat position,... Just keep that in mind.
Everyone here recommends to go. Given your anxiety and irrationality (look at all the threads you have made in the past), it might make sense to listen to this advice.
There is a lot of advice on this forum with regard to ear protection on planes, seat position,... Just keep that in mind.
- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
How am I able to be in the super loud and busy city? And If I can go to this trip why should I avoid going to movies?
- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
A really really important question!
If my tinnitus got a permanent spike from the MRI does it mean I should try to avoid loud noises and not go to the trip?
Please someone answer soon I have to make my final choice today!
If my tinnitus got a permanent spike from the MRI does it mean I should try to avoid loud noises and not go to the trip?
Please someone answer soon I have to make my final choice today!
Rubenslash
Member
Can't you wear plugs or something in the "super loud" city? (I assume you mean Tokio?)
- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
Yes, they work great. They're also the strongest earmuffs on the market atm.
I've also recommended these to you in another thead you've made about movie theaters. I use the X5A daily in a noisy work environment and they're great at blocking out loud machine noise and especially low frequency noise (think of airplane engine noise here...) making your surrounding environment seem relatively quite.
Noise cancelling headphones are not proper hearing protection.
The manufacturers can't guarantee any type of hearing protection since they're purpose built being headphones.
Like others have mentioned too, buy a good pair of certified earmuffs.
Airplane engine noise can cause damage especially on long haul flights. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise, even a doctor. The noise is close to 80 dB(A) on almost every commercial flight out there. Usually the noise idles around 77-79 dB(A) so caution is recommended.
The trick is to use common sense here. Ask yourself, will 77-79 dB(A) over 10 hours be comfortable for you? Probably not, so you'll need a solution at hand if you want to go on this trip. A good pair of strong earmuffs will easily solve the problem. They'll also be useful in the noisy city environment you'll encounter when you arrive at your destination.
Rubenslash
Member
Dude, you are going on holiday, HOLIDAY. Thats not equal to a nightclub, festival, fireworks, loud stadium,...!! And if u feel uncomfortable about visiting some place there due to noise, just skip the activity
Go to Japan! Don't think! Go!!!!! Most your school friends will never see Japan! You can!
- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
I won't go I will tell my dad today. I can't seriously stand near a road where car goes by. I would have to sit 10 hours. I am sure my tinnitus would spike permanently. I had the MRI and my tinnitus spiked I think I should really rest my ears this time.
Please can someone tell me is it as loud as a car going past yourself?
Please can someone tell me is it as loud as a car going past yourself?
You would be in the airplane, not flying outside of it. Is a car louder when you are in it or when you stand outside of it? Typically, inside is quieter. From everything I've read posted by members here, inside a plane at cruising altitude is similar to being in a car on the highway -- not similar to standing by the highway listening to cars drive past.
Is your entire family going?
- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
Yes my entire family is going, my mom and dad don't live together anymore so only my dad and my siblings.
Come on, some districts are loud but the city is far from being "super loud"
Go, you'll be fine
If you keep your ears protected during the flight they cannot be damaged. You can wear double protection if that makes you more confident but that's not necessary..
You can't really compare, a car going past yourself suddenly changes the acoustic level. Which is more likely to cause discomfort.
Why do you keep asking the same question worded in different ways over and over again? This has been answered several times. Take the information you've been given and work with it, or just don't go on the trip at all.
A busy road is anywhere from 75-85 db(A)... (You can find this information available for free on Google.)
A commercial airplane is about 77-79 dB(A)... (I posted this information for you yesterday.)
This answers your question.
YES, it's as loud as a car going past.
So wear hearing protection.
As mentioned by several people, including myself, earplugs or earmuffs is a very good idea.
This is unfortunately not correct. Usually cars are less noisy due to several factors.
1.) Insulation
This matters a lot in a car when it comes to noise. More expensive cars tend to be alot quieter when you drive them. There's a very good reason people are willing to pay a premium for brands like Mercedes or Lexus, instead of just buying a Suzuki or a Citroën.
2.) Type of road you travel on
Most people with tinnitus would try to avoid highways and go for backroads instead. This greatly reduces the noise a car produces.
3.) The way you drive
You control the speed when you drive, if you rev the engine less and drive more carefully you can reduce engine noise to a desired level. This cannot be done on a commercial airline.
4.) Type of tyres you have
Noise efficient tyres is a thing these days, you can purchase them, put them on your car, and reduce the level of noise you hear inside the car.
5.) Low frequency noise
Airplane engines produce alot more low frequency noise than a car will ever produce.
This is especially bad for people with tinnitus as it can aggravate the problem greatly.
- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
No worries, plugs/muffs will definitely solve your anxiety about flying.
Have a nice day.
I disagree. I've been on at least 24 flights since getting hyperacusis. In large airplanes, the more bothersome noises are the higher frequency ones. Jet turbines produce a higher frequency noise then gasoline engines.
@Apocalypse77 Just go and wear earplugs + earmuffs for the flight. Just be careful pulling out earplugs because of the pressure changes. If you do pull them out mid flight or after you land do it very slowly.
I think one or the other would be sufficient, both may be overkill, but it will help you stress about it less.
Rubenslash
Member
I pulled out my plugs several items during flight and descent and had no problems at all with regard to pressure changes. I think this only applies to people who are sensitive to it.
Member- Dec 17, 2015
- 577
- Tinnitus Since
- December 2nd, 2015
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (loud concert for 1h)
I am going to Seoul next month, it's like 13h in total with 10 h of them being on a flight (one 1h flight and then one 9h one). I have had the same problem as you, being scared and being weary of traveling. I've been three times since onset for work and it has only been short trips (longest was 4h) but this trip is much longer and I was worried it would harm me. I booked with an airline that has really new airplanes (Airbus 350) and according to them and others, it should only be 65db in the cabin, not sure if this is true but it is said to be one of the quietest planes right now, with only one model that is even quieter. We paid $100 dollar extra for this airline and for me it is worth it, the fact that I know it is a new and quiet plane really helps my mental stage. Will still use NC and earmuffs of course but I haven't been as anxious as before knowing I need to be on a plane for half a day basically. But this might change the closer I get to the date.
My point is, I've been wanting to go to Seoul for many years now but never did for some reason. I don't want to have T stop me and if we take precautions with the noise and protect our ears, we will be fine. We shouldn't just sit at home and never experience the world just because of T. It feels hard and it affects us more but I think we might regret that we never took the change when we get older. So go!
My point is, I've been wanting to go to Seoul for many years now but never did for some reason. I don't want to have T stop me and if we take precautions with the noise and protect our ears, we will be fine. We shouldn't just sit at home and never experience the world just because of T. It feels hard and it affects us more but I think we might regret that we never took the change when we get older. So go!
- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
Should I pull earplugs out few times or keep them in my ears for the whole flight? And have you used earplanes, I am thinking about buying them.
- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
We will be flying with the Airbus 350 too!
But only to Japan when we come back the plane will be an older one 
I told my dad that I want those Peltor X5A earmuffs but he just laughed and said that my bose headphones will do the work. I will not go to this trip if he won't buy me those earmuffs. What is NC?
And will you use earplugs? Earplanes are pressure reducing earplugs and I think I might buy those, but I am considered about how much noise does they reduce. Have a nice trip Fangen. I hope your T will not get worse.
- Dec 17, 2015
- 577
- Tinnitus Since
- December 2nd, 2015
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (loud concert for 1h)
We will be flying with the Airbus 350 too!
What is NC?
Have a nice trip Fangen. I hope your T will not get worse.
NC is noise cancelling, which your BOSE probably is too. NC is for me better than earmuffs as they cancel out the engine sounds. I have a pair of earmuffs but only flown with NC, which I think works great. With earmuffs you just lower the db of all frequencies while the NC headphones cancel the lower ones out, it is really what you prefer.
I have used the earplanes earplugs, but they hurt a bit after an hour or so.
- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
The only time you need to think about letting you ears equalize is during takeoff and landing. That's why I just use earmuffs because I can crack them without taking them off and I don't have to worry about equalizing. Since it's a long flight you could put in earplugs once you reach altitude and keep them in until they announce they will be landing soon.
I have used earplanes, they are too small for my ear canals, but I have very large ear canals and have that problem with most earplugs.
Noise canceling earmuffs aren't really necessary.
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