Suicidal Because Noise from rTMS (140 dB!) Massively Worsened My Tinnitus and Caused Hearing Loss

Comments like these aggravate me to no end. Its like someone with a missing finger telling a paraplegic that everything will be ok and that he has adapted to life.

The guy ended his life. Obviously you are completely out of touch.
We all have our own levels to deal with and we all have our own tolerance levels. We have no idea the suffering level of another person - only our own. I think his advice was well meant but I understand your point.
 
Comments like these aggravate me to no end. Its like someone with a missing finger telling a paraplegic that everything will be ok and that he has adapted to life.

The guy ended his life. Obviously you are completely out of touch.
I do my best to spread positivity. I feel terrible that he ended his life. RIP Joe.

My point was he had this new spike for less than 6 months. It took me 18 months before I had any real recovery and return to a normal life. I was just trying to tell him to hold on and maybe he would get better. Sorry if I offended you.
 
I do my best to spread positivity. I feel terrible that he ended his life. RIP Joe.

My point was he had this new spike for less than 6 months. It took me 18 months before I had any real recovery and return to a normal life. I was just trying to tell him to hold on and maybe he would get better. Sorry if I offended you.
He didn't have a spike, he had 13. Each caused by the same procedure. He went from mild/moderate to severe/catastrophic. Comments like yours diminish the suffering of people with severe tinnitus. You may be well meaning but you are harming them, because it makes them seem like they are weak. This condition cannot be mentally managed with "positive energy" past a certain point.

Everyone else except you and Juan managed to give well meaning and yet solid advice. Please read the post and understand the severity of their tinnitus first before suggesting silly things.
 
Why hasn't the relentless preaching from various posters about the true effectiveness of habituation not persuaded so many who were gravely afflicted from nonetheless still committing suicide?
 
I don't really understand what you hope to achieve by making such statements.
Did it ever occur to you that perhaps such a question was asked entirely in the spirit of medically induced intellectual curiosity with no particular bias or intention? That such a question might be posed by psychiatrists, psychotherapists, medical researchers, et.al since the incapacity of habituation to prevent suicides has been such a frequently, objectively observable phenomena?

In fact, it is intellectually cowardly to object to this question because it indicates that under such extreme circumstances habituation has such limitations.

Only by acknowledging this will we be motivated to seek out a real treatment.

And, who knows? Perhaps research into this will yield either more effective methods of internalizing habituation and / or new discoveries regarding the functioning of the brain.
 
I don't really understand what you hope to achieve by making such statements.
I mean, this is @DaveFromChicago we're talking about here. He probably thinks success stories exclusively on Tinnitus Talk that involve habituation is somehow stifling tinnitus research and treatment advances. It's absurd.

Also @Michael Leigh has been living rent free in his mind for quite some time now.
 
Did it ever occur to you that perhaps such a question was asked entirely in the spirit of medically induced intellectual curiosity with no particular bias or intention? That such a question might be posed by psychiatrists, psychotherapists, medical researchers, et.al since the incapacity of habituation to prevent suicides has been such a frequently, objectively observable phenomena?

In fact, it is intellectually cowardly to object to this question because it indicates that under such extreme circumstances habituation has such limitations.

Only by acknowledging this will we be motivated to seek out a real treatment.

And, who knows? Perhaps research into this will yield either more effective methods of internalizing habituation and / or new discoveries regarding the functioning of the brain.
You're such a difficult character dude.
 
I mean, this is @DaveFromChicago we're talking about here. He probably thinks success stories exclusively on Tinnitus Talk that involve habituation is somehow stifling tinnitus research and treatment advances. It's absurd.

Also @Michael Leigh has been living rent free in his mind for quite some time now.
That is not absurd in the slightest. For 3 years I have been reading from knowledgeable posters that Jastreboff's vaunted "methodology" regarding habituation has indeed convinced many that this is a conclusive treatment such that further research is not necessary (and Jastreboff himself has quite obnoxiously in several videos assured us of this to the extent that he is against research for finding, for example, an effective drug).
 
Whoever follows Michael Leigh's advice needs to be careful. Seriously, who even follows his advice?
The reason people with noise-induced tinnitus should follow my advice and fellow veterans with our way of thinking, is because we know how devastating this condition can be. It is advice, not absolute.

Michael
 
Whoever follows Michael Leigh's advice needs to be careful. Seriously, who even follows his advice?
I think it's good advice for the majority of people. It's only people who have noxacusis that shouldn't follow his advice. Or he should at least add in a disclaimer for noxacusis. But even then, sometimes people with noxacusis would benefit from his advice. It seems to be only a certain type of noxacusis that just continually gets worse.

All in all, his advice is still a lot better than the majority of doctors and ENTs.
 
I think it's good advice for the majority of people. It's only people who have noxacusis that shouldn't follow his advice. Or he should at least add in a disclaimer for noxacusis. But even then, sometimes people with noxacusis would benefit from his advice. It seems to be only a certain type of noxacusis that just continually gets worse.

All in all, his advice is still a lot better than the majority of doctors and ENTs.
Please don't judge doctors and ENTs too harshly @SmallRonnie. In fairness they are physicians, not tinnitus specialists. They treat underlying medical conditions that cause tinnitus and there are many. However, they do not treat tinnitus because this is not their area of expertise. The bedside manner of some of these health professionals leaves a lot to be desired, due to their lack of understanding of the way tinnitus can affect a person's mental and emotional wellbeing. This is the reason I say, to fully understand tinnitus one has to live with it and preferably have experience of it being mild, moderate and severe.

I wish you well,
Michael
 
I must have missed this post from you, @DaveFromChicago.
That is not absurd in the slightest. For 3 years I have been reading from knowledgeable posters that Jastreboff's vaunted "methodology" regarding habituation has indeed convinced many that this is a conclusive treatment such that further research is not necessary (and Jastreboff himself has quite obnoxiously in several videos assured us of this to the extent that he is against research for finding, for example, an effective drug).
To suggest that posters on a forum who promote habituation are halting the research of finding a cure/treatments... cmon Dave, that's just absurd and you know it. I don't think these 'habituationists' as you like to referred to them as had anything to do with Otonomy's recent failings. How about Dr. Susan Shore or Frequency Therapeutics? Are they being stifled too? Can you prove this?

And for the record, I've never seen anyone here say that effective treatments for tinnitus are not necessary. I certainly wouldn't agree to that and would check someone for saying that. Most proponents of habituation I've seen here also support finding effective treatments/drugs. I think you must be mistaken.

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve here with your constant attempts to vilify these 'habituationists'. The reality is: there is no cure for tinnitus and until there is, the phenomenon of habituation will still be the main way of dealing with it (for most people).
 
To suggest that posters on a forum who promote habituation are halting the research of finding a cure/treatments... cmon Dave, that's just absurd and you know it. I don't think these 'habituationists' as you like to referred to them as had anything to do with Otonomy's recent failings. How about Dr. Susan Shore or Frequency Therapeutics? Are they being stifled too? Can you prove this?

And for the record, I've never seen anyone here say that effective treatments for tinnitus are not necessary. I certainly wouldn't agree to that and would check someone for saying that. Most proponents of habituation I've seen here also support finding effective treatments/drugs. I think you must be mistaken.

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve here with your constant attempts to vilify these 'habituationists'. The reality is: there is no cure for tinnitus and until there is, the phenomenon of habituation will still be the main way of dealing with it (for most people).
I am somewhat astounded by this hysterically defensive reaction.

Didn't you notice that my comments applied to Jastreboff only? Why did you assume that it also applied to every advocate of habituation?

Did it ever occur to you that I myself, after 8 years of this, have also of necessity had to develop at least a makeshift method of habituation just to be minimally functional?

I am heartily sick of my comments being misinterpreted. This was never the case 3 years ago when I first started posting.
 
That is not absurd in the slightest. For 3 years I have been reading from knowledgeable posters that Jastreboff's vaunted "methodology" regarding habituation has indeed convinced many that this is a conclusive treatment such that further research is not necessary (and Jastreboff himself has quite obnoxiously in several videos assured us of this to the extent that he is against research for finding, for example, an effective drug).
I do share your distaste for the failure for any effective treatments, trust me. When I got tinnitus in 2016, I wasn't worried about it getting worse since I thought we were on the cusp of groundbreaking tinnitus treatments.

I do not agree that people posting success stories on habituation is hindering anything. Some people habituate, some people don't. I don't think many people could habituate to what I hear, but I am glad that there are some things in the pipeline to ease some of the suffering. Hang in there.
 
Didn't you notice that my comments applied to Jastreboff only?
Let me rephrase the question then. Has Jastreboff hindered Dr. Shore or others currently involved in tinnitus research/treatments in any way? If yes, do you have any evidence to support this?
Why did you assume that it also applied to every advocate of habituation?
I said in my first post that you're the type of guy who believes success stories endorsing habituation here were a hindrance to finding treatments to which I stated was absurd to believe. You literally responded by saying it wasn't absurd in the slightest, therefore I assumed you actually really believe people who support habituation are very problematic in that regard.

And let's be honest here, anyone who has frequented this forum for some time now will realize that you have an obsessive hatred for Michael Leigh here on Tinnitus Talk. I can understand why you and others would disagree with some of his viewpoints, but your hate for him is on a religious level. Wild.
Did it ever occur to you that I myself, after 8 years of this, have also of necessity had to develop at least a makeshift method of habituation just to be minimally functional?
Of course it occurred to me. Most people do achieve some degree of habituation over time whether they like it or not. I've learned that from the veterans here and I'm inclined to agree.

It's difficult to get a read on you sometimes because you sound very angry most of the time (which I can sympathize with to an extent).
 
I understand what @DaveFromChicago is saying. The relationship between habituation, research, and a lack of treatments is a delicate issue. Many are too eager to point to habituation as the solution for tinnitus, whether it's habituation of reaction or perception. It's good for those who can achieve it, but they shouldn't be expected to. Tinnitus is no different than any other health problem. It comes in all shapes and sizes. People with mild back pain habituate to a lifestyle of surrendering to it. But people who are crippled and can barely move — wheezing in agony — can't. And tinnitus should get that same respect for the annoyance or murderer it can truly be.

Pushing habituation too much nurtures the mentality that an effective solution already exists. It poses a problem to the severe sufferers who can't habituate effectively. For many with extreme tinnitus, it's not just a sound, but a sensation, too — and a painful one. The frequency of tinnitus can be so high that it causes physical pain. And it continues to worsen on its own, even when you're careful. So habituation is not possible in those cases and many commit suicide.

Since habituation is often glorified with tinnitus, society loses sight that there's even a problem and places little importance on it. Some lives are in literal ruins because of the devastation that tinnitus brings. It would be absurd to tell someone with seizures or Parkinson's Disease to just habituate, or even crippling back pain, and the same mentality should be applied to those who suffer from profound tinnitus.

The reason there isn't effective treatments or a cure yet isn't because it's impossible to solve. It's due to lack of funding. As we all know, there's barely any funding that goes towards ear disorders. Other health conditions get billions. AIDS gets 28 billion a year, Parkinson's 52 billion, cancer 6 billion. Even space exploration gets more than all of them at 54 billion. Studies say that 10% of the population has tinnitus to some degree. That's a huge number. For something so common, you'd think it would be prioritized. If a respectable amount of money was funded toward it, we'd likely already have options on the table to treat it.

No one should be expected to just settle and live with a problem when you don't have to. That's the argument being made here. If money was properly managed, we wouldn't have to surrender to a life of torment with tinnitus. We could solve it.
 
@Jerad, you bring up a lot of really good points and I don't necessarily disagree with the essence of what you're saying. I'm just not entirely convinced that habituation is acting as some sort of roadblock to finding pharmaceutical solutions.

Tinnitus related research needs way more public exposure and awareness in the media, that's for sure. And yes, the lack of funding is a problem, but it's only one part of the problem. Some posters far more knowledgeable than me have already brought it up in other threads, that one of the biggest hurdles to finding effective treatments or a cure and what seems like an almost impossible task even if we had all the funding in the world is the utmost priority and need for objective measurements of tinnitus. Excluding objective tinnitus (very rare), we still have no ways of determining whether someone has tinnitus along with no objective way in determining the severity of people's tinnitus. Without that we will never be able to ascertain with the upmost confidence whether treatments are improving tinnitus.

How do we measure something that only the person is able to perceive? Personally, I'm not even sure we can find these precise measurements even if we had all the funding in the world. I dunno, maybe I'm being quite pessimistic here, but it just seems extremely difficult. I really hope the Bionics Institute can do it. It'd be a major breakthrough. And I'm sure tinnitus researchers are well aware of all this, but the continual reliance of self reporting measures will still be a major roadblock for us and hold us back in finding various treatments.
Parkinson's 52 billion,
In defense of the funding that Parkinson's disease and other neurodegenerative conditions receives, a lot of their work now deals with neuro-inflammation. There could certainly be some benefit for us there too. Their research and treatments could very well compliment tinnitus treatments too (Deep Brain Stimulation for example).

But I agree with you in the end. There are people out there that need serious help. I would never deny such a thing.
I agree. @DaveFromChicago doesn't need to change his tone and neither does anyone else. People on here will always disagree with something or with the way it has been said. And I think that's fine. Everyone has their say.
You're absolutely right about that. People should be able to freely express themselves however they like. It's a public forum after all. Well said @tpj.
 
You're absolutely right about that. People should be able to freely express themselves however they like. It's a public forum after all.
@ZFire -- Do you feel the following "expression" is appropriate? @dayma didn't; -- nor did I; -- nor did @AfroSnowman. It sure appears to me by @DaveFromChicago's words that he thinks it's quite appropriate to suggest various forum members leave, apparently just because he doesn't agree with us--even though we're not trying to convince him of anything.
I can't f**king believe that @AfroSnowman, @MindOverMatter, @Lane and @dayma would still support such an unqualified charlatan.

You have now given me a window into the sort of mentality that would have so unconditionally followed such a repulsive figure as Jim Jones into Jonestown.

You have identified yourselves as the kind of outer-directed personalities who for some unfathomable motive have completely discounted all of the obvious examples I gave that demonstrate Julian Cowan Hill's idiocy, delusional crankishness, and outright fraudulence.

Perhaps you should leave this Forum (which, in case you haven't noticed, attempts to concentrate on legitimate science) and drink the Kool-Aid with Mr. Hill.

I regard it as a point of personal honor to have the mental wherewithal to remain unaffected by him; if I ever noticed myself seriously considering him, I would regard it as a real indication that I needed Psychiatric help.
 
@ZFire -- Do you feel the following "expression" is appropriate? @dayma didn't; -- nor did I; -- nor did @AfroSnowman. It sure appears to me by @DaveFromChicago's words that he thinks it's quite appropriate to suggest various forum members leave, apparently just because he doesn't agree with us--even though we're not trying to convince him of anything.
No @Lane, I don't find that appropriate at all. What I meant to say, it's perfectly okay to have differences of opinions so long as people aren't resorting to childish attacks. I should have added in my previous post for clarity's sake. My apologies.

That post from @DaveFromChicago is yet another example of his hot-headed behavior. I'm always willing to give people the benefit of doubt or second chances, even if the vitriol was directed at me too. But that's just me.
 
@Jerad, you bring up a lot of really good points and I don't necessarily disagree with the essence of what you're saying. I'm just not entirely convinced that habituation is acting as some sort of roadblock to finding pharmaceutical solutions.
@ZFire, thanks for the feedback. It's good we can talk about these topics and respect each other.

I grew up in the '90s and I remember hearing about AIDS in school. They even had us watch a movie about it — some reenactment of a famous person who contracted it and tragically died. AIDS was seen as a death sentence back then. They warned us about it heavily. The fear reminded me of the hysteria and subsequent drills that came with the creation of the atomic bomb, when schools rehearsed what we should do if we ever heard that alarm to take cover. But now, it's no longer the devil it was. Medical magic made sure of that and the impossible became possible — effective treatments. Breakthroughs and science changed that, and that shows us that anything is possible when it comes to diseases and the prospects of treating them. But it didn't happen without money. That 28 billion a year has saved lives.

What especially scares me about severe tinnitus and noxacusis — I have both — is that they're so rare, I fear they'll always be sidelined by the world. If 10 people out of a million get noxacusis, that's a tiny number in the big scheme of things. Is the world going to really invest itself in such a small group of people? What's in it for them? Because, remember, money is always the driving force behind this stuff. I'm in a situation where my life is over if I can't improve. I'm homebound and can't even work now; can't even be around people. Noxacusis is a devil. Turns out, one of the worst things in the world is also the rarest. And that doesn't help our cause.

I do have hope in XEN1101 and Deep Brain Stimulation, and I'm hoping that they genuinely help those who suffer. It's possible that a treatment made for something else, like XEN1101 being an epilepsy and MDD drug, could help us.

This is going to sound controversial for some, but the medical community fears death too much. They rank and prioritize a condition based off how it affects one's mortality. If it will kill you, it's front and center when it comes to funding. But sometimes a natural death is nature's way of providing a dignified exit. Two hundred years ago, people would die naturally when faced with such a crisis, and that's not always a bad thing. The disorders and diseases that should be feared most are the ones that ruthlessly destroy your life, yet never take it to the grave — things like noxacusis, catastrophic tinnitus, people who are paralyzed, etc. A natural death should not be feared. It's a process of life that we all face. But not being able to interact with the world, talk to people, be a part of society, work, listen to sound… those are things that should trigger fear. Many who are in those shoes can't do those things without permanent worsenings. It's like they're in eternal quicksand that never ends. Being incompatible with existence is a real problem. Death isn't, especially if you believe you're going to a positive afterlife.

With severe noxacusis and reactive tinnitus, people are forced to isolate themselves forevermore when they can't recover from the afflictions... some of them in their 20s and 30s! What are they supposed to do for the next 50 years, assuming they'll live a normal lifespan? They can't work and can't even get on disability often. You see, the governments of this world leave them in a paradoxical situation, where they can't live and can't die either. They won't give them enough financial aid through disability to survive. They're literally left to rot. That's the realm the world should fear. Ask any sufferer who's experiencing extreme noxacusis or reactive tinnitus... they'd rather have the terminal cancer because life's over for them as is. They don't want to pull the plug themselves and shouldn't have to. Suicide or euthanasia shouldn't be the solution. And they're a moral conundrum for some. I don't condone them and feel they're not viable options. But the sad reality of the times is that it's easier to get legally euthanized than to get the world to respect ear conditions.
 
@ZFire, thanks for the feedback. It's good we can talk about these topics and respect each other.

I grew up in the '90s and I remember hearing about AIDS in school. They even had us watch a movie about it — some reenactment of a famous person who contracted it and tragically died. AIDS was seen as a death sentence back then. They warned us about it heavily. The fear reminded me of the hysteria and subsequent drills that came with the creation of the atomic bomb, when schools rehearsed what we should do if we ever heard that alarm to take cover. But now, it's no longer the devil it was. Medical magic made sure of that and the impossible became possible — effective treatments. Breakthroughs and science changed that, and that shows us that anything is possible when it comes to diseases and the prospects of treating them. But it didn't happen without money. That 28 billion a year has saved lives.

What especially scares me about severe tinnitus and noxacusis — I have both — is that they're so rare, I fear they'll always be sidelined by the world. If 10 people out of a million get noxacusis, that's a tiny number in the big scheme of things. Is the world going to really invest itself in such a small group of people? What's in it for them? Because, remember, money is always the driving force behind this stuff. I'm in a situation where my life is over if I can't improve. I'm homebound and can't even work now; can't even be around people. Noxacusis is a devil. Turns out, one of the worst things in the world is also the rarest. And that doesn't help our cause.

I do have hope in XEN1101 and Deep Brain Stimulation, and I'm hoping that they genuinely help those who suffer. It's possible that a treatment made for something else, like XEN1101 being an epilepsy and MDD drug, could help us.

This is going to sound controversial for some, but the medical community fears death too much. They rank and prioritize a condition based off how it affects one's mortality. If it will kill you, it's front and center when it comes to funding. But sometimes a natural death is nature's way of providing a dignified exit. Two hundred years ago, people would die naturally when faced with such a crisis, and that's not always a bad thing. The disorders and diseases that should be feared most are the ones that ruthlessly destroy your life, yet never take it to the grave — things like noxacusis, catastrophic tinnitus, people who are paralyzed, etc. A natural death should not be feared. It's a process of life that we all face. But not being able to interact with the world, talk to people, be a part of society, work, listen to sound… those are things that should trigger fear. Many who are in those shoes can't do those things without permanent worsenings. It's like they're in eternal quicksand that never ends. Being incompatible with existence is a real problem. Death isn't, especially if you believe you're going to a positive afterlife.

With severe noxacusis and reactive tinnitus, people are forced to isolate themselves forevermore when they can't recover from the afflictions... some of them in their 20s and 30s! What are they supposed to do for the next 50 years, assuming they'll live a normal lifespan? They can't work and can't even get on disability often. You see, the governments of this world leave them in a paradoxical situation, where they can't live and can't die either. They won't give them enough financial aid through disability to survive. They're literally left to rot. That's the realm the world should fear. Ask any sufferer who's experiencing extreme noxacusis or reactive tinnitus... they'd rather have the terminal cancer because life's over for them as is. They don't want to pull the plug themselves and shouldn't have to. Suicide or euthanasia shouldn't be the solution. And they're a moral conundrum for some. I don't condone them and feel they're not viable options. But the sad reality of the times is that it's easier to get legally euthanized than to get the world to respect ear conditions.
This is so well articulated and profound @Jerad.
 
@ZFire, thanks for the feedback. It's good we can talk about these topics and respect each other.

I grew up in the '90s and I remember hearing about AIDS in school. They even had us watch a movie about it — some reenactment of a famous person who contracted it and tragically died. AIDS was seen as a death sentence back then. They warned us about it heavily. The fear reminded me of the hysteria and subsequent drills that came with the creation of the atomic bomb, when schools rehearsed what we should do if we ever heard that alarm to take cover. But now, it's no longer the devil it was. Medical magic made sure of that and the impossible became possible — effective treatments. Breakthroughs and science changed that, and that shows us that anything is possible when it comes to diseases and the prospects of treating them. But it didn't happen without money. That 28 billion a year has saved lives.

What especially scares me about severe tinnitus and noxacusis — I have both — is that they're so rare, I fear they'll always be sidelined by the world. If 10 people out of a million get noxacusis, that's a tiny number in the big scheme of things. Is the world going to really invest itself in such a small group of people? What's in it for them? Because, remember, money is always the driving force behind this stuff. I'm in a situation where my life is over if I can't improve. I'm homebound and can't even work now; can't even be around people. Noxacusis is a devil. Turns out, one of the worst things in the world is also the rarest. And that doesn't help our cause.

I do have hope in XEN1101 and Deep Brain Stimulation, and I'm hoping that they genuinely help those who suffer. It's possible that a treatment made for something else, like XEN1101 being an epilepsy and MDD drug, could help us.

This is going to sound controversial for some, but the medical community fears death too much. They rank and prioritize a condition based off how it affects one's mortality. If it will kill you, it's front and center when it comes to funding. But sometimes a natural death is nature's way of providing a dignified exit. Two hundred years ago, people would die naturally when faced with such a crisis, and that's not always a bad thing. The disorders and diseases that should be feared most are the ones that ruthlessly destroy your life, yet never take it to the grave — things like noxacusis, catastrophic tinnitus, people who are paralyzed, etc. A natural death should not be feared. It's a process of life that we all face. But not being able to interact with the world, talk to people, be a part of society, work, listen to sound… those are things that should trigger fear. Many who are in those shoes can't do those things without permanent worsenings. It's like they're in eternal quicksand that never ends. Being incompatible with existence is a real problem. Death isn't, especially if you believe you're going to a positive afterlife.

With severe noxacusis and reactive tinnitus, people are forced to isolate themselves forevermore when they can't recover from the afflictions... some of them in their 20s and 30s! What are they supposed to do for the next 50 years, assuming they'll live a normal lifespan? They can't work and can't even get on disability often. You see, the governments of this world leave them in a paradoxical situation, where they can't live and can't die either. They won't give them enough financial aid through disability to survive. They're literally left to rot. That's the realm the world should fear. Ask any sufferer who's experiencing extreme noxacusis or reactive tinnitus... they'd rather have the terminal cancer because life's over for them as is. They don't want to pull the plug themselves and shouldn't have to. Suicide or euthanasia shouldn't be the solution. And they're a moral conundrum for some. I don't condone them and feel they're not viable options. But the sad reality of the times is that it's easier to get legally euthanized than to get the world to respect ear conditions.
I just read your post. It was cogent and hits somewhat close to home. Ten years back I developed catastrophic tinnitus and hyperacusis. I couldn't eat, went from about 160 to 135 pounds if I recall correctly, couldn't sleep, and just about lost it, sobbing... I was able to play acoustic guitar and would do so for about 6 hours a day, kind of like a meditative chant. My very quiet mini-split air conditioner was WAY too loud. I could hear the inner electronic workings of a CD player, and it was as loud as the music.

One of the approaches that seemed to help me was Ayurveda. I received Panchakarma treatment, still take a formula prescribed by an Ayurvedic physician, and also received craniosacral treatment, acupuncture (I tried about 8 acupuncturists before finding one that actually made a difference), and hypnosis (with a person specifically trained to work with tinnitus). I also use Klonopin and added Gabapentin to the regimen about 4 years back. I don't know if any of the above could help with noxacusis, but in the case where maybe, just maybe, it might be helpful, I decided to post my experience.

The hyperacusis is almost entirely gone, although I am still sensitive to intense sounds (alarms, dental drill...) and those can cause spikes in my tinnitus. After an acoustic trauma (fire alarm) this past October, my tinnitus has gone from moderate to severe on most days. But things are still way better than when this all first hit.

Crossing my fingers that you find some relief. Happy to answer questions on specifics.
 

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