Right, because of the patent. I would do what @ploughna told you to do.I just messaged my MD about it and she said:
"Not commercially available in that formulation."
So it's not available for market?
Right, because of the patent. I would do what @ploughna told you to do.I just messaged my MD about it and she said:
"Not commercially available in that formulation."
So it's not available for market?
I found a compounding pharmacy near me that said they had it. If I can get a doctor to prescribe it, they could make it up for me? Or they couldn't because of the patent?Right, because of the patent.
So if I find a doctor that would prescribe it, I could get the proper formulation made at my compounding pharmacy?Travis, Oxytocin is worth a try if you can get your hands on it - but could be hit or miss regarding efficacy. There are quite a few compounding pharmacies that can make it - it's more a matter of finding a doctor willing to prescribe.
I'll update on my progress when I have new news.
Dubious location? New York University Medical? You serious bro?I see this going absolutely nowhere. Another small trial, dubious location and study. Sounds ridiculous.
@Travis Henry, I'm not trying to be rude but I told you, you should call the clinical trial location and ask them. The compounding pharmacy wouldn't have access to the exact same formula.I found a compounding pharmacy near me that said they had it. If I can get a doctor to prescribe it, they could make it up for me? Or they couldn't because of the patent?
So either way it won't be available because of the patent?
Hi @David1260.He prescribed it from a compounding pharmacy. I take 3 sprays a day. I find it reduces the tinnitus to a level where it doesn't bother me. I am so pleased at the result, as I had been suffering with tinnitus.
What part of "he prescribed it" are you confused by?Did you need a prescription, or am I able to get this OTC?
My understanding is that some products can be prescribed, but can also be bought OTC. I think Adam's question is legit. I'm interested in whether it can be purchased OTC as well, perhaps from a reputable online pharmacy. I hate going to doctors begging for a prescription.What part of "he prescribed it" are you confused by?
As I understand it, OTC and Rx are distinct statuses--never the twain shall meet. Complicating life, the spray requires refrigeration, so shipping needs to deal with that...My understanding is that some products can be prescribed, but can also be bought OTC. I think Adam's question is legit. I'm interested in whether it can be purchased OTC as well, perhaps from a reputable online pharmacy. I hate going to doctors begging for a prescription.
That's great to hear. Are you following the study protocol or your doctor's normal protocol?My doctor and I have tried 5 different supplements in an attempt to make my tinnitus tolerable.
After finding a link to this study on Oxytocin and tinnitus, I sent it to my doctor and asked him if I could try this.
He prescribed it from a compounding pharmacy. I take 3 sprays a day. I find it reduces the tinnitus to a level where it doesn't bother me. I am so pleased at the result, as I had been suffering with tinnitus.
@David1260, appreciate if you can share the dosage! Any thoughts on what caused your tinnitus?Could you confirm that you are using the high dose (45IU/45 units of 0.1 mL for 38 ML) or the standard dose?
The standard Oxytocin will do zero. It's a patented formula that needs storing at low temperature.I ordered Oxytocin through eBay. The posting assures that this spray is the real, unadulterated deal.
I'm like the gold prospector who has never found a vein but nonetheless never stops prospecting.
I'll report on whether I received any improvement (it will take 4-6 days for delivery).
Amusingly, the Ad shows a barely clad Babe and Stud embracing in hot foreplay.
If it does nothing more than me horny, then the end (the purchase) will still justify the means (and it is less than $40.00).
You can't find it as it's protected by a 'patent'.What is the actual formula or where can I find it?
;(You can't find it as it's protected by a 'patent'.
I've exchanged emails with one of the researchers. They said that first impression study 1 was good, but results of study 2 controlled were not that good. I replied to that but never received a response. Study 1 showed progress over an extended period of time (10 weeks) while study 2 was a 24 hour period. Why your follow up controlled study would be based on a short time horizon doesn't resonate with me. It makes ZERO sense to me how that is indicative of failure and quite frankly smells a little funny to me, but I'm not a clinical researcher. Hope this helps.I recall that a few years ago this was announced by a lab in Sao Paulo as being the real, potential breakthrough cure. It was briefly reported on by the News Media, and then never heard from again. Were the results frankly no more than placebo - generated? I'm curious about why, if this is in fact a breakthrough treatment, every ENT Doctor seems to still maintain that there is nothing that can be done about this.
However, thanks very much @David1260 for piquing my curiosity, and converting me into being a Man On A Mission. This is one avenue that may have greater potential than all of the other Quack Supplements I have tried.
I verified that my local pharmacy is in fact a "compounding pharmacy". The question remains, can my Primary Care Doctor prescribe this, or do I have to go to an ENT or a Psychiatrist?
What @David1260 has that I cannot find is a Doctor who is willing to take the time to experiment with several substances. Like @Lane, I also hate going begging to a Doctor for a prescription; most have been so arrogant that they have shut me down for proposing a method that they were not aware of, and utterly uninterested in trying anything further.
Thanks for your comment @Lane. That is exactly what I was thinking because I have some private prescriptions for eye drops that are also available OTC. A quick Google search for Oxytocin made it look like it was available via online pharmacies without a prescription, and so I asked the question. I didn't expect such a rude response. Perhaps I'm just not as bright as @David1260.What part of "he prescribed it" are you confused by?
It's certainly odd. Why change the parameters that made Phase 1 successful?I've exchanged emails with one of the researchers. They said that first impression study 1 was good, but results of study 2 controlled were not that good. I replied to that but never received a response. Study 1 showed progress over an extended period of time (10 weeks) while study 2 was a 24 hour period. Why your follow up controlled study would be based on a short time horizon doesn't resonate with me. It makes ZERO sense to me how that is indicative of failure and quite frankly smells a little funny to me, but I'm not a clinical researcher. Hope this helps.
Tinnitus Treatment with Oxytocin: A Pilot Study
I presume the love hormone lost its lust?This is a big year. We should get results from Cognosetta (update hopefully), Shore, Oxytocin, OTO-313, Dirk De Ridder, and Hamid Djalilian. Also, an objective measure of tinnitus is likely just around the corner which should lead to an explosion in additional research.
Pitocin is a drug used to induce labor. Oxytocin is a hormone that helps a new mother's milk flow. Two different things altogether.Drug: Oxytocin
The investigational product, oxytocin nasal spray (45 units/0.1mL for 38mL) is composed of: oxytocin powder (0.3080g), magnesium chloride crystals (2.3100g), citric acid anhydrous gran. (0.1080g), sodium citrate powder (2.1500g), sterile water for irrigation (38.000mL), and Pcca Mucolox liquid base (3.8000mL). Subjects will be asked to self-administer the study medication with 1 puff in one nostril 4 times per day
Other Name: Pitocin
This ain't it?
Pitocin® is a synthetic version of oxytocin.Pitocin is a drug used to induce labor. Oxytocin is a hormone that helps a new mother's milk flow. Two different things altogether.
Yes that's true it is a synthetic version of a natural hormone. It's given intravenously to induce and control labor, usually the IV remains in place throughout the entire labor until close to delivery. In women whose labor is slowing down, the Pitocin is increased and speeds it up, for example. Oxytocin is a natural hormone made in the mother's body during breastfeeding and induces a bonding of love between the mother and baby, that's why it's nicknamed "the love hormone." If a new mother is having problems "letting down" her milk (letting it flow), the Oxytocin is prescribed as a nasal spray (because that's the only way it will cross the blood-brain barrier). Certified Lactation Consultants (IBCLC) used to be able to get this pretty easily to use with their clients, but are no longer able to obtain it. I'm a birth doula, postpartum doula and lactation consultant, although I'm not an IBCLC, just a CBC.Pitocin® is a synthetic version of oxytocin.
Actually, Pitocin is just the brand name of synthetic Oxytocin. Kinda like how Advil is the brand name of ibuprofen or Tylenol is the brand name of acetaminophen. I'm a pharmacist and know this.Pitocin is a drug used to induce labor. Oxytocin is a hormone that helps a new mother's milk flow. Two different things altogether.
Terminated.From today: There is an update about Oxytocin on the ClinicalTrials.gov page:
High Dose Oxytocin Nasal Spray for Treatment of Tinnitus
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Didn't someone say the Primary Investigator (PI) retired?Terminated.