- Aug 14, 2013
- 2,455
- Tinnitus Since
- Resolved since 2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Unknown (medication, head injury)
Ask your Chinese sources.not to mention its illegal so how do you buy it ?
They are prohibited by law to manufacture illegal recreational drugs - which is punishable by death penalty in ChinaAsk your Chinese sources.
massive amounts of schedule-I hallucinogenic drugs are manufactured by custom design/build shops in china (first google hit: http://manufacturer.ec21.com/2cb.html) -- yes, this is punishable by the death penalty in china... except that when it's being produced for export only and the wheels of the state can be greased with some of the profits, it's apparently safe enough to be lucrative.They are prohibited by law to manufacture illegal recreational drugs - which is punishable by death penalty in China
What's there to ask ?
it's not massive. Accounts I've seen from people who claim to have exported psychedelic research analogs from China, are in the couple-kilos-at-a-time range. There was also a VICE expose a couple years ago that came to more or less the same conclusion.I see a whole list of countries including the USA in this link...
The kind of labs which is making huge money producing "massive" amounts of those LSD drugs aren't going to waste their time working on a small order of an anti-epileptic drug for a few thousand bucks.
China or not this isn't the same type of labs we are talking about here.
One of the labs that we visited in China was producing enormous quantities of anintermediate for an experimental antiandrogen designed by the pharmaceutical companyRoussel Uclaf. Presumably, it would have no psychoactive effect and was being sold on the grey market to treat androgenic alopecia [a common hair loss condition]. So they're making drugs for baldness, acne, synthetic cannabinoids, antibiotics, ketaminederivatives—all in the same labs. The people that are producing them are not particularly concerned with the end product or who's using it. They're chemists, not moralists.
Crazy. But did the people there know that they were making chemicals that aredesigned for abuse overseas? Or did they not even realize it?
I think the actual chemists doing the benchwork in many instances did not know. Thesynthetic cannabinoids aren't being sold or used domestically in China and the chemists certainly weren't using the drugs themselves, so if they did know, it was in some very abstract capacity. The people that owned the labs who were overseeing the business end had a better idea, but even they may not fully understand beyond the market demand.
There was one lab we visited that was doing contract work for Pfizer, and I asked them if they could offer a chemical called MDMB-FUBINACA that had been implicated in a lot of deaths in Russia, and the chemist that was working there scolded me for even asking about it because she was following the news and was aware that it had been implicated in these fatal poisonings. So that was a definite exception—she knew how the compounds were being used and had concerns about their toxicity.
I wondered whether a possible hint was given in this passage from the second of the links posted by ATEOS:I mean, it alters your perception of reality so I could see how it could alter your perception of tinnitus.