ti-ex Tinnitus Therapy
- Thread starter Michael Larsen
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MemberYou are correct. I don't know the performance of the new Tiex machine and I have no intention of buying it. l have been using the original version twice a day for 7 years and find it very helpful.
Michael
- Aug 14, 2013
- 2,455
- Tinnitus Since
- Resolved since 2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Unknown (medication, head injury)
Michael... why would you be using a device for the past 7 years if you are already habituated to your tinnitus?
Makes no sense. Perhaps the twice-daily device therapy coincides with your reading of the latest flat-Earth society newsletter??? That would be my guess...
- Mar 6, 2018
- 496
- Tinnitus Since
- Jan 20/2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Most likely accoustic trauma
Doesn't have to be...just because the medical establishment doesn't give it thumbs up, doesn't mean it can't work.
I'm pretty sure, that there are politics, money, conflicts of interests at play...etc.
This is why I chose to believe my own judgement on this one.
Since magnet therapy is well known and since our brains are basically consisting of chemicals, that run on electrical impulses, I think that electromagnetic stimulation can work if applied correctly.
There are independent studies attached to the TIEX website, which ilustrate that indeed there can be good results achieved using electrical stimulation...
I highly doubt those studies are scams, as they list all the sources, procedures etc..
In other words, just because the corrupt medical mafia, hacks like Jestraboff and the government don't endorse something, doesn't mean that it is necessarily bad...sometimes on the contrary.
- Aug 29, 2015
- 7,069
- Tinnitus Since
- 2004
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Meniere's Disease
@Michael Leigh,
I would like to ask you politely if without using the Tiex would you have still habituated without it with TRT ?
This is just to let other members know if both are still helpful on there own in your opinion as all opinions are as important.
love glynis
Edit @Michael Leigh
I know TRT helped you greatly and I'm sure many others and it is a option for tinnitus sufferers and that is a good thing.
I know Tiex helps you also and for that reason I know your views are genuine as known you a long time but I don't know alot about it and would be great to know if you would find it as good without TRT.
I would like to ask you politely if without using the Tiex would you have still habituated without it with TRT ?
This is just to let other members know if both are still helpful on there own in your opinion as all opinions are as important.
love glynis
Edit @Michael Leigh
I know TRT helped you greatly and I'm sure many others and it is a option for tinnitus sufferers and that is a good thing.
I know Tiex helps you also and for that reason I know your views are genuine as known you a long time but I don't know alot about it and would be great to know if you would find it as good without TRT.
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It seems that every thing worked on you
I have had tinnitus for as long as you @Stakovic It can be a complex condition to treat. It also comes in many forms and intensities and no two people will experience it the same. Please read my post below titled: My experience with tinnitus. It covers the period from 2008 to 2015. At the time of writing it I was reluctant to mention that I used Tiex. Quite a few people asked me for the name of the device I was using. I made it clear that it doesn't help everyone. In tests carried out by scientists which can be accessed on the main Tiex website, it helped 55% of people. It either cured the tinnitus or reduced the level of it. There is the opportunity to rent the product for a period of 4 months. The inventor says that if a person doesn't notice any improvement within this time then it is unlikely to work. Tiex can be returned for a partial refund. I began noticing improvement after 6 months of use.
All the best
Michael
I have variable tinnitus, which can be: silent, mild, moderate and severe. It no longer reaches the "extreme" levels I refer to in the post below: My experience with tinnitus. Hopefully it will give you some reassurance, that even when tinnitus is severe it can improve with time, and habituation will happen with the right help.
I believe my twenty years experience living with tinnitus qualifies me for saying this. Just the same as others in this forum that have had tinnitus for longer and also to those that have had it for less time.
Even though tinnitus is a common condition, I believe it is only those that have experienced intrusive tinnitus to the point where these levels have been sustained for a period of time and they've had to seek help at ENT will know how debilitating it can be. Anyone that hasn't been through this process won't have any understanding of what severe tinnitus is like or how it can affect one's daily life and emotional well-being. For this reason, most Hearing Therapists and Audiologists, that practice tinnitus counselling, were either born with tinnitus or acquired it at some time in their life.
Health professionals that are dedicated to helping their tinnitus patients will know about the anatomy of the ear but won't have a clue of what this condition is like unless they've experienced it, as my ENT consultant once told me.
My Experience With Tinnitus
I have had bilateral tinnitus for twenty years and have learnt to habituate to it twice. Anyone that would like to read my early years with the condition I will be posting an article titled: Advice for tinnitus newbies and beyond at a later date.
My story covers the last seven years, when my tinnitus increased to insurmountable levels for reasons I'm not sure of. I was listening to music on my HI-FI late one evening and turned up the volume, although I didn't believe the sound was set too high. I was listening to a Haydn symphony but the next day my tinnitus returned with a vengeance; it became loud and very intrusive for many weeks. I returned to ENT for further treatment and started a second course of TRT (tinnitus retraining therapy) that lasted over two years.
Although I had some success with TRT for the second time my tinnitus didn't return to its previous manageable levels. I was left with large fluctuations in its intensity that could be variable on a daily basis from: Silent, mild, moderate, extremely severe.
My previous experience with tinnitus had taught me to try and have a positive outlook on life no matter how dire the circumstances. I learned this back in the days as a tinnitus newbie, and got inspiration from more experienced people at forums that were seasoned to tinnitus. Having a positive outlook helped me through some difficult times and I believed it would do so again.
I tried to remain optimistic that my T would return to how it once was but in October 2010 for the first time I began having doubts. I sensed my T had reached a plateau and things were no longer improving and depression started to set in. I made an appointment to see my Consultant and explained my concerns, and asked her to please be candid about my condition. I was informed that in all her years of practicing Audiovestibular medicine, she had only met one other patient with tinnitus as severe as mine. She explained the large fluctuations in my tinnitus, almost on a daily basis was not typical of the condition but said she wouldn't give up on treating me. Her last words gave me a glimmer of hope.
I was prescribed clonazapam and told it is some times given to patients with severe tinnitus as it can help. I was advised to only take it when my T is very intrusive. If it is taken regularly the body quickly habituates to it so higher doses are needed to get the same effect. I was also told some people can become addicted to it and the side effects can be unpleasant. I found clonazapam helpful but didn't take it regularly as I didn't want dependency to set in. My GP monitored me closely with the amount of medication I was taking.
The fluctuations in my tinnitus remained and at times daily life became a struggle. When my T was moderate I could cope due to my previous years of habituation. However, when it was severely intrusive I had to take my clonazapam and go to bed whatever the time of day, as I just couldn't function. My social life was non-existent and at times my positivity became very low. I was an avid reader and hadn't read a book in over two years.
In March 2011, I began using a product that treats tinnitus. Over the following year the intensity of my T gradually reduced, but I must stress it was slow. I began taking clonazapam less and gradually returned to reading. It used to take me up to three weeks to read a novel due to the fluctuating intensity of my tinnitus; I can now finish a book in four to five days. My social life improved and I was able to carry out remodelling my house.
Christmas 2011, I saw my Consultant and mentioned the severity of my tinnitus was reducing although I still do get bad days but coping better without always having to take medication. I asked if it's possible that I can remain as an outpatient instead of being discharged, just in case my T flares up again. I have a very good rapport with my Dr who readily agreed to my request.
My Dr was very pleased with my improvement and asked what had brought about the change. At that time I didn't think it necessary to mention the product I have been using, as I believe it is a combination of things. Having a caring and understanding GP, Hearing Therapist and ENT Dr. Medication has also helped and also having a positive attitude and the belief things will get better. I thanked my Consultant and Hearing Therapist for all their help over the last four years. More than once I have made a phone call or written a letter to ENT and they have seen me in clinic.
The tinnitus device that I've been using I believe has helped a lot, and think it right to mention I have been using something. However, I have chosen not to mention its name as the inventor states it won't help everyone. I took a chance as I was in a desperate situation last year and prepared to try anything. However, I did do my research and read at Forums, that it helped other tinnitus sufferers but not all. I am pleased it has helped me. I wasn't looking to be cured, if my tinnitus remained at a moderate level and even spiked occasionally I can live happily with that (habituate). Only when it was severely loud and very intrusive on a daily basis at times, did it become a problem. I haven't had to take clonazapam, as regularly there was a time I needed to take it every other day.
I would like to finish by saying: Tinnitus comes in many forms and intensities and no two people have it the same. It can be: mild, moderate, or severe. Intermittent or constant. In one ear or both. It can fluctuate or remain at a constant level. Hyperacusis (sensitivity to sound) can also be present.
Many people successfully habituate to tinnitus either with, or without treatment. This does involve acceptance and having a positive outlook on life and the condition and not to see it as a threat to your well-being.
Help is also available at an ENT clinic and each person's needs will be different. For some people their T will reduce to a level where they hardly notice it and may just require tinnitus counselling and using sound enrichment. Others may find hearing aid/s helpful. WNGs (white noise generators) are also good. In some cases medication can be prescribed. Success can also be sought using complementary medicine and/or tinnitus devices. There are really no set rules on how one reaches habituation, but I believe it is something that many people can reach in time. It must also be noted, that habituation does have its limitations for some people.
Michael
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I'd definitely take a TRT supporters opinion for a grain of salt.It seems that every thing worked on you
Which study do you see that shows a 55% success rate when using this device to treat Tinnitus?
I ask because they do mention a bunch of studies on their website, but I didn't see a single one that involves the device they sell: they are about other types of treatments, for example, with cochlear implants.
Perhaps I missed it, and if so, please point me to it.
Wait a minute, I thought all headphone use was bad . . . 
The device claims to use headphones to deliver pulsed electromagnetic fields to parts of the brain involved with tinnitus. Tinnitus can be mapped in the brain and it extends beyond the area of headphones. It does not seem that headphones over ears would be as effective as wearing a device that better targeted the specific locations . . . that is if this device actually worked. This is an old article, but it illustrates how large the area is: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-32414876
This makes me curious. MRIs rely on magnetic fields. If that is the solution, wouldn't an MRI of the brain also positively impact tinnitus?
MRIs are loud because of the magnetic fields they create. Does the headphone device make noise, too?
The device claims to use headphones to deliver pulsed electromagnetic fields to parts of the brain involved with tinnitus. Tinnitus can be mapped in the brain and it extends beyond the area of headphones. It does not seem that headphones over ears would be as effective as wearing a device that better targeted the specific locations . . . that is if this device actually worked. This is an old article, but it illustrates how large the area is: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-32414876
This makes me curious. MRIs rely on magnetic fields. If that is the solution, wouldn't an MRI of the brain also positively impact tinnitus?
MRIs are loud because of the magnetic fields they create. Does the headphone device make noise, too?
What's emitted then?
Just saw it says electromagnetic energy of some sort?
Seems highly suspect to me and no different to homeopathy and Vega machines, for example. However, if one can achieve the placebo effect, it can be a very powerful and real experience. It is not to be taken lightly as many people have dramatically positive results, for many ailments, taking nothing but sugar pills. Our will to believe is unbelievably powerful and demonstrates, perfectly, how beautifully intertwined the mind and body are. It's a perfect harmony. This strong bond also explains physcosomatic symptoms, and the nocebo effect.
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HI @Ed209
I fully understand your scepticism towards Tiex. All I will say is that I know it works for me. I have been using it for 7 years and it helped me to get my life back along with TRT treatment and alternative medicines that I tried. My post: My experience with tinnitus, explains it all. When I'm using Tiex I hear no noise/sound through the headphones but when my tinnitus is: mild, moderate or severe and I'm wearing the headphones, the tinnitus is affected by the electromagnetic signal that is being emitted through them. When my tinnitus is completely "silent," there is no feelings or sensation through the headset.
On a number of occasions I have reduced or stopped using Tiex and noticed after a while my tinnitus begins to increase. I now use it twice every day.
All the best
Michael
- Oct 17, 2017
- 644
- Tinnitus Since
- 2005
- Cause of Tinnitus
- unknown - possibly hereditary
The website for this device says that inner ear hair cells can regenerate. Is this true?
In order to understand how ti-ex works, it is important to realize that the hair cells in the inner ear can regenerate.
The ti-ex Tinnitus Therapy Device works on the principle that, in tinnitus, the energy flow to some of the hair cells is disrupted, affecting their ability to regenerate. This leads to uncontrolled electrical discharge and to tinnitus.
ti-ex is therefore particularly helpful in so-called "cochlear" or inner ear tinnitus, which affects many tinnitus sufferers.
http://www.tinnitus.cc/en/therapy-device/how-it-works/index.php
In order to understand how ti-ex works, it is important to realize that the hair cells in the inner ear can regenerate.
The ti-ex Tinnitus Therapy Device works on the principle that, in tinnitus, the energy flow to some of the hair cells is disrupted, affecting their ability to regenerate. This leads to uncontrolled electrical discharge and to tinnitus.
ti-ex is therefore particularly helpful in so-called "cochlear" or inner ear tinnitus, which affects many tinnitus sufferers.
http://www.tinnitus.cc/en/therapy-device/how-it-works/index.php
The fact it says that is absurd. It would be like finding a company that sells 'specialised glasses' claiming that our vision can regenerate. Once pseudoscience, or any other bullshit science is introduced, I immediately lose all respect. I will disregard any products that attempt to pull the wool over people's eyes.
Of course, I assume this thing isn't cheap either? What's the diffference between this and one of those PEMF devices you can buy in drugstores? Why not put one of those over your cochlea instead as they are cheap? Not that I'm recommending this of course.
Ecip
Member
- Nov 8, 2015
- 686
- Tinnitus Since
- 4.11.2015
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Still unknown... possibly noise exposure?
Hm.. 190 euros for 3 months to try it out. It's not that bad. I think I might give it a try. I'm not sure why everyone is hacking on @Michael Leigh, if he says it works for him, who are you to judge differently?
Everyone's tinnitus reacts and acts differently. If he found something that works for him and it kicks his tinnitus to the proverbial curb, it's well worth 300 euro.https://www.tinnitustalk.com/members/michael-leigh.3134/
Everyone's tinnitus reacts and acts differently. If he found something that works for him and it kicks his tinnitus to the proverbial curb, it's well worth 300 euro.https://www.tinnitustalk.com/members/michael-leigh.3134/
Hi @Ecip and well said.
I am sitting here laughing because anyone would think I'm forcing Tiex on them. This was precisely the reason I never mentioned the name of the product I was using in my original post back in 2015. I didn't rent it I bought it outright, because I was in such a bad way with my tinnitus. I took a chance and if it didn't work then I would have to accept it. I began noticing improvement after 6 months. Two months longer than what the inventor advises if a person is going to have any improvement then it should take no more than 4 months.
This is also the reason I advise people that are having any kind of tinnitus treatment, not to mention it in tinnitus forums.
Best of luck if you try Tiex Ecip.
All the best
Michael
@Ecip
Please keep this to yourself and don't tell anyone. I am so sure Tiex helps me that I bought a second unit as a backup.
Take care
Michael
- Aug 29, 2015
- 7,069
- Tinnitus Since
- 2004
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Meniere's Disease
Tiex at the moment we can not see any good reviews about it so it would not be right to recommend it nor do the BTA.
It is not anything against @Michael Leigh and wish him well if he finds it of help...
let us know how you get on with it if you decide to give it a go....
love glynis
Ecip
Member
- Nov 8, 2015
- 686
- Tinnitus Since
- 4.11.2015
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Still unknown... possibly noise exposure?
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