Tibetan Medicine Works for Tinnitus — Test This Supplement!

#123
@Juan Carlos....Good Luck on the Trobalt!...(y)

@amandine ....I've been taking Agar 35 and Semde for 16 days and Bimala for 5 days. I have not experienced any change in my T nor any lasting improvement (only a few hours) in my mood or anxiety. I have enough of the products for another two months of testing. I'll update my status in a couple of weeks or sooner should I experience some positive changes that seem to be worth reporting.
 
#124
I took some Agar capsules last night and it was really hard on my throat i felt like i couldn't swallow, it wasn't pleasant at all kinda made me worried that i took them the wrong way. Am thinking of discontinuing it, unless someone tells me different way of taking them, or least what i can do to ease the discomfort on my throat. I was thinking of opening the capsules and dissolving in water

Thoughts anyone thanks.. This forum has been a lifesaver

Kudos to everyone.
 
#126
@amandine

Still waiting amandine. Apparently Ireland is in the nether regions of the known universe when it comes to delivery.

Still at least I have nothing negative to report. In fact something positive.

I had my second Craniosacral/Rolfing session today with an absolute Angel in Dublin.

My anxiety levels are 3% of the level they were when I went in and T is down 40% with my reaction to said T down about 90%.

Julian Cowan Hill may well be on to something. If I can get my nervous system to settle - Throw in some natural habituation and sprinkle in some Sound Therapy and a Xanax once a week I could be on to a winner. Well I may have a better quality of life while I wait for AUT000063 lets put it that way.

T is untameable - Of that I am practically certain. It does by and large its own thing. Like a raging bull in the back of a lorry. All you can do is drive the Lorry to the nicest places on offer and try and blank out the racket coming
from the back of the truck. Occasionally you may get to leave the Lorry and have a quick picnic by an exceptional waterfall before heading back to the truck for some shut eye.

We're all in this together. Its tough it beats you down. It follows no logical pattern. All we can do is make sure we're above ground when the cure comes and if it doesn't come its time to buy a barrel of trobalt head to Vegas for 4 weeks and go for a spin out to the Grand Canyon Thelma and Louise style.

Now Time for a relaxing film followed by a nice hot bath and 8 hours sleep (Julian Cowan Style :))

R
 
#127
RCP1 said:
@amandine

Still waiting amandine. Apparently Ireland is in the nether regions of the known universe when it comes to delivery.

Still at least I have nothing negative to report. In fact something positive.

I had my second Craniosacral/Rolfing session today with an absolute Angel in Dublin.

My anxiety levels are 3% of the level they were when I went in and T is down 40% with my reaction to said T down about 90%.

Julian Cowan Hill may well be on to something. If I can get my nervous system to settle - Throw in some natural habituation and sprinkle in some Sound Therapy and a Xanax once a week I could be on to a winner. Well I may have a better quality of life while I wait for AUT000063 lets put it that way.

T is untameable - Of that I am practically certain. It does by and large its own thing. Like a raging bull in the back of a lorry. All you can do is drive the Lorry to the nicest places on offer and try and blank out the racket coming
from the back of the truck. Occasionally you may get to leave the Lorry and have a quick picnic by an exceptional waterfall before heading back to the truck for some shut eye.

We're all in this together. Its tough it beats you down. It follows no logical pattern. All we can do is make sure we're above ground when the cure comes and if it doesn't come its time to buy a barrel of trobalt head to Vegas for 4 weeks and go for a spin out to the Grand Canyon Thelma and Louise style.

Now Time for a relaxing film followed by a nice hot bath and 8 hours sleep (Julian Cowan Style :))

R
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I'm glad to hear your anxiety and reaction levels are down man. I'm thinking of going down the Julian Cowan Hill route myself.

I agree with your "we're all in this together" comment, I'm so glad I discovered this forum and see we are getting new members everyday who we can also support.
 
#128
@Andrew

Going down that route can only help. Ultimately we need a drug to help us. Until then we need to cope with life.
Life is tough enough already without this. Controlling your reactions can only help things settle. Theres no quick fix.
Patience and perseverance is key.
 
#130
It's been nearly a week for me, no changes to t, maybe I feel bit better anxiety wise but sleep still an issue and t not better at all.
Will continue for another few weeks.
 
#131
valeri said:
It's been nearly a week for me, no changes to t, maybe I feel bit better anxiety wise but sleep still an issue and t not better at all.
Will continue for another few weeks.
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Thank you for reporting. Hoping that in the next few weeks you get some relief.
 
#133
I have a great method for taking pills and capsules. I use it for everything:

Rather than putting the capsules into your mouth and then trying to swallow them down with water, put the water in first, tip your head back, drop in the capsules, and swallow. Often when you load the capsules into your mouth and try to swallow them, the outer coating of the capsule starts to dissolve and they stick to your mouth or throat. With my method, the water washes down the whole batch with no sticking. I can take all kinds of pills and vitamins with this method and never have problems.

I agree with Knightofknots that Agar 35 has changed my sleep patterns. I have been waking up in a very nice, relaxed way which is quite unusual. Also, my T is lower than before I started, although it is very difficult to tell exactly how much. At the very least I don't seem to mind it as much.
 
#134
Patrick@SG said:
Ok, update. I increased my dosage to 2 in the evenings since the start of this week. I take them about 1 hr after dinner. (coincidently, my high pitched T always gets louder in the evenings). There seems to be some positive effect. My T seems to be slightly quieter. I would gauge a reduction of 30%-40% compared to previously. I don't experience any other side effects (like weird dreams or being more calm). Looks good so far. I will continue with more updates
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Hi, just an update -

Its been a month since I have been taking Agar 35 (2 pills 1 hr after dinner). It seems to help lower the volume of my T. But if I try to listen for it, its still there, but softer now. I also ordered Bimala recently and have started to take 2 pills in the morning, but sad to say, it seems to counter the effects of Agar 35 for me. I am hearing my T more now. (for your info, I hear 14 mhz tone ringing in both ears). I think I will stop taking Bimala and see if it will help.

Hope the rest of your guys get ideal results from Agar 35 & Bimala/Semde
 
#135
@valeri

please could you post (hope u dont mind) how you are finding your experiences with these tibetan meds? Others are posting on here some positive results so wondered how u are finding it now? thanks ever so much

@Patrick@SG

Thanks for positing and sounds good. Please could you say why or how you got T please? thanks
 
#138
Well, I've been taking 2 Bimala in the day and 2 Agar-35 at night for about 2 weeks now and there hasn't been any change in tinnitus so far - my T = ~1400hz left and right ear and the more troublesome ~14000hz; left ear/middle of head.

I do find that I'm dreaming more - but they're not very vivid. I seem to only catch them as I'm waking up, whereby they soon fade, and become forgotten faster than an X-Factor finalist.. :oldman:
 
#139
User Update:

I've been taking Agar 35 and Semde for six weeks and Bimala for four weeks. There's been no change in my T condition.

My T condition was caused by prolonged exposure to very loud noise levels. Four years in the engine room of a submarine and many years operating diesel locomotives. My T is "well entrenched" as some describe a long-term T condition. More than 30 years.

Perhaps they are more likely to help T conditions that are the result of other causes and short-term T conditions (under 18 months).
 
#140
I just wanted to provide an update, since for many weeks now I have been contemplating taking Agar 35, though at my acupuncturist's insistence, he wanted to make sure I wasn't on any hardcore prescription drugs (like prednisone) before starting an herbal routine.

My first attempt last night -- I took 2 pills of Agar 35 about 15 mins before bed, 3-4 hours after I had finished eating. And the results were extremely positive -- for my sleep. Not much of a difference, yet, on my Tinnitus, but I generally feel much better rested (and within 15-20 mins of taking the 2 Agar-35 pills from Siddhi Energetics, I felt very, very sleepy and passed right out). I also don't remember waking up explicitly last night, though I am sure I tossed and turned as has been my sleeping habit for the past few years. I had very vivid dreams, though like all dreams, I can't for the life of me remember what they were. I awoke feeling refreshed, but the Tinnitus was still there.

I intend to take Agar 35 for at least a couple of weeks to see how my sleep patterns continue. I have not explored Bimala, Semde, or any other energetic supplement, though there are strong reports that combinative herbal therapy and not just isolated Agar 35 therapy, may prove instrumental in helping improve tinnitus.
 
#141
Just a quick update here: I've been taking Agar-35 for several nights now, and it hasn't really had any impact on my Tinnitus. I have been enjoying more restful sleep, but I wouldn't say it's prevented me from waking up in the middle of the night or anything like that -- I still toss and turn. I just dream more vividly and generally feel a bit more refreshed.
 
#142
engineerLA said:
Hi folks, several of you have read my previous write up on supplements and protocols I have been testing.

I found another pair of supplements that seems to work really well for Tinnitus. It's from the Tibetan medicine tradition.

In Tibetan medicine there are different kinds of energy in the body. When they become imbalanced they can lead to what is called a "Wind disorder" (in Tibetan this is called "Lung" pronounced "Loong").

Often people who do a lot of meditation, or intellectual thinking work, are more susceptible to wind imbalances.

Basically wind imbalance causes energy to rush upwards into the head, and this leads to symptoms of anxiety, thinking too much, and problems with the eyes, ears, scalp, and nervous system. This can include tinnitus, tingling in the extremities, feeling jumpy, insomnia, or in extreme cases it can lead to mental illness.

The traditional methods for treating wind disorder include a diet of meat, gravy, and heavy grounding foods like dark green veggies, beef stew, lamb, etc. No hot spices, garlic, onions. No stimulants like caffeine, chocolate, sugar, etc.. Also generally one is advised not to generate too much sweat during exercise, and to get good regular sleep.

But most importantly, Tibetan herbal medicine is very effective, in particular here are two supplements that are both safe and effective.

I have tried them both and am finding very noticeable reduction in T after using them for a bit.

This supplement is best for use during the daytime, and for people who are often warm or hot in general. I have noticed that it seems to markedly reduce my T after taking it. I also feel more relaxed and at peace, and with less T, I also feel grounded and able to think straight again! It's quite relaxing and you will like it, I'm sure:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GKYMBW/

This supplement helps with sleep and insomnia, and is also good to take during the day for people who tend to feel more cold than hot, or have cold or clammy hands and feet (people with thyroid issues for example, and also very often women in general feel colder, so this is good for them):
http://www.siddhienergetics.com/products/bimala

The supplements are meant to be taken with warm water -- just break it in your mouth with some hot water and swallow.

If you want to learn more about the theory behind this, read this:
http://www.itmonline.org/arts/tibherbs.htm

And here's a book on the subject:
http://shop.fpmt.org/Balanced-Mind-Balanced-Body_p_599.html

This makes perfect sense! Wind disorder in the Tibetan medicine system is similar to kidney imbalance in Chinese medicine, which is said to be the cause of Tinnitus.

A regimen of the above Tibetan supplements will help, and could be enhanced by doing acupuncture as well to treat kidney-liver-gallbladder imbalance, which are related to the same issues. But starting with these supplements would be a good first step.

I'm testing them for 3 months - taking every day. If anyone else wants to join me and report back, that would be great. I will say that after taking Agar-35 I do feel a definite reduction in T today.
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As would make sense, this is very similar to the Ayurvedic approach. I've ordered the two compounds you mentioned and I will see if they make a difference . I am already taking Ayurvedic herbs but my gut feeling is that these two will complement what I already take . If I do notice a change in tinnitus I will post .
 
#143
RCP1 said:
Julian Cowan Hill may well be on to something. If I can get my nervous system to settle
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Couldn't agree more. I also think he is on to something.
 
#148
I have noticed that people write anything and many companies selling all sorts idiotic things are everywhere on the internet regarding Tinnitus. I have also read many studies that seem like they were written by kindergarten kids. I feel the pain and frustration that Tinnitus brings to someones life. This problem must be taken more serious by medical Doctors and Hospitals. Tinnitus can be very debilitating.
 
#149
Edwin R. said:
I have noticed that people write anything and many companies selling all sorts idiotic things are everywhere on the internet regarding Tinnitus. I have also read many studies that seem like they were written by kindergarten kids. I feel the pain and frustration that Tinnitus brings to someones life. This problem must be taken more serious by medical Doctors and Hospitals. Tinnitus can be very debilitating.
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Yes and a significant problem is that these companies selling quack products (which do nothing for tinnitus) use a cover such as "I'm a tinnitus sufferer for 10 years, this product -link here- helped me so much" in an effort to make others think they are not affiliated with the company selling the product, when they are! Shameless. These people deserve tinnitus themselves.
 

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