Tinnitus After Loud Music (Max Volume for Seconds)

Havel

Member
Author
Nov 27, 2020
6
Sweden
Tinnitus Since
05/2020
Cause of Tinnitus
Loud noise
Hello,

I wrote much of this in another thread, but I thought I should probably make a thread about it here, and add a few details. I have been reading this forum for months, and have learned a lot from it, even if sometimes it also made me depressed to read some of the stories here.

My tinnitus started early summer this year, in May. I accidentally played music on max volume. I only played for seconds before turning it off, because it was uncomfortably loud, possibly the loudest music I've ever heard... despite the speakers being small. (To be more specific, it was a track played on the site Bandcamp, which has no volume control.) I also suspect the audio track contained a lot of high frequency content. I didn't think more of it, until a couple of hours later, when suddenly I heard a tone in my left ear. Almost immediately I also noticed that certain things didn't sound right, such as running water. After a couple of minutes, the tone changed into a different sound, more difficult to describe, but somewhat similar to sizzling. I also started hearing other sounds, such as the sound of air escaping, and crickets (the crickets eventually and mysteriously disappeared). During the next couple of days, I kept hoping the sounds would go away, but they didn't. When I went outside, I noticed I had developed some sensitivity to sound, i.e. hyperacusis (which thankfully went away after a while, although not completely). A very mentally difficult period began that lasted for several months.

I visited an audiologist weeks later, who found I had lost hearing on the highest measured frequencies in the left ear. But I didn't receive any kind of help, other than information and an admission that "they don't really know how tinnitus works". The GP I had visited earlier was unprofessional, joked around and didn't take my situation seriously, when I was very anxious. I had to insist on a referral.

After about a month I also started to occasionally hear a sound in the other ear, strangely. It's a hissing, air blowing sound that comes and goes. In the left ear, the tinnitus is instead constant, and the sounds are numerous and more difficult to describe, more sounds had appeared since it first began. They fluctuate in volume and type of sound. I can't mask it, but I often have audio (low to moderate volume always) on in the background to better be able to not focus on it. Oddly, at times I instead feel better when I put on ear defenders and only hear the tinnitus.

One of the most difficult sides to this has been how much it fluctuates. From one minute to the next, the sound can go from barely perceptible (but still there) to audible over everything except the shower. Some days I hear it less, and other days I hear it more. I've wondered how I can habituate fully, considering how much it varies. After some time, I've become more used to it, and gotten better at focusing on other things, and better at coping with it. I have a few coping techniques, that I hope will suffice, but I would of course much prefer it went away completely, or at least diminished until I only heard it in a very quiet room. Certainly I feel much better mentally than in the beginning. But there have been times when I thought about how it had become almost a non-problem for me, and then it starts to bother me more again, and the sounds increase in volume, as if my brain for some reason wants to say "you're not escaping it that easily". I had such a period recently. The fluctuations are apparently random, no known pattern to it or cause, although I suspect stress or tension and noise exposure from the environment (e.g. traffic, busy public places) are factors. I'm no neuroscientist but I suppose practically anything that affects the nervous system can in theory affect tinnitus.

I am still surprised that tinnitus can be caused this easily, especially when some people are exposed to loud sounds for decades without getting tinnitus. And other people around you that don't experience the same thing don't understand what it can be like, and they forget that you even have it, because it's not visible to them.
 
But there have been times when I thought about how it had become almost a non-problem for me, and then it starts to bother me more again, and the sounds increase in volume, as if my brain for some reason wants to say "you're not escaping it that easily". I had such a period recently. The fluctuations are apparently random, no known pattern to it or cause, although I suspect stress or tension and noise exposure from the environment (e.g. traffic, busy public places) are factors. I'm no neuroscientist but I suppose practically anything that affects the nervous system can in theory affect tinnitus.

Welcome to the forum. You are quite right to say that the nervous system can in theory affect tinnitus as most of us know that high stress and anxiety tend to make tinnitus worse, or at least perceptually worse. This may have to do with when we are in that high stress level or having anxiety attacks, we may be under the influence of the limbic nervous system where the amygdala takes over the processing of the stimulus of the ringing sound. In this state we function in fight and flight mode which tends to amplify the 'threat', the ringing and all our senses zoom in on this threat. It is therefore for us to de-stress the body as much as possible via various means, so that the normal parasympathetic nervous system will return. The prefrontal cortex then will replace the amygdala in processing this stimulus of T and things will be easier to manage, as the cortex has the natural function to extinguish or reduce fearful reaction. Then T will not appear as threatening. This plus the fact that we tend to get used with the ringing over time and we then will likely see less and less extreme reaction to T enabling us to start the road on habituation. Wish you will be on the way to recovery. Take care. God bless.
 
I am still surprised that tinnitus can be caused this easily, especially when some people are exposed to loud sounds for decades without getting tinnitus. And other people around you that don't experience the same thing don't understand what it can be like, and they forget that you even have it, because it's not visible to them.
I am very sorry to see you joining the infamous club of tinnitus triggered by few seconds of loud blast from headphones. This is how I triggered my tinnitus back in 2013.

It really makes me sad and angry to see your post and others':

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/thread...buds-at-max-volume-hello-from-a-newbie.41356/
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/thread...nes-caused-my-tinnitus-acoustic-trauma.43140/

It really makes me upset that modern consumer devices are SO dangerous and no warnings are even provided. Not to mention that I really fail to comprehend why they are able to output 105-110 dB at all, I would expect that all headphones connected to regular headphone output should be capped to 85-90 dB.

It is only recently Apple has added to iPhone/iOS devices loudness capping. Still regular computers do not have such a thing, so you can ruin your ears accidentally putting volume at max. This is horrible.
 
A short update since it's now been slightly more than a year since I developed tinnitus.

Finally after waiting for it for almost a year, I did an ABR test, and the result was normal. Now there's nothing more to do than continue trying to get used to it.

Honestly I don't believe habituation is real. My tinnitus fluctuates so much, from one day to the next and during the same day, that there's no way, when it's like that, to completely filter it out or ignore it all of the time. I suppose if the sound was a relatively quiet pure tone or easily maskable then habituation would have been possible.

The best I can do is adopt a stoic attitude: yes, it's there, so what. Yes, I'd rather it wasn't there, but it's there, so the best course is to try not to dwell on it too much. Easier said than done sometimes if you are inclined by nature to ruminate: I have an internal monologue that never stops.
 
Hello, I am exactly the same as you. It's been almost a year. My tinnitus fluctuates from day to day. Some days it is depressing and unbearable (which makes me sad and tired), and other days it is manageable, allowing me to watch TV etc and it seems "calm".

The volume is not extremely loud but it remains perceptible and therefore I find it annoying.

I had a few seconds of exposure to headphones at high volume as well. No hearing loss. I'm depressed that I don't have any treatment to hope to get rid of it completely.

I don't know if it's related, but I have a lot of tension and pain in the neck and back.

I fully understand you and I really hope a treatment comes out QUICKLY (if possible).
 
Hi @Havel -

I for one would like to say thanks to you for coming back and sharing your update. A lot of historical threads I've read end rather abruptly, and I don't know how do interpret that... either they got better or just got bored of the forum!?

Comparatively speaking I haven't had severe tinnitus for very long at all, although I've always been able to hear a ringing in quiet rooms. I introduced myself on the forum and have already received a sarcastic comment... seemingly you need to have it for a very long time and/or very severely to be taken seriously and be part of the club.

Have you noticed any improvement at all? I know you say you feel like you just have to accept it, but I wonder if you've seen any reduction whatsoever? What coping mechanisms have you developed?

Thanks again.
 
I'm about 15 months in and my tinnitus barely bothers me anymore. I still think about it a decent amount but not in a way that makes me feel sad or annoyed, I just notice that it's there a lot. On the one hand, my genes must be pretty good seeing that it took 1,000-2,000 hours of music at max volume to get tinnitus, plus excessive volume from video games all the time which used to be the only thing I did. On the other hand, I got hyperacusis, whereas some people can go deaf without it. I'd be extremely careful with noise from now on because it only took under 10 hours of music at 75% or so of max volume for my hyperacusis to kick in.
 
Hi @Havel -

I for one would like to say thanks to you for coming back and sharing your update. A lot of historical threads I've read end rather abruptly, and I don't know how do interpret that... either they got better or just got bored of the forum!?

Comparatively speaking I haven't had severe tinnitus for very long at all, although I've always been able to hear a ringing in quiet rooms. I introduced myself on the forum and have already received a sarcastic comment... seemingly you need to have it for a very long time and/or very severely to be taken seriously and be part of the club.

Have you noticed any improvement at all? I know you say you feel like you just have to accept it, but I wonder if you've seen any reduction whatsoever? What coping mechanisms have you developed?

Thanks again.
Hello, if I can give you a little indication, for my part I had improvements. A decrease in intensity but temporarily. It lasts a while and then sometimes the next day it's stronger.

I have tinnitus from sound trauma although my doctor thinks that my hearing is good because of my stress.

In any case, I hear them especially in quiet, sometimes in noise too (which annoys me a lot) and especially when sleeping. All that "works" is listening to white noises, taking medication to sleep, and occupying myself as much as possible during the day so as not to focus on it.

I don't know if this is a good sign or not... I have nothing to compare my situation with anyone else's.
 
In any case, I hear them especially in quiet, sometimes in noise too (which annoys me a lot) and especially when sleeping. All that "works" is listening to white noises, taking medication to sleep, and occupying myself as much as possible during the day so as not to focus on it.

I don't know if this is a good sign or not... I have nothing to compare my situation with anyone else's.
In my experience even if your tinnitus gets worse to the point that you hear it over all noise, it's not the end of the world. For me I never habituated to my tinnitus until it got really bad and reactive to the point I heard it all the time, which forced me to start getting used to it instead of having it blocked by white noise. It made me feel really bad for a couple of months but a few months after that I've gotten to the point where it barely bothers me at all now. Not to gatekeep suffering but if you don't have hyperacusis you're doing good, avoiding further noise damage to avoid hyperacusis is the main thing to focus on.
 
In my experience even if your tinnitus gets worse to the point that you hear it over all noise, it's not the end of the world. For me I never habituated to my tinnitus until it got really bad and reactive to the point I heard it all the time, which forced me to start getting used to it instead of having it blocked by white noise. It made me feel really bad for a couple of months but a few months after that I've gotten to the point where it barely bothers me at all now. Not to gatekeep suffering but if you don't have hyperacusis you're doing good, avoiding further noise damage to avoid hyperacusis is the main thing to focus on.
Indeed, I have no hyperacusis. In any case, no ENT has found my cause. I sometimes have pain in my ears but my ENT thinks it comes "from my jaws" and not from problems in my ears. After 1 year of tinnitus, I still don't know where I am... sometimes I feel lost and I don't know what to do to shut up these critters for good.
 
Have you noticed any improvement at all? I know you say you feel like you just have to accept it, but I wonder if you've seen any reduction whatsoever? What coping mechanisms have you developed?
No reduction, but as I mentioned, it fluctuates a lot, and sometimes I barely even pay attention to it. I am still trying to figure out what, if anything, causes these fluctuations, because it's hard to believe it's completely random. One time I even woke up in the middle of the night and it was completely gone - I went to sleep 15-20 minutes later, and it had returned when I woke up. Only happened once, sadly. As for coping, it may sound cruel but I take comfort in knowing it's a common problem, and that many famous people had or have it (such as Darwin, Michelangelo, Martin Luther) and it didn't prevent them from doing great things.
 
@Havel, great to hear that you are doing better. My tinnitus also fluctuates a lot from day to day. I had more anxiety on the low days than on the high days, because on the high days I knew that it would go down again. Same as you, I was never able to figure out what causes the fluctuations. But with time the anxiety faded and now that I no longer monitor my tinnitus, it seems like the day-to-day differences seem less than before. Or it could be that I have habituated to both high and low days.
 

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