Tinnitus and Hyperacusis Have Worsened AGAIN (After Spending an Hour at a 90 dB Restaurant)

[Michael Leigh]

So you can tolerate 100 dB but you tinnitus worsened to astonishing levels where you need benzos to function some days from listening to classic music on a speaker system at a normal volume?

I tolerated 100db with ease and that is the truth. I was in a large arcade and the music was spread over a wide area. My noise trauma in 2008 I believe came from listening to classical music on my HI-FI which is in an acoustically treated listening room. I increased the volume as I've done on many occasions and noticed no ill effects. The next morning my tinnitus was noticeably louder and got progressively worse over the days and weeks ahead. My post: My experience with tinnitus, on my "started threads" explains in my detail.

I am not one hundred percent sure it was listening to the HI-FI that caused the increase in my tinnitus. The strange thing is, I did not experience any hyperacusis as I did with my first noise trauma in 1996. My hyperacusis has remained silent for 20 years.

My tinnitus is variable from: complete silence, mild, moderate, severe, and can reach extreme severe levels. When it is severe or very severe I can still do certain things but must admit it becomes very difficult after 2 or 3 days of loud intrusive tinnitus. The point I'm making. Someone that is seasoned to tinnitus or a veteran as I am, will not be climbing the walls in distress as some people do. This is not to say the noise cannot be distressing. Of course it can. Fortunately, I am able to manage my tinnitus quite well and don't always take benzo/clonazepam to calm it down as I once needed to.

Michael

 

[jasonbourne]

I tolerated 100db with ease and that is the truth. I was in a large arcade and the music was spread over a wide area. My noise trauma in 2008 I believe came from listening to classical music on my HI-FI which is in an acoustically treated listening room. I increased the volume as I've done on many occasions and noticed no ill effects. The next morning my tinnitus was noticeably louder and got progressively worse over the days and weeks ahead. My post: My experience with tinnitus, on my "started threads" explains in my detail.

I am not one hundred percent sure it was listening to the HI-FI that caused the increase in my tinnitus. The strange thing is, I did not experience any hyperacusis as I did with my first noise trauma in 1996. My hyperacusis has remained silent for 20 years.

My tinnitus is variable from: complete silence, mild, moderate, severe, and can reach extreme severe levels. When it is severe or very severe I can still do certain things but must admit it becomes very difficult after 2 or 3 days of loud intrusive tinnitus. The point I'm making. Someone that is seasoned to tinnitus or a veteran as I am, will not be climbing the walls in distress as some people do. This is not to say the noise cannot be distressing. Of course it can. Fortunately, I am able to manage my tinnitus quite well and don't always take benzo/clonazepam to calm it down as I once needed to.

Michael

I don't understand you. You are a walking contradiction. First of all, most of us here don't have your strange bipolar tinnitus which ranges silence to severe, but even you admit that severe drives you mad and that's from someone who's had it for over 20 years. Well most of us severe sufferers don't get a break from it like you do. It only varies slightly.

What is this guy's point someone please tell me.

 

[jasonbourne]

Lol don't let it get to you, I think a majority of those opposing you are weathering in their own storm right now and are seeing things through an emotional lens.

Perhaps if they were in a better state then you would find more empathetic views; in the meantime don't give up... You've contributed a lot to these forums and I'm sure have saved many people from the throes of madness. I still remember your responses to my thread many years ago and it has saved me from my anxiety. I always felt that even if people disagree with an idea, at least a seed is planted. Don't let it bother you too much =P

Seeing things through an emotional lens? Oh dear. Way to dismiss the suffering of millions. I got banned calling you out for what you truly are before, I won't do it again.

 

[Marko Nakovski]

@dpdx Indeed I was stupid to do such thing with this condition. I never had hyperacusis before and my hearing was good. Now my hearing is still good luckily, but this is the first time that I have this symptom.. I know almost nothing about this condition and thats why Im reading some people opinions. I hope you get well soon

 

[coffee_girl]

Seeing things through an emotional lens? Oh dear. Way to dismiss the suffering of millions. I got banned calling you out for what you truly are before, I won't do it again.

don't like the opinions of others? don't get on the internet. I don't really care what you think, your opinions on the forum are redundant at best. You're mad, that's cool...why don't you go play some video games to cool off.

 

[Michael Leigh]

I don't understand you. You are a walking contradiction. First of all, most of us here don't have your strange bipolar tinnitus which ranges silence to severe, but even you admit that severe drives you mad and that's from someone who's had it for over 20 years. Well most of us severe sufferers don't get a break from it like you do. It only varies slightly.

What is this guy's point someone please tell me.

@jasonbourne

In every tinnitus forum there are people that feel sorry for themselves. They are full of bitterness and despair and unable to fathom why others are not moaning and groaning like they do. They want answers to questions but really want a cure from the nightmare that has befallen upon them. The forum and other social media platforms become their hunting ground, to vent their frustrations to the world. Looking for someone to blame for the huge disappointment tinnitus has imposed on their life. This is what I mean about tinnitus being 90% mental. Once a person is able to accept this condition instead of fighting against it changes will start to happen.

They will look at life more positively and appreciate the good things they have in their life instead of focusing on the negatives. It doesn't happen overnight but a lot can be achieved with positive thinking. I encourage these people to seek professional help if necessary. Counselling with a Hearing Therapist or Audiologist trained in the management and treatment of tinnitus and hyperacusis, is a good place to start. Some medications can be helpful too.

I wish you well and goodbye.

Michael

 

[Greg Sacramento]

All with tinnitus should avoid loud noise. Hearing loss can be sudden or it can be accumulate where the camel's back might then be broken.

Age related hearing loss can be caused by abnormalities of the outer and middle ear. This may include reduced function of the tympanic membrane (the eardrum) or reduced function of the three tiny bones in the middle ear that carry sound waves from the tympanic membrane to the inner ear. Those with physical related tinnitus also have to be very careful as the mandibular and cervical process associates with nerves within the ear. Here's a list of other reasons why caution is needed per noise and more so with aging.

poor circulation
high blood pressure
heart disease
(with all three mention so far, sounds may have be limited to 75 decibels)

vein and artery disease - cranial nerve weakness
weak bones and conditions that relate to this.
muscle trauma or weakness
diabetes - blood sugar
changes in blood flow and to the ear
impairment of hearing nerves
changes in the way that the brain processes sound
medication use needs to considered carefully

 

[Jazzer]

All with tinnitus should avoid loud noise. Hearing loss can be sudden or it can be accumulate where the camel's back might then be broken.

Age related hearing loss can be caused by abnormalities of the outer and middle ear. This may include reduced function of the tympanic membrane (the eardrum) or reduced function of the three tiny bones in the middle ear that carry sound waves from the tympanic membrane to the inner ear. Those with physical related tinnitus also have to be very careful as the mandibular and cervical process associates with nerves within the ear. Here's a list of other reasons why caution is needed per noise and more so with aging.

poor circulation
high blood pressure
heart disease
(with all three mention so far, sounds may have be limited to 75 decibels)

vein and artery disease - cranial nerve weakness
weak bones and conditions that relate to this.
muscle trauma or weakness
diabetes - blood sugar
changes in blood flow and to the ear
impairment of hearing nerves
changes in the way that the brain processes sound
medication use needs to considered carefully

An excellent summation of the various causes of Tinnitus, and a very important warning regarding the necessity for loud noise avoidance and the absolute necessity for ear protection.
Knowledgeable and informative.
Ear damage is cumulative.
Don't let it build up folks.

This man knows his medical science.
The voice of not so common sense.
Very much appreciated Greg. x

 

[Bam]

but a lot can be achieved with positive thinking.

Maybe adopt that same positivity in your attitude to other members of this forum instead of constantly being so snippy. Just a thought.

.........Oh and spare me the pompous outrage and maybe drop a Clonazepam before you respond to that.

Have a nice day!

 

[Greg Sacramento]

The voice of not so common sense.

@Jazzer - You have a natural aptitude for using words and that requires wit.

You had also provided the 'relaxing the jaw and mouth technique' which should be on the first page in every tinnitus handbook.

I appreciate having you as a caring friend.

 

[Autumnly]

A positive attitude can help how we react to and live within limitations but it won't change the fact that tinnitus and hyperacusis can come with limitations (obviously, every case is different). But I wouldn't call it 'utter rubbish' every time a person is worried about everyday sounds. Are there cases where it's simply due to anxiety? Yes, of course. Do I believe there are also some cases where sounds that shouldn't have impacted them permanently did so nonetheless? Yes.

In this situation, an hour in a loud restaurant shouldn't have hurt dpdx, right? But perhaps it did. I really hope this spike will go down and that his hyperacusis will improve over time. And I really hope Neuromod's new device will help many of us.

 

[Michael Leigh]

Maybe adopt that same positivity in your attitude to other members of this forum instead of constantly being so snippy. Just a thought.

.........Oh and spare me the pompous outrage and maybe drop a Clonazepam before you respond to that.

Have a nice day!

I would have thought you were better than this Bam, after the support and encouragement I gave to you, when you were in a very dark place and contemplated suicide.

Michael

 

[Bam]

I would have thought you were better than this Bam, after the support and encouragement I gave to you when you were a very dark place.

Michael

Michael nobody wants to have a go at you but some of your posts to people are so incredibly reactionary. It's odd. You need to accept that not everybody will treat you with absolute reverence. When it comes down to it you're a just a faceless nobody on the internet. As far as I'm aware nobody has even met you in real life. And yet you expect to be treated like some high priest of tinnitus and revert back to your 'I'm a veteran of 20 years and you're all newbies blah blah blah blah.'

There are plenty of people who object to what I say, but I don't attack them and start threatening to 'ignore' them. @Red outright disagreed with me the other day. I don't mind. I didn't object at all. She had a point, she put it down eloquently and more importantly she's in pain too.

People suffer Michael. Like me and @jasonbourne We're not 'cohorts' of anyone or trying to spread fear and negativity as you suggest. We're just in immense pain and being real and honest. We're not one dimensional T bots. We hurt, we bleed, we get frustrated, we've lost a lot, we need to vent. We want our stories to be heard.

In my mind that's what this place is for. Otherwise why bother with it? Trust me if it was just a place where people posted tired cut and paste instruction manual for 'coping' advice, it would die a death overnight.

 

[Red]

All with tinnitus should avoid loud noise. Hearing loss can be sudden or it can be accumulate where the camel's back might then be broken.

Age related hearing loss can be caused by abnormalities of the outer and middle ear. This may include reduced function of the tympanic membrane (the eardrum) or reduced function of the three tiny bones in the middle ear that carry sound waves from the tympanic membrane to the inner ear. Those with physical related tinnitus also have to be very careful as the mandibular and cervical process associates with nerves within the ear. Here's a list of other reasons why caution is needed per noise and more so with aging.

poor circulation
high blood pressure
heart disease
(with all three mention so far, sounds may have be limited to 75 decibels)

vein and artery disease - cranial nerve weakness
weak bones and conditions that relate to this.
muscle trauma or weakness
diabetes - blood sugar
changes in blood flow and to the ear
impairment of hearing nerves
changes in the way that the brain processes sound
medication use needs to considered carefully

Interested to hear your input, Greg. A lot, but not all, here know to use ear protection for loud places with consistent loud volume (restaurants, airplanes, MRI machines, walking on a busy street, weddings, etc.) and preferably avoided or worked around if possible.

But what is your opinion on more moderate places where impulse noises can happen outside of our control? (Retail stores, grocery stores, driving a car, Thanksgiving with your family, probably anywhere outside your house, let's be honest) Do you see earplugs in these as situations necessary?

The answer 'It depends on your limits. Listen to your body' would be a reasonable answer but wearing earplugs spikes me+ups my sensitivity. It can be hard to tell if wearing earplugs in such places has a long term beneficial impact.

 

[Michael Leigh]

We hurt, we bleed, we get frustrated, we've lost a lot, we need to vent. We want our stories to be heard.

I have nothing against a person wanting to vent their frustrations about what they're going through with tinnitus @Bam . I agree that's what this forum is for. Disrespect and bad manners isn't necessary especially when someone is trying to help. Whenever you get the time, please look back on some of my posts and you will see: The people that have challenged me or wanting to make an argument it has never been instigated by me. I do not regard myself as all knowing about tinnitus and I don't believe I have ever said so. If certain people have that impression of me that is their affair not mine. When they choose to make trouble with me I keep a wide berth and when necessary I ignore them.

I wish you well and goodbye
Michael

 

[Ed209]

@Bam, I agree with you. At the end of the day it's all just a bunch of words isn't it? We can't always agree on every issue can we? I think this would suggest a lack of sincerity in what's being said. Agreeing for the sake of it is just being fake and is not being yourself.

With that said, just because we don't agree on something doesn't mean we all have to fall out. That's how I see things, anyway. Manners go both ways and no one can take ownership of tinnitus; it's a shared experience.

 

[coffee_girl]

@Bam, I agree with you. At the end of the day it's all just a bunch of words isn't it? We can't always agree on every issue can we? I think this would suggest a lack of sincerity in what's being said. Agreeing for the sake of it is just being fake and is not being yourself.

With that said, just because we don't agree on something doesn't mean we all have to fall out. That's how I see things, anyway. Manners go both ways and no one can take ownership of tinnitus; it's a shared experience.

Is not all "just words", some of these people genuinely (and I mean for real) hate others who don't share the same view as them... I don't hate anyone but seriously some of these clowns be like: "I'm a victim" then i see their posts and I'm like "damn you're a mad instigator with some grudge for real".

Those people have a mean axe to grind and It's funny they take it out on other sufferers because they know we're all in the same boat. They can't bother the non tinnitus folks because they're ending up losing that fight... So they're gonna start greasing their keyboards on whomever is the flavor of the month.

It's like Dantes inferno on this site, we often cannibalize our own for what reason, nobody knows. But for sure someone is gonna start some s*** and once again the old feuds are back and suddenly everyone is themselves for a few hours before we resume the whole sympathy routine again.

 

[Jazzer]

Seeing things through an emotional lens? Oh dear. Way to dismiss the suffering of millions. I got banned calling you out for what you truly are before, I won't do it again.

Jason - your perception is faultless.
Yes somebody actually is redundant here, and possibly mad - but it isn't you my brother.

Now look here you lot - there's far too much excitement going on on here this morning for an old bugger like myself, so I've decided to 'choose a little happiness, and nip outside to enjoy the sunshine.'

(Oi - Oi - Oi - no jeering from the peanut gallery,
this "therapeutic model" comes highly recommended, I'll have you know.)
Dave x
Jazzer

 

[coffee_girl]

Yes I heard the annual witch hunt for women suffering from tinnitus has just commenced, you need to be there to remind them as to why they are insignificant then bumble about with tails tucked and posting sympathy memes when faced with backlash.

 

[Jazzer]

Yes I heard the annual witch hunt for women suffering from tinnitus has just commenced, you need to be there to remind them as to why they are insignificant then bumble about with tails tucked and posting sympathy memes when faced with backlash.

"Hahahahahahahaha.......I Love It xxx"

 

[Ed209]

Is not all "just words", some of these people genuinely (and I mean for real) hate others who don't share the same view as them... I don't hate anyone but seriously some of these clowns be like: "I'm a victim" then i see their posts and I'm like "damn you're a mad instigator with some grudge for real".

Those people have a mean axe to grind and It's funny they take it out on other sufferers because they know we're all in the same boat. They can't bother the non tinnitus folks because they're ending up losing that fight... So they're gonna start greasing their keyboards on whomever is the flavor of the month.

It's like Dantes inferno on this site, we often cannibalize our own for what reason, nobody knows. But for sure someone is gonna start some s*** and once again the old feuds are back and suddenly everyone is themselves for a few hours before we resume the whole sympathy routine again.

Yes I heard the annual witch hunt for women suffering from tinnitus has just commenced, you need to be there to remind them as to why they are insignificant then bumble about with tails tucked and posting sympathy memes when faced with backlash.

There is a hint of hypocrisy here.


Answering your first quote, it's always been like that on here. We're like one big disfunctional family and it seems some people just don't get along. In some cases there are very justifiable reasons for this, but in others, it's all just part of debating difficult issues, and there's nothing personal involved.

There is more to some posters than meets the eye.

 

[coffee_girl]

"Hahahahahahahaha.......I Love It xxx"

I know you do, because secretly you like it.

 

[Gman]

@Michael Leigh When you first got hyperacusis and during treatment, did you live according to what you preach now? Did you journey out into public without a care?
I'm not trying to start anything, by the way. I'm genuinely interested for my own sake. Or did you spend a lot of time at home to let your auditory system recouperate?

Should someone who has recently developed hyperacusis, or someone (like me) who's had a recent worsening/regression, simply get on with it even if certain non damaging sounds cause discomfort, seem ridiculously loud, and can even cause spikes?

With my recent H regression and more intense T spikes, I feel like I'm not doing my ears any favours being out and about. They are telling me this and I don't have the anxiety I did the first time round that can be blamed as the cause. It's the sounds pure and simple that are causing discomfort and spikes.

 

[coffee_girl]

There is a hint of hypocrisy here.


Answering your first quote, it's always been like that on here. We're like one big disfunctional family and it seems some people just don't get along. In some cases there are very justifiable reasons for this, but in others, it's all just part of debating difficult issues, and there's nothing personal involved.

There is more to some posters than meets the eye.

There is no hypocrisy, like I said... I don't address anything to anyone unless they are gonna try something with me first, by then I am too tickled not to throw something back, it's fun. For real though, no hate, if any of these folks were stuck on the side of the road I'd tell my maid to get out and give them a hand.

 

[Jazzer]

I'd tell my maid to get out and give them a hand.

'Wow - did you see that - she's got a maid!
She must be a real VIP !!"

One thing may be worth bearing in mind here.

'Young men must have their fun!'

Shakespeare (I think)
Henry 4th part one?

 

[coffee_girl]

'Wow - did you see that - she's got a maid!
She must be a real VIP !!"

One thing may be worth bearing in mind here.

'Young men must have their fun!'

Shakespeare (I think)
Henry 4th part one?

Why wouldn't men or women have fun? Is "fun" gender exclusive? Or were you thinking in that archaic way again?

 

[Michael Leigh]

When you first got hyperacusis and during treatment, did you live according to what you preach now? Did you journey out into public without a care?
I'm not trying to start anything, by the way. I'm genuinely interested for my own sake. Or did you spend a lot of time at home to let your auditory system recouperate?

Should someone who has recently developed hyperacusis, or someone (like me) who's had a recent worsening/regression, simply get on with it even if certain non damaging sounds cause discomfort, seem ridiculously loud, and can even cause spikes?

With my recent H regression and more intense T spikes, I feel like I'm not doing my ears any favours being out and about. They are telling me this and I don't have the anxiety I did the first time round that can be blamed as the cause. It's the sounds pure and simple that are causing discomfort and spikes.

I agree with @Autumnly @Gman you have asked a very good question that deserves an honest answer. Just before I get into it, I want to say: I take a slight objection to being called a Preacher, [Joking] for this has never been my intention. I am quite passionate about tinnitus for it changed my life quite profoundly 22 years ago and again in 2008 to 2012 due to a second noise trauma. Those 4 years have been the most difficult time of my life so far and I hope I never have to live through them again.

It is for this reason I advise people that have "noise induced" tinnitus not to use headphones even at low volume, as there's a risk of making the tinnitus worse. Just a few days ago, someone from this forum who I shall not name, telephoned me to say, their tinnitus has increased significantly after using headphones even though the volume was kept low. This person admits knowing the risks and is now full of regret.

The sermon is over.


Twenty two years ago when I first got severe tinnitus and hyperacusis I didn't know what hit me, just like the many newbies that visit this forum who are in a similar state. My first reaction was to keep away from all noise. Kitchen plates and cutlery were a nightmare, as I couldn't stand the sound of them and would run for cover as my tinnitus and hyperacusis would shoot through the roof and cause me immense pain in the process.

I wanted to stay at home and not venture out doors but knew enough to realize this wasn't a good idea. When I went out I would use FOAM earplugs to protect my ears from any potential loud noise that I thought would make my T & H worse. The Internet wasn't as it is now, with a wealth of information at one's fingertips which can be obtained by anyone with a computer or mobile phone. It was still very new and I don't think I had a computer back then and certainly not a mobile phone. I purchased books on tinnitus and also borrowed them from the library. My quest was to learn as much information about tinnitus and hyperacusis as possible.

I joined a well known tinnitus organisation that is still operational today. They published a quarterly Tinnitus Journal, and it was my life-line. I learnt so much about tinnitus from the "Readers letter pages" Veterans would write letters of support to help other readers and some volunteered to be tinnitus support contacts, to help anyone having a difficult time coping with tinnitus. It is for this reason I give counselling via telephone to anyone that wishes to contact me. I have counselled people here in the UK , Europe and the USA.

We are all different, so any advice that I give I would like people to use it as a guide. If any of my suggestions work for someone then I'm pleased. Tinnitus is a personal journey and each person's experience with be unique to them. I believe you have had tinnitus long enough to know what works best for you and what you're auditory system can tolerate. However, I advise you to be careful of overprotecting your ears and use hearing protection prudently. Overuse of hearing protection and keeping a way from everyday normal sounds can cause other problems such as: Phonophobia and Misophonia.

I wish you well

Michael

Should someone who has recently developed hyperacusis, or someone (like me) who's had a recent worsening/regression, simply get on with it even if certain non damaging sounds cause discomfort, seem ridiculously loud, and can even cause spikes?

I believe you are the best judge of this. Do whatever you feel comfortable doing.

 

[coffee_girl]

I agree with @Autumnly @Gman you have asked a very good question that deserves an honest answer. Just before I get into it, I want to say: I take a slight objection to being called a Preacher, [Joking] for this has never been my intent. I am quite passionate about tinnitus for it changed my life quite profoundly 22 years ago and again in 2008 to 2012 due to a second noise trauma. Those 4 years have been the most difficult time of my life so far and I hope I never have to live through them again.

It is for this reason I advise people that have "noise induced" tinnitus not to use headphones even at low volume, as there's a risk of making the tinnitus worse. Just a few days ago, someone from forum who I shall not name, telephoned me to say, their tinnitus has increased significantly after using headphones even though the volume was kept low. This person admits knowing the risks and is now full of regret.

The sermon is over.


Twenty two years ago when I first got severe tinnitus and hyperacusis I didn't know what hit me, just like the many newbies that visit this forum who are in a similar state. My first reaction was to keep away from all noise. Kitchen plates and cutlery were a nightmare, as I couldn't stand the sound of them and would run for cover as my tinnitus and hyperacusis would shoot through the roof and cause me immense pain in the process.

I wanted to stay at home and not venture out doors but knew enough to realize this wasn't a good idea. When I went out I would use FOAM earplugs to protect my ears from any potential loud noise that I thought would make my T & H worse. The Internet wasn't as it is now, with a wealth of information at one's fingertips which can be obtained by anyone with a computer or mobile phone. It was still very new and I don't think I had a computer back then and certainly not a mobile phone. I purchased books on tinnitus and also borrowed them from the library. My quest was to learn as much information about tinnitus and hyperacusis as possible.

I joined a well known tinnitus organisation that is still operational today. They published a quarterly Tinnitus Journal, and it was my life-line. I learnt so much about tinnitus from the "Readers letter pages" Veterans would write letters of support to help other readers and some volunteered to be tinnitus support contacts, to help anyone having a difficult time coping with tinnitus. It is for this reason I give counselling via telephone to anyone that wishes to contact me. I have counselled people here in the UK , Europe and the USA.

We are all different, so any advice that I give I would like people to use it as a guide. If any of my suggestions work for someone then I'm pleased. Tinnitus is a personal journey and each person's experience with be unique to them. I believe you have had tinnitus long enough to know what works best for you and what you're auditory system can tolerate. However, I advise you to be careful of overprotecting your ears and use hearing protection prudently. Overuse of hearing protection and keeping a way from everyday normal sounds can cause other problems such as: Phonophobia and Misophonia.

I wish you well

Michael

Should someone who has recently developed hyperacusis, or someone (like me) who's had a recent worsening/regression, simply get on with it even if certain non damaging sounds cause discomfort, seem ridiculously loud, and can even cause spikes?

I believe you are the best judge of this. Do whatever you feel comfortable doing.

Just curious if you feel that the relaxed approach made you a bit too comfortable which then led to a secondary exposure? This is the only thing that keeps me from being too carefree, I don't want to develop bad habits which then spirals into neglect

 

[Michael Leigh]

Just curious if you feel that the relaxed approach made you a bit too comfortable which then led to a secondary exposure?

You have hit the nail firmly on the head @coffee_girl I reached a stage where I hardly heard my tinnitus and completely forgot about it and there lies the danger. So yes, it was a relaxed attitude that the worst was over and I could now sail-off into the sunset. Big, big, mistake. Thank goodness I was never tempted to return to using headphones.

Michael

 

[jasonbourne]

@jasonbourne

In every tinnitus forum there are people that feel sorry for themselves. They are full of bitterness and despair and unable to fathom why others are not moaning and groaning like they do. They want answers to questions but really want a cure from the nightmare that has befallen upon them. The forum and other social media platforms become their hunting ground, to vent their frustrations to the world. Looking for someone to blame for the huge disappointment tinnitus has imposed on their life. This is what I mean about tinnitus being 90% mental. Once a person is able to accept this condition instead of fighting against it changes will start to happen.

They will look at life more positively and appreciate the good things they have in their life instead of focusing on the negatives. It doesn't happen overnight but a lot can be achieved with positive thinking. I encourage these people to seek professional help if necessary. Counselling with a Hearing Therapist or Audiologist trained in the management and treatment of tinnitus and hyperacusis, is a good place to start. Some medications can be helpful too.

I wish you well and goodbye.

Michael

But I'm not looking for anyone to blame. I post advice about protecting ears and on occasion get into disagreements. One of the main things that drive me up the wall is when my suffering and millions of others is invalidated by saying its all in the head. I'm not taking anything out on anyone. If you say stupid stuff expect people to not like what they see.

Your theory also isn't very useful and is too much of a blanket statement. Sorry. Also I'm not fighting tinnitus, i have accepted it. Like someone would accept terminal cancer.