Tinnitus Completely Gone with Eardrops After Over a Year Plus a New Discovery (Please Read!)

I sometimes wish I could permanently delete the word from the brains of people who often quote it with such authority. Even though there's a certain credence to it, I think it's way too often inappropriately used and misinterpreted--like a lot of medical science in general for that matter.

For instance, during drugs trials, it seems they primarily focus on the people who've NOT gotten a real medication, and monitor what their results are taking placebo into consideration. But what about the group that DOES get a medication. Since so many medications have side effects--some of them very immediate and strong--doesn't it make sense that a good number of these individuals are convinced they're getting the real medication, and their bodies respond accordingly? In other words, sort of a reverse-placebo effect?

For myself, I've got such a sensitive system, I know when something I take is placebo or not. I know some will likely say that's being arrogant, but I've tried many things I felt convinced beforehand would be really good--and they weren't. Conversely, I tried many things I had serious doubts about, only to find they had some benefit. I think in the end, we have to put our confidence in whatever makes the most sense to us. -- BTW, I'm still not convinced your initial benefit from taking those drops was placebo. ;)
Makes sense. Tinnitus is such a strange animal. It hides when it needs to then comes back when least expected. For example I could notice for days where if I don't get a solid 8 hours, my tinnitus is worse. The day I purposely force myself to get less hours is the day where I have little to no tinnitus even though any other day I would have a siren in my ear. My tinnitus seems to respond to many new things I try. Initially with good results then back to baseline. Is this a placebo or does tinnitus actually respond to new changes then eventually creeps back? I haven't figured it out yet. All this seems to point to how complex and intricate the brain really is and it seems like each time we think we figured it out it's workings, there's a catch and what we thought was the case all along seems to be wrong.

I think I've observed people long enough to conclude that the less intelligent and less self-aware someone is, the better off they are health-wise and the more intelligent and self-aware one is, the more they struggle with illness and stress and this combination compounds and forms a self-fulfilling cycle. I've also noticed many of us who struggle with tinnitus are very self-aware people. I'm to the point where if I feel some change anywhere in my body, I have to know what the cause it or else I get bad anxiety and stress even though it's not warranted. I'm also a perfectionist and I'd assume this personality trait also fits into the issues I have. Being self-aware of your own flaws is also detrimental to your health since seeing them and failing to correct them causes you to feel like a failure which further adds to your overall problems.
 
@MartinNYC Hey, I also suspect I might have issues with my TMJ but no one (physiotherapist, dentist) is given me clear answers. How did get your diagnosis confirmed that your tinnitus is cause by a TMJ dysfunction?

A very smart ENT doc examined me and took some history and concluded my (sudden) tinnitus was TMJ-related. My physical therapist, who specializes in tinnitus and TMJ, confirmed this by moving my jaw and neck in certain ways and pressing certain muscles and bones and actually triggering the tinnitus. Ultimately, the audiologist who works with the ENT found my hearing to be excellent and my eardrums to be healthy.

My ENT made recommendations for not aggravating my TMJ, such as avoiding "hard" foods that put pressure on the jaw, such as nuts (I ate a lot of nuts), bread, crackers etc (I ate a lot of that, too) and to rectify my teeth-grinding at night. The PT gave me exercises to relax my TMJ and jaw muscles.

Try to find an ENT practice where the audiologist is on the staff so they can communicate more easily.
 
A very smart ENT doc examined me and took some history and concluded my (sudden) tinnitus was TMJ-related. My physical therapist, who specializes in tinnitus and TMJ, confirmed this by moving my jaw and neck in certain ways and pressing certain muscles and bones and actually triggering the tinnitus. Ultimately, the audiologist who works with the ENT found my hearing to be excellent and my eardrums to be healthy.

My ENT made recommendations for not aggravating my TMJ, such as avoiding "hard" foods that put pressure on the jaw, such as nuts (I ate a lot of nuts), bread, crackers etc (I ate a lot of that, too) and to rectify my teeth-grinding at night. The PT gave me exercises to relax my TMJ and jaw muscles.

Try to find an ENT practice where the audiologist is on the staff so they can communicate more easily.

@MartinNYC Thanks for getting back to me! That was good info. My tinnitus goes away when I force my neck in certain positions. Sometimes when I move my head back the tinnitus goes down and while I am holding that position and open my jaw the tinnitus goes away completely again. The moment I release, tinnitus is back.

What treatment did you get on your TMJ and after how long did you notice improvement?
 
@MartinNYC Thanks for getting back to me! That was good info. My tinnitus goes away when I force my neck in certain positions. Sometimes when I move my head back the tinnitus goes down and while I am holding that position and open my jaw the tinnitus goes away completely again. The moment I release, tinnitus is back.

What treatment did you get on your TMJ and after how long did you notice improvement?

Very interesting! Sounds like you have TMJ issues. At the height of my tinnitus attack, I awakened in the middle of the night with the loud siren in my ears BUT when I turned my neck to try to get comfortable—complete silence, like I short-circuited it! This was my epiphany. When I told my ENT doc this, he said the tinnitus was clearly caused by TMJ, not by ear issues. When I started eliminating the hard foods (I forgot to mention apples with the skin, too) that aggravate my TMJ, the tinnitus began subsiding. The exercises my PT taught me further helped. Also, the PT recommended I sleep in a "neutral" position in which my neck/head are flat, rather than propping up my neck/head with more pillows—Very helpful in eliminating the tinnitus.
 
Very interesting! Sounds like you have TMJ issues. At the height of my tinnitus attack, I awakened in the middle of the night with the loud siren in my ears BUT when I turned my neck to try to get comfortable—complete silence, like I short-circuited it! This was my epiphany. When I told my ENT doc this, he said the tinnitus was clearly caused by TMJ, not by ear issues. When I started eliminating the hard foods (I forgot to mention apples with the skin, too) that aggravate my TMJ, the tinnitus began subsiding. The exercises my PT taught me further helped. Also, the PT recommended I sleep in a "neutral" position in which my neck/head are flat, rather than propping up my neck/head with more pillows—Very helpful in eliminating the tinnitus.


@MartinNYC nice! You're so lucky you found the cause. My pt is convinced it's musle problems in my neck and not my TMJ but my gut is iffy about it all.

Did you have pain in your jaw?
 
@MartinNYC nice! You're so lucky you found the cause. My pt is convinced it's musle problems in my neck and not my TMJ but my gut is iffy about it all.

Did you have pain in your jaw?

Neck and TMJ can be related since they're connected and ultimately connected to the ears, causing the tinnitus. In my case, my TMJ and fatigued neck muscles due to incorrect posture etc caused the tinnitus flareup.

No jaw pain. My TMJ issues expressed themselves with the tinnitus
 
Neck and TMJ can be related since they're connected and ultimately connected to the ears, causing the tinnitus. In my case, my TMJ and fatigued neck muscles due to incorrect posture etc caused the tinnitus flareup.

@MartinNYC Yes, they are definitely connected. Did you experience any pain symptoms as well as tinnitus?
 
@MartinNYC Yes, they are definitely connected. Did you experience any pain symptoms as well as tinnitus?

I should also mention that the ENT doc deep-cleaning a couple of sizable mounds of wax out of my ears helped, too, in reducing my tinnitus and giving me a sense of lightness in my ears and head. I no longer will use Qtips to try to clean my ears, which can actually push wax into the ear canal. I plan on having my ENT clean my ears every six months or so, as he recommended.
 
I definitely had a TMD disorder that involved my right TMJ joint. I had a one year treatment plan thst involved wearing custom day & night oral appliances, monthly adjustments, various injections & physical therapy sessions. The joint is back in place, the muscle pain is gone but the Tinnitus stayed exactly the same. My dental specialist had said there was a very slight chance the Tinnitus would improve and unfortunately he was right.
 
Update... I've stopped using the drops for several days now. However, on May 28th, I began taking a concoction of supplements on a daily basis. I'm super excited to say that I am seeing very positive results, however, I want to wait at least a full week before I do my final report so stay tuned!
 

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