Tinnitus without Hearing Loss

[ringinghours]

I got my hearing tested at an audiologist and found out that I have no hearing loss. I understand the majority of tinnitus sufferers have hearing loss.

Who else on this forum has tinnitus without any hearing loss?

 

[Autumnly]

You could still have hidden hearing loss.

 

[Contrast]

OMG, it's this bullshit thread again. Now I have to take time out of my day to write this.

The Tonal audiogram is not accurate. Nerve damage doesn't show up on hearing test.

http://hyperacusisfocus.org/innerear/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378595516302507

 

[InfiniteLoop]

@ringinghours

Everybody has hearing loss (ranging from minimal to very extensive). The audiologist is just telling you that you do not need hearing aids.

 

[JohnAdams]

Oh, you have hearing loss, it's just not detectable with standard hearing tests. It's called hidden hearing loss.

 

[ringinghours]

Oh, you have hearing loss, it's just not detectable with standard hearing tests. It's called hidden hearing loss.

No the audiologist said my hearing test not only shows no hearing loss but that my results are above average. The audiologist says it is important not to stress out over the tinnitus as that is the only way it will go away. That I have to do something in order not be bothered by it as much.

 

[JohnAdams]

No the audiologist said my hearing test not only shows no hearing loss but that my results are above average. The audiologist says it is important not to stress out over the tinnitus as that is the only way it will go away.

You have been severely misinformed.

 

[ringinghours]

OMG, it's this bullshit thread again. Now I have to take time out of my day to write this.

The Tonal audiogram is not accurate. Nerve damage doesn't show up on hearing test.

http://hyperacusisfocus.org/innerear/


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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378595516302507

OK point taken. But do you know, since I performed so well on a 8000 Hz hearing test, chances are I don't have much hearing loss if any in other frequencies and probably either very little or no nerve damage/hidden hearing loss. Isn't it logical that for those whose hearing loss is very mild, their tinnitus is more likely to go away?

Also, the article you posted never mentions studies on the likely hood of getting tinnitus and the chances these people have of recovering from it in the people with this nerve damage but without detectable hearing loss that you speak of.

Neuromod's device works by a sound therapy that is geared only towards those with hearing loss, by playing the frequency you are missing at the minimum volume you can hear. They claim that tinnitus is caused because people with hearing loss are not being stimulated by frequencies that are lost. But that would mean that those who are able to hear all the frequencies that a person without hearing loss and nerve damage can hear should not have tinnitus. What's your explanation for that?

 

[GSC]

The only way you would know if you don't have hearing loss is if you tested above the 8khz frequency, did all the way to 20, did a speech in noise - and maybe even far more extensive tests than that. Speech in noise is one of the best tests you can get ( even if it is still subpar ) to see if you damaged your inner hair cells. If you score less than 100 then it is safe to assume you suffered damage, or even hair cell death. Who knows. Point is, hidden hearing loss is very much a thing and not a lot of ents and audiologists test for it.

 

[ringinghours]

The only way you would know if you don't have hearing loss is if you tested above the 8khz frequency, did all the way to 20, did a speech in noise - and maybe even far more extensive tests than that. Speech in noise is one of the best tests you can get ( even if it is still subpar ) to see if you damaged your inner hair cells. If you score less than 100 then it is safe to assume you suffered damage, or even hair cell death. Who knows. Point is, hidden hearing loss is very much a thing and not a lot of ents and audiologists test for it.

I searched online and was able to hear up to 15000 Hz.

 

[GSC]

OK point taken. But do you know, since I performed so well on a 8000 Hz hearing test, chances are I don't have much hearing loss if any in other frequencies and probably either very little or no nerve damage/hidden hearing loss. Isn't it logical that for those whose hearing loss is very mild, their tinnitus is more likely to go away?

Mild hearing

I searched online and was able to hear up to 15000 Hz.

I wouldn't self-test yourself, because youtube, from what I read, has a cap at a certain frequency, and so do computer speakers. The best way to gauge your hearing is with an audiologist in a sound booth who tests the higher frequencies. Be careful when you self-test.

 

[ringinghours]

Mild hearing
I wouldn't self-test yourself, because youtube, from what I read, has a cap at a certain frequency, and so do computer speakers. The best way to gauge your hearing is with an audiologist in a sound booth who tests the higher frequencies. Be careful when you self-test.

You know I specifically asked the audiologist if she could test at a higher frequency than 8000 Hz because I knew Contrast would post this article again but unfortunately my audiologist doesn't have those capabilities.

 

[JohnAdams]

Mild hearing


I wouldn't self-test yourself, because youtube, from what I read, has a cap at a certain frequency, and so do computer speakers. The best way to gauge your hearing is with an audiologist in a sound booth who tests the higher frequencies. Be careful when you self-test.

It's called frequency response. Pro speakers and microphones have a little graph that shows how well they respond to different frequencies printed on them or their documentation. This person strongly believes that their hearing has nothing to do with their tinnitus. Tinnitus can also come from head trauma, and maybe that is the case here.

 

[ringinghours]

It's called frequency response. Pro speakers and microphones have a little graph that shows how well they respond to different frequencies printed on them or their documentation. This person strongly believes that their hearing has nothing to do with their tinnitus. Tinnitus can also come from head trauma, and maybe that is the case here.

I did not have head trauma. I don't know why I got tinnitus but it is possibly from over-exposure to noise. Assuming the reason for my tinnitus is repeat over-exposures to noise, but that I don't have much hearing loss even in the higher frequencies, what are the chances of my tinnitus going away?

 

[Contrast]

@ringinghours Do you have a history of noise exposure, loud music, loud headphones, loud factory work?

 

[Contrast]

You know I specifically asked the audiologist if she could test at a higher frequency than 8000 Hz because I knew Contrast would post this article again but unfortunately my audiologist doesn't have those capabilities.

What do they mean they don't have those capibilities?

Dude you can just search for 9000khz on Youtube with your own headphones in a quiet room.

 

[Contrast]

I did not have head trauma. I don't know why I got tinnitus but it is possibly from over-exposure to noise. Assuming the reason for my tinnitus is repeat over-exposures to noise, but that I don't have much hearing loss even in the higher frequencies, what are the chances of my tinnitus going away?

I apologize I missed this comment, yeah hidden hearing loss to the moon. lol