Tiny Box in Your Chest to Banish Misery of Tinnitus
- Thread starter Jonnie-o
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Member- May 9, 2017
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- Tinnitus Since
- 2013
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Noise-induced
- May 9, 2017
- 929
- Tinnitus Since
- 2013
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Noise-induced
Saw that article today but I'm not quite sure what to think of it...
"You also have to spend a couple of hours a day near a computer which sends tones and signals to headphones you've got on which coordinates the signals going to the vagus nerve."
The device is still in the development stage but Dr Ross said it is "very, very promising".
"I think over the next few months to a year I think this will be clinically available," he said.
From the article:
"A tiny box implanted in the chest could ease the suffering of patients with tinnitus, a new study treatment has found.
As reported in the Herald Sun today, the device about half the size of a matchbox, stimulates the vagus nerve, which helps control the heart rate, breathing and muscles responsible for swallowing speech."
What could possibly go wrong?....
Hmmmm...why do I get an uneasy feeling about that part?...
"A tiny box implanted in the chest could ease the suffering of patients with tinnitus, a new study treatment has found.
As reported in the Herald Sun today, the device about half the size of a matchbox, stimulates the vagus nerve, which helps control the heart rate, breathing and muscles responsible for swallowing speech."
What could possibly go wrong?....
Hmmmm...why do I get an uneasy feeling about that part?...
- Apr 15, 2017
- 1,419
- Tinnitus Since
- 2008
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Noise
I mean, I already spend more than a couple hours a day near a computer, so it's not exactly a life changer for me.
That website is from 2016. Maybe this is the point when all this thread starts to sum disappointment after disappointment comments.
Is this safe? This seems kinda sketchy to me. Constant stimulation of a nerve, especially in the chest, seems like a good way to trigger a cardiac arrest or something. Maybe I'm being too paranoid about these, but the idea of this makes me uncomfortable. I'd like to see some results and actual testimonials before I think about getting one.
Exactly. Is just having the device working during a fraction of the time I spend visiting this forum.
This is hype, hype, hype and more hype. Let's take things a bit at a time.
The paper referred to in this article was published in September 2017 so it is old news (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5607328/). It is a small pilot pilot study with some modest positive results based on a non-standard definition of clinical significance. Incidentally, the paper was posted here when it was published: https://www.tinnitustalk.com/thread...est-news-and-research.469/page-10#post-295378
The esteemed Dr. Ross Walker (always a bad sign when the article refers to Dr Ross Walker as "Dr. Ross") is a cardiologist who "has published seven best selling books on preventative cardiology". (http://www.drrosswalker.com/about-dr-ross-walker/)
It is actually exactly the same. Some of the co-authors work for or are consultants for Microtransponder, and this is their device.
Hopefully a mod can move all of this into the microtransponder thread: https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/microtransponder-latest-news-and-research.469/
The paper referred to in this article was published in September 2017 so it is old news (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5607328/). It is a small pilot pilot study with some modest positive results based on a non-standard definition of clinical significance. Incidentally, the paper was posted here when it was published: https://www.tinnitustalk.com/thread...est-news-and-research.469/page-10#post-295378
The esteemed Dr. Ross Walker (always a bad sign when the article refers to Dr Ross Walker as "Dr. Ross") is a cardiologist who "has published seven best selling books on preventative cardiology". (http://www.drrosswalker.com/about-dr-ross-walker/)
It is actually exactly the same. Some of the co-authors work for or are consultants for Microtransponder, and this is their device.
It's invasive, but it's not going to trigger cardiac arrest.
I've linked to an article that has results of a small study of this device.
Hopefully a mod can move all of this into the microtransponder thread: https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/microtransponder-latest-news-and-research.469/
So I may be dumb here but my understanding is this may only help half the people with tinnitus.
It says you need to use headphones though I'm constantly told not use headphones on this forum.
Man I don't know WHAT to think! *welp*
EDIT:
If it's proven to work though cut me open and put that f****n matchstick box in me
It says you need to use headphones though I'm constantly told not use headphones on this forum.
Man I don't know WHAT to think! *welp*
EDIT:
If it's proven to work though cut me open and put that f****n matchstick box in me
UT Dallas had a treatment that was similar in the fact that it stimulated the vagus nerve that failed. Don't know how this will be any different. However, there are people desperate enough for invasive surgery... If I hear convincing testimonials I might have to take a nice road trip to Austin.
- Apr 15, 2017
- 1,419
- Tinnitus Since
- 2008
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Noise
Why has there been a new thread started based on a small media article from an old pilot study that a lot of us already knew about? I've learnt nothing new, I really wish people would think before posting new threads in this section...
From reddit:
"Test person here with an Cochlea implant. No, the electronic stimulation did sadly not what was expected and it does not crack the so called silent code. However, it does make it easier to mask the T itself but it does not made it go away completely by sending back the exact same tone as was intended. I am still happy I did the whole test program, in the end it was a great opportunity.
But, a big but over here, keep in mind that MY tinnitus is not the same as yours. Mine started after a stupid infection which caused Single Side Sudden Deafness and maybe whenever T has been caused by loud noises, maybe it could response differently."
"Test person here with an Cochlea implant. No, the electronic stimulation did sadly not what was expected and it does not crack the so called silent code. However, it does make it easier to mask the T itself but it does not made it go away completely by sending back the exact same tone as was intended. I am still happy I did the whole test program, in the end it was a great opportunity.
But, a big but over here, keep in mind that MY tinnitus is not the same as yours. Mine started after a stupid infection which caused Single Side Sudden Deafness and maybe whenever T has been caused by loud noises, maybe it could response differently."
This is the serinity system. They have been working on this for years and years, but never had a real success. I even read reports about serious accidents with this device. So in my opinion avaiable in a year is unrealistic. In Michigan they have about the same technique, but it does not involve an implant. https://news.umich.edu/specially-ti...toms-in-test-aimed-at-condition-s-root-cause/
I think chances of this to work are far better
I think chances of this to work are far better
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