Two Questions About Tinnitus Healing

MikeB1996

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Aug 24, 2017
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08/2017
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Hey everyone, hope your day is going good :) I wanted to ask 2 questions about tinnitus and healing.

There are plenty of success stories of people whose tinnitus has completely faded or faded to a point where its almost unnoticeable. So when tinnitus happens (sound trauma), small hair cells die? And from what I read it's irreversible, so when tinnitus goes away does that mean they grow back or what happens?

My other question is about spikes, why do they happen? And is their presence a bad or good thing? I'm asking this because in the past week I've been getting a few spikes in my left ear but at the same time my tinnitus in left ear has improved a bit since the past 2 weeks.
 
So, not a doctor, but I began to develop a simple theory on T. In my opinion T is like an alert your brain generates when something is wrong. Something is wrong with your ears, certain information is no longer being received, and brains alerts you that something is wrong.

Now, what happens next may really differ from person to person. In some cases, after some time brain accepts the changed state as new "normal", and turns the alert off. In other cases, it keeps the alert but makes sure that it's not your primary concern (habituation?). And in some cases the alert never stops, compounded by stress and anxiety it causes.

So you are correct that ear damage is irreversible (at least as far as we know today), but how your brain may rewire for it. You may also NOT have any permanent damage, and it just takes a really long time for everything to heal.

Spikes are strange. I get them sometimes, and cannot find a common factor between them. I recommend just adopting a healthy lifestyle - less stress, more exercise, better diet.
 
. So when tinnitus happens (sound trauma), small hair cells die? And from what I read it's irreversible, so when tinnitus goes away does that mean they grow back or what happens?

Many people with noise trauma to the auditory system make a good recovery. They habituate to tinnitus and if hyperacusis is present, for some it can be cured (as in my case) or reduced. Others may not be so fortunate. It all depends on the person and how much they are affected. It can take up to 2 years to habituate to tinnitus.

Spikes are strange. I get them sometimes, and cannot find a common factor between them. I recommend just adopting a healthy lifestyle - less stress, more exercise, better diet.

@MikeB1996

Are spikes from loud noise permanent?

Someone recently asked me, whether a spike in tinnitus caused by loud noise would be permanent? I don't think there is a definitive answer, because tinnitus is a complex condition and if hyperacusis is also present it can complicate matters further. Some people habituate to tinnitus but their hyperacusis hasn't fully cured and this can cause tinnitus to spike.

When a person first develops tinnitus and it was caused by loud noise they have to be careful in future. Tinnitus can and does spike for many people and this is not necessarily caused by loud noise or sounds. After a while it usually returns to baseline or into its normal rhythm. Danger can present itself after a person habituates and the tinnitus has reduced to mild or moderate levels for most of the time. If one isn't careful, it can be easy to forget and slip back into the old lifestyle of: listening to music through headphones. Attending clubs, concerts and the cinema where sound levels can be quite high.

I believe a person with tinnitus should attend clubs, concerts and the cinema if they want to, providing they use noise-reducing earplugs to protect themselves. However, one should remember that nothing is one hundred percent safe. My advice is to stay clear of large standing floor speakers and if you're at a concert don't go to near the front stage where the music is likely to be booming out at high sound levels.

In many instances people will get a warning when visiting these places. If the decibel levels are too high their tinnitus might spike. Usually the tinnitus will return to baseline. However, some people do not pay attention to these warnings and continue to subject their ears to loud sounds and think they are perfectly safe because they are wearing earplugs. Under these circumstances the tinnitus might spike again and this time it might become permanent. I am saying might because nothing is for certain. In my opinion a person with tinnitus needs to follow the warnings their auditory system and tinnitus is telling them.

Regarding headphones. Many people have contacted me after they have habituated to tinnitus and returned to using headphones and listened to music through them at low volume. All of them have noticed an increase in their tinnitus. Some of them noticed their tinnitus spiked but carried on listening to music through headphones and then the tinnitus increased to a higher and more permanent level. It must be said that some people with tinnitus use headphones and have no adverse effects and that is perfectly fine. My opinion on this is, anyone that has tinnitus shouldn't listen to any type of audio through headphones even at low level.

It saddens to say, if a person doesn't heed the warning signs their auditory system and tinnitus is telling them, then they will eventually feel because tinnitus is very unforgiving. It is fine when some people are telling others what they want to hear: "listen to music through headphones because life is for living". "Go to the club as often as possible you're safe with earplugs. If your tinnitus increases you will be the one that will be in the suffering.

I have read many posts in tinnitus talk, where people had habituated and the tinnitus is low. They returned to listening to music through headphones and clubbing during the week and weekends. Some are now regretting this because their tinnitus has increased and they are in distress. Just because a person habituates doesn't mean they can forget everything and carry on in some instances recklessly. You can of course do this but my advice is to do things in moderation and not to excess, because the end result is often returning to ENT for help and visiting tinnitus forums because you are unable to cope.

Michael
 
@Michael Leigh i cant say how much i appreciate your help, not just to me but everyone you help :) Since i got T i stopped using earphones of any kind, stopped going to clubs or concerts, not because i cant, simply because i don't want this noise any louder, and that's totally fine with me, it's my choice :) I gotta admit though the T in my left has decreased a good bit and that's keeping my hopes up for it to fade fully. Oh and about my spikes, 3 happened in a short time and lasted about 10 to 5 seconds. I wasn't exposed to any loud sounds though. So no idea why they happened :) Once again a big thanks to you for taking your time and answering in so much detail!
 
@Dmitriy Hey! And Thanks for that information! It actually sounds like a good theory in my opinion.. Tinnitus could simply be a signal to inform you something is not right.. Hopefully it'll fade completely.. if not.. I'd say another 6 months and I'll habituate (sorry if there's any spelling mistakes, English is not my first language) :)
 
Oh and about my spikes, 3 happened in a short time and lasted about 10 to 5 seconds.
Those are NOT spikes. Spikes last hours-months. That's "fleeting tinnitus".
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/search/1933873/?q=fleeting&o=relevance
Whereas spikes might indicate that you might have further damaged your ears, fleeting tinnitus is more mysterious. Healthy people get fleeting tinnitus too, but of course this happens a lot less often compared to how often tinnitus sufferers experience it. I like to believe that fleeting tinnitus is my body trying to heal itself by recalibrating. In any case, fleeting tinnitus seems harmless, except for the panic it might cause when one is worried that it will never go away. Just tell yourself that it is fleeting tinnitus, and that you will worry only if it is still there after three minutes.
 
@Bill Bauer gotta say you scared me but then i got relieved haha, i also like to think that "fleeting" t is in fact the ears trying to heal.. at least i wanna hope so! Thanks for that information really helpful.. i thought those were spikes all along.
 
@Michael Leigh i cant say how much i appreciate your help, not just to me but everyone you help :) Since i got T i stopped using earphones of any kind, stopped going to clubs or concerts, not because i cant, simply because i don't want this noise any louder, and that's totally fine with me, it's my choice :) I gotta admit though the T in my left has decreased a good bit and that's keeping my hopes up for it to fade fully. Oh and about my spikes, 3 happened in a short time and lasted about 10 to 5 seconds. I wasn't exposed to any loud sounds though. So no idea why they happened :) Once again a big thanks to you for taking your time and answering in so much detail!

@MikeB1996 Thank you for your kind words they are much appreicated. You haven't had tinnitus long. The temporary spikes that you are hearing lasting up to 15 seconds or more are nothing to worry about. It is your auditory system making adjustments. A spike caused by "exposure" to loud noise is completely different. These last hours or even days. Carry on as you are doing and I believe your recovery will go well. Use a sound machine at night by your bedside for sound enrichment. Keep the volume lower than your tinnitus. Remember, habituation takes time so please be patient. Try not to use earplugs too often to suppress normal everyday sounds.

All the best
Michael
 
@MikeB1996 Thank you for your kind words they are much appreicated. You haven't had tinnitus long. The temporary spikes that you are hearing lasting up to 15 seconds or more are nothing to worry about. It is your auditory system making adjustments. A spike caused by "exposure" to loud noise is completely different. These last hours or even days. Carry on as you are doing and I believe your recovery will go well. Use a sound machine at night by your bedside for sound enrichment. Keep the volume lower than your tinnitus. Remember, habituation takes time so please be patient. Try not to use earplugs too often to suppress normal everyday sounds.

All the best
Michael
I don't use any sounds at night, i prefer silence (Not really silence i guess) when i lie down for about 20 mins i can barely hear my tinnitus, plus i rather get used to it as i always slept in total silence. Is it a good or bad idea to wear earplugs when outside in a city? I don't use them at home, just cities/buses or when I'm hoovering.
 
I don't use any sounds at night, i prefer silence (Not really silence i guess) when i lie down for about 20 mins i can barely hear my tinnitus, plus i rather get used to it as i always slept in total silence. Is it a good or bad idea to wear earplugs when outside in a city? I don't use them at home, just cities/buses or when I'm hoovering.

Using earplugs in the way that you do should be ok...
 
Is it a good or bad idea to wear earplugs when outside in a city?
I think it is a good idea to wear earplugs whenever you are at a place where you might be exposed to loud noises. Just make sure to watch TV at moderate volume (and not at low volume) - that way (if my experience can be generalized to other people) you are unlikely to develop hyperacusis.
 
I think it is a good idea to wear earplugs whenever you are at a place where you might be exposed to loud noises. Just make sure to watch TV at moderate volume (and not at low volume) - that way (if my experience can be generalized to other people) you are unlikely to develop hyperacusis.
Appreciate that info! It's exactly what I'm doing, never had h in my entire life :) hopefully never, one strange thing I've noticed is as my T in my left ear descreased, some sounds react with it, for example there is a fan in my bathroom and the T reacts with it.. but like i said it has decreased in sound.. I suppose that's a good thing? At least i hope :) when it reacts it's not very noticeable only if i look for it. When it was louder it didn't happen, but i prefer this, when it was louder it felt like my left ear vibrated .. it was a strange feeling.
 

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