Why Does Sleep Start and Stop Tinnitus?

[Steve0]

I guess no one really knows the answer but I read many reports about tinnitus either stopping after sleep or starting after sleep.

Like with mine I can wake up at 6am and it's screaming, go back to sleep and at 9am and its quiet again. It's like a cycle it runs through and it depends on what part of the cycle your at when you wake up. I need a good night's sleep to stop a big spike though.

Today when I woke up it was loud (it wasn't when I went to bed)... I had to get up because it was late already but I think if I had been able to sleep for another hour then maybe it could have dropped. Although I have had 3 good days with low tinnitus so I was due for a loud day today.

Same with naps... I can have low tinnitus... fall asleep in front on the TV for 30 minutes and wake up with very loud tinnitus.

It seems to me that it has to be something to do with brainwave state... with the sleeping state having some kind of effect.

 

[Gabriel]

It is true, when I first got my tinnitus, (which is different from now) I could make it disappear just by having a nap.
Also when I was waking up with it, I was sleeping again till I wake up without it.
I think it is because the brain has the capability to erase it. Something to do with conscious and unconscious state.

I also read it was the same for other people on French forum, that depending on how the sound of the tinnitus is in the morning, it would set it for the rest of the day.

So yes, there is a very clear and stated link between sleep and tinnitus.

 

[Mattv]

Yeah, it is strange. A nap will often lessen mine, but a full night of good sleep will cause it to crazy loud in the morning, then it generally decreases during the day. I have wondered about this many times. It comes down to the same thing: nobody know what causes it, really.

 

[coffee_girl]

My T is quietest in the morning (especially after waking up where it is virtually non-existent), it gets louder as the day goes on. It is quietest after waking up from a nap too.

My T is loudest at night but quietest 3-4 hours after waking.

 

[JohnAdams]

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982214000803

I recently found this article about the cochlea having a circadian clock that deals with a receptor site for the protein TRK-Beta. This can become disregulated and I think it is contributing to some of our tinnitus cases.

Since my treatment in Korea, my tinnitus is pretty much gone all day except for about 3 hours after lunch time whether I eat or not and I suspected it has something to do with my circadian rhythms.

This also would explain why curcumin helps with some people, because curcumin activates the TRK-Beta receptor.

ALSO, BDNF activates this as well and that is what OTO-413 (BDNF) for hidden hearing loss is basing it's function on, I think. This area of research is a little new for me and I don't fully understand all of it.

 

[just1morething]

I guess no one really knows the answer but I read many reports about tinnitus either stopping after sleep or starting after sleep.

Like with mine I can wake up at 6am and it's screaming, go back to sleep and at 9am and its quiet again. It's like a cycle it runs through and it depends on what part of the cycle your at when you wake up. I need a good night's sleep to stop a big spike though.

Today when I woke up it was loud (it wasn't when I went to bed)... I had to get up because it was late already but I think if I had been able to sleep for another hour then maybe it could have dropped. Although I have had 3 good days with low tinnitus so I was due for a loud day today.

Same with naps... I can have low tinnitus... fall asleep in front on the TV for 30 minutes and wake up with very loud tinnitus.

It seems to me that it has to be something to do with brainwave state... with the sleeping state having some kind of effect.

Same with me... Loud noise when I wake up or after naps. It really gets annoying.

 

[Digital Doc]

My tinnitus is generally much better after sleep, and even more so with my earplugs in.

I have found that if I fall asleep in front of the TV, even at a low volume, that when I wake up my tinnitus is much worse, with even ear fullness like I was exposed to some loud noise. I think my ear just is very vulnerable to any noise when I hit deep sleep.

Not sure if this helps any of you, but perhaps this is playing a role in the increase in tinnitus.

 

[JohnAdams]

My tinnitus is generally much better after sleep, and even more so with my earplugs in.

Nice, I don't sleep with earplugs in but, I have noticed that it is worse if I use a fan to mask on high and if I use no fan that seems to correlate with lower tinnitus the next day.

 

[Digital Doc]

Nice, I don't sleep with earplugs in but, I have noticed that it is worse if I use a fan to mask on high and if I use no fan that seems to correlate with lower tinnitus the next day.

So is the conclusion that masking is worsening the T? Do you generally mask or not at night? Have you tried sleeping with earplugs in? I find I have to give it a few mins for the T to quiet after the earplugs go in for the night.

 

[Ringeee]

I got my first night of good sleep in two months last night and woke up to the lowest (almost non-existent) tinnitus I've had in over a year.

 

[Digital Doc]

I got my first night of good sleep in two months last night and woke up to the lowest (almost non-existent) tinnitus I've had in over a year.

Did you listen to anything to get this?

 

[Michael B]

I would always say that something about sleep puts my tinnitus to sleep. Been that way for years but no longer. It does change from day to day not necessarily lowering it.

 

[JohnAdams]

I guess no one really knows the answer but I read many reports about tinnitus either stopping after sleep or starting after sleep.

Like with mine I can wake up at 6am and it's screaming, go back to sleep and at 9am and its quiet again. It's like a cycle it runs through and it depends on what part of the cycle your at when you wake up. I need a good night's sleep to stop a big spike though.

Today when I woke up it was loud (it wasn't when I went to bed)... I had to get up because it was late already but I think if I had been able to sleep for another hour then maybe it could have dropped. Although I have had 3 good days with low tinnitus so I was due for a loud day today.

Same with naps... I can have low tinnitus... fall asleep in front on the TV for 30 minutes and wake up with very loud tinnitus.

It seems to me that it has to be something to do with brainwave state... with the sleeping state having some kind of effect.

The cochlea has a circadian clock. Also, maybe it depends on the "wash cycle".

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191031174650.htm

 

[Ringeee]

Did you listen to anything to get this?

I watch YouTube videos as I fall asleep.