Why Is There No Tinnitus Cure?

[Red]

As I was in bed last nite, it must've been around 4:30, I started thinking about all the diseases we can cure now that they did not have a cure for back in, say, the 12th century. I mean, wasn't an infection deadly back then? Now you go to your local drugstore with a prescription for antibiotics and fast forward a month and you're fine.

By that rationale, in the year 3200 or 4500, people with T will get their OTC miracle pill and get on with their lives without this. Wrong century to have T I guess.

What cures? We don't actually have much. We had some big brealthroughs in late 19 century to mid 20's. 21st century is stagnation. Treatments, not cures, makes the big bucks. $$$ What exactly do we have a cure for.

Our medicine isn't that impressive. More things have no treatment than anything all. Just don't get unlucky with the genetic lottery... :/

 

[Emperor-Drax]

Anyone else remember the Reagan Administration's claim they'd have a cure for AIDS within two years?

 

[Angel Dust]

@Red It was more of an ironic comment on my part than a statement about the advanced state of medicine in the 21st century.

I meant to compare the time when there were no antibiotics or no aspirin or when we did not know anything about microbes or viruses with our own time, when the average Joe knows what an antibiotic is for or that it is not safe to eat food a fly has landed on.

Anyone else remember the Reagan Administration's claim they'd have a cure for AIDS within two years?

That was a very irresponsible promise to make, or a terribly ill-informed one.

 

[Bill Bauer]

Will you get unequivocal and unwavering support from absolutely everyone from your family to your doctor if you choose to be euthanised? YES!

I am pretty sure that in all of the countries where euthanasia is legal, one has to be less than 6 months before death to be able to apply to be euthanized. So in that person's case, everyone would still expect her to spend 14.5 years being very ill. Barbaric is what it is.

 

[Emperor-Drax]

it is not safe to eat food a fly has landed on.

Humans have these great things called immune systems, so we can safely eat that sandwich that a fly landed on for one second.

 

[Angel Dust]

Humans have these great things called immune systems, so we can safely eat that sandwich that a fly landed on for one second.

Is that similar to the five-second rule?

 

[Emperor-Drax]

Is that similar to the five-second rule?

Some places it's seven seconds!

But anyhoo I'm not wasting perfectly good food just because a bug made contact with it. I am so over my pedantic germaphobe days.

 

[Angel Dust]

Some places it's seven seconds!

But anyhoo I'm not wasting perfectly good food just because a bug made contact with it. I am so over my pedantic germaphobe days.

Me too

 

[Bill Bauer]

Humans have these great things called immune systems, so we can safely eat that sandwich that a fly landed on for one second.

The immune system won't keep you safe 100% of the time

just one fly on your food isn't a guarantee that you'll get sick from its germs. Depending on how many germs the fly carried, how long it sat on your food, and how strong your immune system is, you might never get infected, says Dr. Daniels.

https://www.rd.com/health/wellness/diseases-spread-by-flies/

 

[Angel Dust]

I wonder if that applies to roaches.

 

[Emperor-Drax]

The immune system won't keep you safe 100% of the time

Of course not, but I'm pretty lax regarding flies on food. Unless you're the bubble boy from Seinfeld, you should be fine.

 

[Bill Bauer]

Of course not, but I'm pretty lax regarding flies on food. Unless you're the bubble boy from Seinfeld, you should be fine.

In my comment, I was trying to say that your immune system won't keep you safe 100% of the times when a fly lands on your food.

 

[Emperor-Drax]

In my comment, I was trying to say that your immune system won't keep you safe 100% of the times when a fly lands on your food.

Ehhhh

 

[Lorac]

I am pretty sure that in all of the countries where euthanasia is legal, one has to be less than 6 months before death to be able to apply to be euthanized. So in that person's case, everyone would still expect her to spend 14.5 years being very ill. Barbaric is what it is.

Exactly right @Bill Bauer . There are only a few states in our country which support euthanasia at all and I think the six month rule applies in those states. I would be totally supportive of death by suicide for Huntington's patients. There is zero prospect for improvement and a 100% guarantee that life will get way worse!

The point of my post is that there should be a cure! They know who will get the disease, how they will get it, and approximately when. There is no mystery like there is with tinnitus.

 

[Lorac]

Of course not, but I'm pretty lax regarding flies on food. Unless you're the bubble boy from Seinfeld, you should be fine.

Well, I am not the boy in the bubble and I don't have an autoimmune disease as far as I know, but my sudden sensorineural hearing loss (and tinnitus) was probably caused by a gap in my immune system. There are so many causes for tinnitus!

 

[Contrast]

What cures? We don't actually have much. We had some big brealthroughs in late 19 century to mid 20's. 21st century is stagnation. Treatments, not cures, makes the big bucks. $$$ What exactly do we have a cure for.

Our medicine isn't that impressive. More things have no treatment than anything all. Just don't get unlucky with the genetic lottery... :/

The FDA and MHRA and organizations like them came in and held back scientific progress.

 

[Bleep]

As I was in bed last nite, it must've been around 4:30, I started thinking about all the diseases we can cure now that they did not have a cure for back in, say, the 12th century. I mean, wasn't an infection deadly back then? Now you go to your local drugstore with a prescription for antibiotics and fast forward a month and you're fine.

By that rationale, in the year 3200 or 4500, people with T will get their OTC miracle pill and get on with their lives without this. Wrong century to have T I guess.

this post just made me smile.

 

[coffee_girl]

Treatment = money to be made, returning customer for life

Cure=one time investment.

Which one would you choose if you spent 20 years researching and inventing a breakthrough for tinnitus?

Most people would choose to invent a treatment program that can be monetized and profit. That's how the world works... With monayyy

 

[Bleep]

Those members who had severe Tinnitus
- got well - and then came back to help others in true altruistic fashion, did not in my opinion have severe Tinnitus.
Mild Tinnitus is no sweat - I had it for 24 years and never even mentioned it.
Perfectly liveable.
A breeze, to me.
Severe Tinnitus is loud, intrusive, constant, and does not heal itself.
We know that once stereocilia have been destroyed they cannot regenerate.

Those members with nothing more than mild Tinnitus who offer the "I got over it, and you can too" simply prove that they are speaking from a point of ignorance, having no idea what this condition actually is.
All of the above is obviously in MNSHO.

Meditation and deep relaxation may help in the coping department, or so I have found.

Sorry, but I disagree. I always had tinnitus in the form of a loud train. I thought my head would explode and that others could hear it too. But it disappeared for a while, in phases. Now it is back. And usually, mild tinnitus sufferers can live with it after a quick year if it still continues. Don't assume others didn't have loud tinnitus, but I understand your pessimism. Loud tinnitus is a bitch.

 

[dpdx]

Nobody cares because tinnitus sufferers are the best little patsies in the world. Doctors and their Big Pharma pay masters shovel useless drugs at us for depression and anxiety and we gobble them up like candy making them billions a year. A cure is not in their interests at all. In fact it would lose them money long term so why invest in it?!

The coping industry built up around tinnitus keeps this whole scandal propped up by printing bullshit about 'tuning it out' and using drugs to help 'cope'.

You only have to look at this forum to see how deep this runs. We have dozens of coping industry evangelists infiltrating this site daily like a bad Pawel Jastroboff acid trip, tossing around bullshit coping industry slogans like confetti and suggesting all manner of drugs that 'helped' them.

They pop up under the guise of, 'hey guys! I had really bad tinnitus and now I'm just back to help you out!' ....... 'Now take this drugs and that drug and soon you'll learn to 'listen out' instead of 'listen in' and you'll be cured!!

Do not trust these rotten fucking apples. They are scum.

Sometimes I wish I get hit by a car or train so this misery can end.

 

[dpdx]

Treatment = money to be made, returning customer for life

Cure=one time investment.

Which one would you choose if you spent 20 years researching and inventing a breakthrough for tinnitus?

Most people would choose to invent a treatment program that can be monetized and profit. That's how the world works... With monayyy

I would definitely cure people. I dont give a shit about money. I am not greedy or selfish, to me people who do these types of stuff are criminals/evil people/sociopaths.

 

[Contrast]

Treatment = money to be made, returning customer for life

Cure=one time investment.

Which one would you choose if you spent 20 years researching and inventing a breakthrough for tinnitus?

Most people would choose to invent a treatment program that can be monetized and profit. That's how the world works... With monayyy

happy merchants.jpg run this world, but they always lose in the end.

 

[Bill Bauer]

Which one would you choose if you spent 20 years researching and inventing a breakthrough for tinnitus?

I would choose to develop a cure. Choosing to develop a treatment implies taking a risk that one of my competitors will develop a cure first, causing me to lose all of my investment. As long as that industry is not a monopoly, the issue you described is not really a problem.

 

[coffee_girl]

I would definitely cure people. I dont give a shit about money. I am not greedy or selfish, to me people who do these types of stuff are criminals/evil people/sociopaths.

I would do a hybrid of both, cure people first then invent a companion product to help prevent future exposure to tinnitus (like a pill taken 12 hours before loud noise exposure).

 

[dpdx]

I would do a hybrid of both, cure people first then invent a companion product to help prevent future exposure to tinnitus (like a pill taken 12 hours before loud noise exposure).

Oh god mine is so bad. My right saw of jaw is vibrating. Its so loud that I can hear it over everything just not the shower. I am crying right now how bad it is. Hyperacusis is so bad that I cant even raise my voice because it feels like somewone is pouring molten lava into my ears.

 

[coffee_girl]

I would choose to develop a cure. Choosing to develop a treatment implies taking a risk that one of my competitors will develop a cure first, causing me to lose all of my investment. As long as that industry is not a monopoly, the issue you described is not really a problem.

I can always count on you to make me feel better <3

 

[Alex Matyjasek]

Well I guess it's even harder to find a cure when you can't even detect the problem. If you can't start see what's wrong how can you figger out what to do?

I agree that money talks and your health who cares. That's capitalism for you. A lot of things have to be changed before we go to the right direction. If tinnitus was an epidemic, i'm sure something would have come out ages ago. There's not enough sufferers, and not enough people complaining.

 

[Emperor-Drax]

Well, I am not the boy in the bubble and I don't have an autoimmune disease as far as I know, but my sudden sensorineural hearing loss (and tinnitus) was probably caused by a gap in my immune system. There are so many causes for tinnitus!

Perhaps, but when it comes to matters of ingestion, I've learned to make peace with the earth's microorganisms.

 

[Contrast]

Well I guess it's even harder to find a cure when you can't even detect the problem. If you can't start see what's wrong how can you figger out what to do?

I agree that money talks and your health who cares. That's capitalism for you. A lot of things have to be changed before we go to the right direction. If tinnitus was an epidemic, i'm sure something would have come out ages ago. There's not enough sufferers, and not enough people complaining.

tinnitus is a neurlogical condition brought about by a loss of hearing parerel to phantom limb sensations.

The cure for tinnitus will come down to curing the hearing loss in most cases.

 

[Tinniger]

Why Is There No Tinnitus Cure?

I assume that tinnitus is only the description of a symptom of various diseases. Just as headaches are a symptom of different diseases.
In this respect, there can be no cure that applies to all cases.
However, if the trigger for tinnitus is clearly a blast trauma (e.g. the shot of a rifle), the damage to the hearing organ of the affected person should be similar.
Unfortunately, the trigger situation for tinnitus is not so clear in the majority of cases.