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You got me there bud... :) It was actually a really easy set-up. I approached the real ENT in a hallway and asked him if the rag in my hand smells like Chloroform to him. After that it was a really easy transition into his white coat along with a high end wrist watch given to him by Jastreboff...

All good Ed... bed time for me now.

You sir can hold my coat anytime..;)

I know what you said...the way it was worded leaves no room for misinterpretation... unfortunately. Again I have nothing against you personally so don't take this the wrong way.

I did Dave...but as I was already explaining above, lot of people do not feel comfortable with having their quotes shared on such public platform. This is a huge setback needless to say. So far I'm still fairly busy at work, so haven't had time to re-think my next strategy.

I'm not shy about speaking out...and when I get attacked, I tend to fight back. All good here bro...:)

Look... I know you mean well, but you did say what that the aim of the guide is for people not to be afraid.

I was asking you a simple question... you answered with bullshit to the sense that somehow I'm supposed to know who the ambassadors are. Well I don't..so perhaps you could fill me in if it's not too much trouble? But I understand if you have to run...;)

Anytime... after your condescending comments to me, you had earned it. Maybe you are one of those guys who can dish it out, but can't take it?

Yes I was, but then I run into a problem. Turns out some people don't want me to use their quotes because they are not comfortable.....that was the whole base of the book. Back to drawing board I guess. At least I'm trying.

What he really meant to say was: "let's cure the thing that nobody should be afraid of"

Sorry... I'm not in your little tinnitus "in" crowd.

Your personal attacks do not interest me...and sharing a post is not really too much work for anyone (at least I hope not). Also...getting told to "shut up" from a guy who not to long wrongfully accused me of trying to shut him up and "censor him" is really rich. Do you even read your shit...

And who exactly are the real advocates if you don't mind me asking? Is it the people whose AIM is to make sure that people are not afraid of tinnitus? What exactly is your definition of complaining? What I'm doing is pointing out the apologist bullshit, that is further delaying any chances for...

That is your opinion... Look I don't really need the cure that bad. My tinnitus is mild to moderate these days... but there are people on this forum who need help really badly. This is why shit like "don't be afraid of tinnitus" piss me off. And don't underestimate the power of sharing ideas on...

And exactly what kind of action do you propose I do? I already told you, I refuse to get involved in projects, that undermine tinnitus... Yes action speaks louder than words, but I'm not so sure if you speak English...or maybe you are just confused?

I was hoping to plant some kind of a seed and maybe people from here to send it to their friends, whom would maybe send it to theirs. It would be a good start... social media has lot of power...if enough people share it, who knows.

I will tell you what I'm doing outside this forum. I'm NOT undermining the tinnitus cause of those who suffer. By doing that I'm already doing more than those who do. So get off your high horse.

I did... I proposed an actual no nonsense tinnitus scale and trying to raise awareness that way. What else do you exactly want me to do?

I'm not making any assumptions... the lady herself said that the AIM of the project is for people not to be afraid of tinnitus. Do you know what the word AIM means?

Those are the ones who need support the most... those are the ones whose lives are literally in danger.

Ok you got me... I have no respect for people who downplay tinnitus. The fact that they worked really, really hard does not interest me.

Did you, or did you not say that your aim is for people not to be afraid of tinnitus? That one means literally EVERYTHING. It is a huge deal breaker with me, or anyone who wants tinnitus to be taken seriously. It's like saying "tinnitus is no big deal, but I want you to check out my...

Again... don't try to convince me about your worthy cause anymore. I already explained to you above, what the big issue is. Put it this way... Just by doing "nothing" (as you put it), I'm already doing more for the tinnitus cause than you people, because at least I'm NOT further undermining it...

Again.. as your colleague had stated earlier, your aim is to make sure that people are "not afraid of tinnitus". I'm not sure if I'm in some kind of Twilight Zone here and normal logic no longer applies, but if nobody is afraid, then tinnitus is not really a problem.. or is it? This is exactly...

You don't need to explain yourself anymore. As I stated earlier, you are doing an excellent job......at delaying any hope for a cure. Thanx again.

Yes but there is a huge difference there Ed...you are actually actively LOOKING for information on tinnitus. Most average people are not...but they still might read my scale out of curiosity, because it is short and to the point.

After what you wrote about your aim being "not wanting to scare people", I want nothing to do with you or your projects. If your aim is to delay the cure for as long as possible, then you are doing a great job...you don't need any help. If I didn't know better, I would think you are on...

And RIGHT THERE is the reason why nobody will take tinnitus seriously. Why would they? "There's nothing to be afraid of". What you are doing is putting yet another nail in the coffin of those, who are desperate for a cure. Great job.

Bingo...if the target demographic are mainly academics, whom don't mind reading some long 500 page essay along with all the sources, this is a great effort indeed. But if the target is supposed to be the guy/girl next door...my common sense tells me it's not going to happen, even if it is the...

Well, if this is supposed to be some sort of a guide to tinnitus for average person out there (as I understand it), the fact that most people's attention span is about maxed out by reading a restaurant menu needs to be taken into consideration.

I hope I'm wrong, but judging by your description it sounds like a very complicated lengthy write-up of sorts?

That is good news...are the Tinnitus Talk members allowed to make suggestions, or is it some kind of a behind the doors private project?

Not reacting to tinnitus is like not reacting to being continuously punched in the face. It is truly sad, that here we are in year 2018 and metaphorically speaking, tinnitus sufferers are basically being told to get used to be punched in the face by these people. Yet we put a man on the moon...

Yes Ed, sorry for late reply, but this is exactly what I'm trying to do. In order for someone on the outside to even begin to understand this condition, it HAS to be very much "drastically simplified". Think of it as building a house. Before you can build the walls and put on a roof, you need...

Reading your post is very heart breaking....yet you are still here helping others by providing all kinds of good information. I hope, that you do find peace at last.

Thank you for the kind words. There is also another rather eerie Titanic paralell here... The willingness to alienate and sacrifice the lower class citizens (in our case the "incessant whiners", whom are not buying into habituation schemes) for their own gains and misguided agendas.

If I understand your post correctly, you are suggesting to focus on the symptoms and leave the emotional distress out. I'm afraid this would only water down and further complicate the message. You see, your average person out there has no idea what a "little ear ringing" can do to them and how...

The main thing is the intrusiveness....volume is secondary and it is not that accurate means of assessment from what I'm able to gather. At the end of the day, what matters the most is how this affects your life. But this kind of stuff would be way too hard to convey to the average reader out...

As @Ed209 has correctly pointed out we indeed all are on the same ship. I hope nobody minds too much if I offer another analogy: The ship is slowly sinking and some of us are trying to figure out a way to send an SOS message to be rescued. But some don't like this approach, because they claim...

Another great strategy....you are a real thinker. Compare your opponent to Hitler. I can clearly see, that I hit a nerve with you somewhere... Your accusations and fantasies are now hitting a new low. Yes you got me...I'm trying to put all of you in a concentration camp. Anything else you got there?

I think that asking why you contradicting yourself was pretty rational, but I digress. I do understand, that the best strategy for someone in your position is to play offended and show yourself out when your contradictions are put into question. Each to their own I guess. Have a nice day.

You are clearly confused...there is no marginalizing on my part..I only point out the ugly facts. You on the other hand live in a fantasy world, that has nothing to do with reality. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you the guy who is/was currently enrolled in a trial for one of the upcoming...

I hope you feel great about your little jab attempt at Bam's message. It is exactly this kind of ignorance, that reinforces the beliefs that if someone suffers, it must be their fault or that they are just bunch of whiners. What exactly do you suggest that the "whiners" as you put it do about...

Yes I have also noticed the chest pounding/crying routine with some individuals. The only somewhat logical explanation would be, that maybe it is some kind of a coping mechanism at play here. Pounding their chest and telling us how nicely they are handling their situation could be some kind of...

Just like @Bam, I have no useful advice to give you... but I also understand what kind of hell you are going through. I only encourage that you do speak out about this horrid condition to anyone who listens... this is one way to get the message out. We need a cure or at least an effective...

Yes it is indeed very likely, that a scale like that would fail convey your particular situation. But if we want to convey a message to the average reader on the outside world, considering the average attention span, it needs to be as simple as possible and it is best to stick to bullet points...

Well, for example if you are unable to sleep, relax or focus because of tinnitus, I would say that the intrusiveness is pretty high and go from there. Some people are not as affected (usually in the milder categories) and some are affected more (usually the more severe cases). You can use that...

I would say the level of intrusiveness is or should be the determining factor. Each of us here instinctively know what level we are at (roughly) I did not even attempt to cover hyperacusis, because I was trying to keep it as short and to the point as possible. Before people out there can even...

Many debates have been raging here about the lack of awareness (or distinction) between different tinnitus levels amongst the general public, which is only amplified by the ignorance about this condition in the medical field and reinforced by propaganda from various so called tinnitus...

Yes as you had correctly pointed out there are hundreds of stories here just like yours.... You got lucky the first time and you might get lucky again, but tinnitus usually does not give second chances. In your situation, getting prednisone might not be a bad idea... something to consider for...

You need to remove yourself from that environment ASAP. Do you have any other family or friends you could stay with? If so, you need to make your move before your parents' ignorant attitudes kill you.

I applaud your efforts to try to solve this problem through natural means... there are few others here such as @JohnAdams, whom might appreciate this info (assuming it isn't old news to them): https://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/Article/2014/07/28/Study-Pycnogenol-relieves-tinnitus-symptoms...

Tinnitus is the sound equivalent to waterboarding. This is why the likes of CIA and others use sound as a means of extracting information out of people, whom cannot be cracked by the old fashioned beatings etc.. This is one way how information about Tinnitus should be presented to the public...

I'm guessing, that bitching about other peoples bitching must be your "weight" adding strategy?

Would you consider starting your own YouTube channel? Something like a "The Tinnitus Whistle Blower" maybe? Then we all could get anyone who cares to see for themselves what the ugly truth really looks like...contrary to the bullshit spewed by medical establishment, media and various so called...

Get rid of her ASAP...this person is not a good match for someone in your situation. Even if your spike subsides (which it probably will), it's only a matter of time before she will cause you to have another one...and that could be the one which won't. This person obviously does not give two...

Reading this makes me literally sick to my stomach. I hope that all the tinnitus apologists and chest pounders on this board do read your post very carefully and then think long and hard, before they try do downplay someone's situation ever again. The medical establishment already does a good...

Ideally, this is a perfect place for a team of investigative journalists to come into and expose this lethal condition for what it is... A short interview with the trembling man would likely reveal a sad story of yet another sufferer, who will most likely be forced to end his life in a gruesome...

That guy is a perfect example of yet another typical medical ass clown... I would like to revert to my old analogy of rigging a cattle prod to this guy's sack and jamming the trigger. Then it would be very interesting to observe, how long before "acceptance" and the subsequent "learning to...