2020 US Presidential Election

It may have been but that rent will come due after the crisis is over. The rent moratorium is not rent forgiveness. Meaning people that haven't paid the rent have had the bills piling up for a while now. Also that unemployment expired back in July.
I sometimes think COVID-19 may have been a smoke curtain to disguise a world that is already bankrupt. It is the excuse for neverending stimulus packages.
 
I sometimes think COVID-19 may have been a smoke curtain to disguise a world that is already bankrupt. It is the excuse for neverending stimulus packages.
Lol. The US has been bankrupt for a while. Some other posters make me "laugh."

"Biden is disappointing so far... too corporate... not doing enough." Do they mean the stimulus is too little? These complainers are whining about the stimulus not being enough, meanwhile no shouting or protesting about destroying the economy and small business, making businesses implement layoffs and killing jobs and on and on... but ma stimulus is not enooooof!

I guess Trump just let all this happen but Democrats and left wingers were mad at him for not destroying the economy fast enough!
 
Several months ago, I made a vow to help @PeteJ in this heavily biased left wing thread, despite myself having left leaning views. I still know how to argue from a libertarian angle.

I find it interesting that some leftists like to get a self esteem boost by making themselves look like civilized educated people, and anyone who disagrees with them (even on economics) is backwards and uneducated. I am a left leaning libertarian, but I noticed a trend in the far left is acting like anyone who disagrees with them is either uneducated or racist. In fact, I have seen a few people in this thread give off those tones. You should stop that because it's a snobby and bad habit to belittle people who disagree with you. I think the far left leaning media is giving them the illusion that they are smarter and more educated for supporting socialist policies. That's propaganda. "I agree with this socialist policy because I want to be a sophisticated smarty pants" propaganda.
Yeah, where were you til now?!? J/k.

Thanks for your support. But, I am used to being the lone wolf, getting shot at but I will survive.

My tinnitus on the other hand, those are like real bullets.
 
I agree, I think the problem with American politics is that, Hollywood and mainstream media are on the left side of the political spectrum which is causing many of those that support Republicans to stay quiet as they will get judged by their peers and cause conflict with each other which may lead them to losing their jobs in the entertainment industry for supporting Republicans.

It is so easy for them to sway the vote one way with their social media following. I know the majority of them supported Democrats and it feels like those people that support Republicans are a needle in a haystack full of Democrats which make it hard for them to speak up without conflict as no one from the left seems to want to listen and hear them out and discuss on the issue. That's why those celebrities that supported Republicans in the entertainment industry had to stay quiet or risk losing their jobs and I don't think this is okay and no one should be forced to vote for someone that they don't want to.

Now this is causing a flow on effect to normal citizens and depending on who their friends are they may also get judged by their peers as well and what's happening within American politics is that in the media the Democrats are portrayed as good people and Republicans are portrayed as bad people. If your friends support the same party as you or if you are friends with people who support other political parties and both of you don't care then you're lucky but if you get those type of people that will disown you for supporting a different political party to them then we have a problem.
Agreed, really? But, you clicked 'like' for the posts mocking and criticizing me or my perspective. Heck, they even used entertainment memes. That implied or suggested a degree of smugness. Leftists particularly like that method in interacting and communicating for some reason.
 
Agreed, really? But, you clicked 'like' for the posts mocking and criticizing me or my perspective. Heck, they even used entertainment memes. That implied or suggested a degree of smugness. Leftists particularly like that method in interacting and communicating for some reason.
The only reason why I clicked like in those posts is that you still believe COVID-19 is a hoax and I agree on what posters such as @Ed209 have said about COVID-19.

If this is really a hoax, why the lockdowns then? If it really wasn't that bad compared to Ebola etc, then they wouldn't have lockdowns in the first place, but they did because COVID-19 is a contagious disease that is easily spread and could kill someone or someone would have suffered permanent side effects from it.

You were laughing at @Ed209's post about people dying from COVID-19 and showing a lack of empathy. I don't know what it would take for you to believe that COVID-19 is real.
 
The only reason why I clicked like in those posts is that you still believe COVID-19 is a hoax and I agree on what posters such as @Ed209 have said about COVID-19.

If this is really a hoax, why the lockdowns then? If it really wasn't that bad compared to Ebola etc, then they wouldn't have lockdowns in the first place, but they did because COVID-19 is a contagious disease that is easily spread and could kill someone or someone would have suffered permanent side effects from it.

You were laughing at @Ed209's post about people dying from COVID-19 and showing a lack of empathy. I don't know what it would take for you to believe that COVID-19 is real.
It would be one thing if he (Ed) were talking about people dying in a general sense but he was talking about people he knew personally. I would be *furious* if someone put a laugh emoji in response to my friends dying.

It's a lot harder to show empathy for someone who doesn't appear to have it for others.
 
It would be one thing if he (Ed) were talking about people dying in a general sense but he was talking about people he knew personally. I would be *furious* if someone put a laugh emoji in response to my friends dying.

It's a lot harder to show empathy for someone who doesn't appear to have it for others.
Same. I would be pissed as well if someone put a laugh emoji if I knew someone personally who died from COVID-19.

I also don't think @PeteJ has personally apologised to @Ed209 for using the laugh emoji when he stated he knew 9 people that died from COVID-19.

@PeteJ, if you knew someone personally who died from COVID-19, would you have used the laugh emoji then too, or do you only use it when it is someone else other than your family and friends who died from COVID-19?
 
I read on American real estate forums that some tenants were not paying rent but they got like $4,800 dollars per month in unemployment benefits. Is that true?
It's certainly possible that some people were in that situation for some period of time, given how all this has played out, but rent moratoriums are not at all the same as rent forgiveness. That is, at some point, those people are going to get smacked with a large bill, so if they weren't paying rent or setting the money aside they were setting themselves up for misery.
 
Have you seen the new Bernie Sanders meme that's been circulating? I can't stop laughing :LOL:
We've been having a lot of fun with it on the Vermont Reddit, too, but I am just going to use this as an excuse to plug some local business.

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Practical, locally made, reasonably priced hardcore winter jacket. Practical, inexpensive Japanese wool pants; practical, very Vermont gloves.

That's my Senator!!
 
We've been having a lot of fun with it on the Vermont Reddit, too, but I am just going to use this as an excuse to plug some local business.

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Practical, locally made, reasonably priced hardcore winter jacket. Practical, inexpensive Japanese wool pants; practical, very Vermont gloves.

That's my Senator!!
Collectively, this meme is in the top 1%. Bernie would hate that.
 
I picture everyone as a talking version of their profile picture. So I really do imagine you typing away as that green guy :D

I imagine @aot as Humphrey Bogart (his old profile picture), @Lucifer as Drake, @GlennS as Archer, and @Daniel Lion as the little monkey in his 'mood' bar. I think I lack imagination :eek:
Hi Tanni,

Around my house I am known to be called Monkey. My wife likes to call me Monkey and tickle me sometimes. So I do bear a likeness to that cheeky monkey. Thanks Tanni.

@Tweedleman, being a spirit guide is the highest honor. Thank you.
I hope to be that way for my kids. Two steps forward and one step back, but I am always trying.

Take care buddy, I 'll see you around.
 
Bruce slayed this performance.

Hope this works.



Gonna clock off again and think about my stuff now. Gonna work on obliterating my ego, dealing with health, my loved ones.

Take care all and give each other a chance and fresh mind if you can.

Sincerely,
Daniel
 
About half of Republicans don't think Joe Biden should be sworn in as president

50% of Republicans think the election was not legit.

I think there are some major divisions in the populace and I don't see the Biden administration doing anything to change it whatsoever.

These divisions are relatively transparent and clear but I think the numbers are less apparent so it's difficult to identify clear numbers and statistics there. Anyway, these divisions are as follows:

1) Democrats who approve and support the status quo - Biden win, but want or expect certain policies
2) Far Left - glad Trump is out but may protest and riot depending... have demands
3) Republicans - don't want to be associated with Trump and ready to become opposition to Biden
4) Republicans - loyal to and support Trump - perceive election as stolen; election fraud
5) Right Wingers - perceive corruption, Trump selling out, being weak and Democrats as stealing the election
6) Far Right - against both parties; perceive "Democracy" as fake and in name only.

These divisions are quite fractured and although some groups might be able to have some meetings of the minds, most are too different and divided to find common ground. (IMHO).

I hope you liked or can tolerate this post. I'm done participating so it's my last here for a long while, I think. Yep.
 
I would have told Biden to take good care of himself, so that the woman he selected as VP for us, does not become president. Personally, I think that he (Biden) picked her as insurance against being impeached, or being asked to leave due to health problems.
 
I would have told Biden to take good care of himself, so that woman VP does not become president. Personally, I think that he (Biden) picked her as insurance against being impeached, or being asked to leave due to health problems.
Lol. Definitely not. Captain Q is already trying to impeach Biden.
 
Biden killed this already; doesn't make much sense. We're not going to go green overnight. Hauling oil with trucks causes carbon. People like cheap gas.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/al...closest-friend-by-canceling-keystone-pipeline

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It would have been much better to reduce it slowly rather than stop it completely. It's not like people will suddenly switch to environmental friendly options quickly. The price of an EV is still too expensive for an average person to afford.

The best way I reckon they should have done this is to slowly stop accepting new applicants for jobs in the oil industry and trying to get applicants to apply for environmental friendly jobs so that it's a slow rollout but making sure that most people don't lose their jobs.
 
It would have been much better to reduce it slowly rather than stop it completely. It's not like people will suddenly switch to environmental friendly options quickly. The price of an EV is still too expensive for an average person to afford.

The best way I reckon they should have done this is to slowly stop accepting new applicants for jobs in the oil industry and trying to get applicants to apply for environmental friendly jobs so that it's a slow rollout but making sure that most people don't lose their jobs.
It's not like Biden shut down the entire sector, his plan is to phase out fossil fuels over 10-20 years.
 
Speaking of EVs, they're getting cheaper and better. There's one for $4,000 now and I assume you will see more similar prices in the future:



You could follow some of Norway's policies by subsidising purchases of EVs and give the owners of them some special privileges to encourage everyone to buy an electric car, which will then strengthen the EV industry and should create some new jobs:

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Speaking of EVs, they're getting cheaper and better. There's one for $4,000 now and I assume you will see more similar prices in the future:

You could follow some of Norway's policies by subsidising purchases of EVs and give the owners of them some special privileges to encourage everyone to buy an electric car, which will then strengthen the EV industry and should create some new jobs:

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The fact that you could probably buy that car and then have shipped here for less than you would just buy a car here is kinda sad. You could literally give every American with a license one if you wanted to.
 
Speaking of EVs, they're getting cheaper and better. There's one for $4,000 now and I assume you will see more similar prices in the future:

You could follow some of Norway's policies by subsidising purchases of EVs and give the owners of them some special privileges to encourage everyone to buy an electric car, which will then strengthen the EV industry and should create some new jobs:

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EVs are way too expensive in New Zealand. We don't get any subsidies for buying EVs which is a shame. I hope the NZ Government starts offering incentives for owning an EV as this will definitely speed up the process of lowering emissions.
 

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