2024 US Presidential Election

[Jammer]

Regarding the upcoming Trump trials, I think it could be in our best interest to see the courtroom and trials via a C-SPAN feed for all networks, especially on the January 6th trial, and see the steps Trump and company took to get there. It is important to show all the pieces of evidence and uncover his guilt or innocence.

Given the unique nature of these cases and this defendant, we should have a moral desire to witness the proceedings as they happen. At the very least, the proceedings should be recorded and released soon afterwards to the public, to avoid some of the obvious pitfalls of live broadcasts... between the grandstanding inside the courtroom and the minute-by-minute agitation of TV and internet.

At a minimum, a public record is necessary, if only for future generations to review their history; the trials should be recorded and put into the National Archives.

I know this could be wishful thinking, but it would be quite illuminating and help me pass the time.

 

[ZFire]

As bad as it is for Trump at the moment, it's time for a reminder that this man was able to secure 74+ million votes in 2020.

I think it's still important to express caution and to remind people what happened in 2016. After 2016, anything in this political climate is possible. I would under no circumstance take the foot off the gas like the Democrats so lovingly choose to do sometimes.

 

[Luman]

As bad as it is for Trump at the moment, it's time for a reminder that this man was able to secure 74+ million votes in 2020.

I think it's still important to express caution and to remind people what happened in 2016. After 2016, anything in this political climate is possible. I would under no circumstance take the foot off the gas like the Democrats so lovingly choose to do sometimes.

A NYT poll, last week, showed that Trump and Biden are neck and neck, dead even. I would rather a different candidate run as a Republican, but there is no way I'm voting for Biden - and this is coming from somebody who voted for Bill Clinton, Obama, and Hillary.

Biden is a War Monger who needs to go. Trump has said that he will prevent WWIII, while Biden seems to not be worried about it at all.

 

[Jammer]

As bad as it is for Trump at the moment, it's time for a reminder that this man was able to secure 74+ million votes in 2020.

I think it's still important to express caution and to remind people what happened in 2016. After 2016, anything in this political climate is possible. I would under no circumstance take the foot off the gas like the Democrats so lovingly choose to do sometimes.

I've got my hand on the throttle and maintaining traction.

When you think of the Trump federal indictments, I always remind my Republican friends that all witnesses against Trump are Republicans and many were in his cabinet.

Never fails to shut them up.

 

[Joey72]

Different dogs, same fleas. It's the uniparty, republicans and democrats ,kids wake up none of them care about you.

 

[Joey72]

Exactly why I said what I said because it's the truth about those who believe that Trump is their guy. But my tone was much softer than what he deserves. Criminal, rapist and mob boss are more fitting descriptions of Trump, but I left those out since I asked for more decorum in this new thread.

I gotta call them as I see them, only now with less bite.

I don't understand. You complained when she wasn't acknowledged, but now that she is, you basically post the same thing. I thought this would make you happy?

Ask Tara Reid what she thinks of Biden.

 

[Daniel Lion]

As bad as it is for Trump at the moment, it's time for a reminder that this man was able to secure 74+ million votes in 2020.

I think it's still important to express caution and to remind people what happened in 2016. After 2016, anything in this political climate is possible. I would under no circumstance take the foot off the gas like the Democrats so lovingly choose to do sometimes.

No doubt, he still lost the popular vote twice but the electoral college makes for a whole different game.

Hopefully the Dems will get everyone out to vote in the United States that are red or swinging.

 

[RunningMan]

No doubt, he still lost the popular vote twice but the electoral college makes for a whole different game.

Which is the game they play by. They would campaign differently if they were going for the popular vote, but it doesn't mean anything as it is.

 

[Jammer]

Ask Tara Reid what she thinks of Biden.

Ask Tara Reid what she thinks of breast augmentation.

 

[Luman]

Biden is now being bashed for his migrant policies by progressives, conservatives, liberals, and independents. He is the worst president in my lifetime and probably the worst in over a century.

The Governor of Massachusettes, Maura Healey, a Democrat, has declared a State of Emergency over the surge of migrants in her state. They are not permitted to work.

New York City is also in a state of emergency, due to almost 100,000 migrants being sent to NYC since the spring, with no Federal aid. When winter arrives, the migrants who are currently living in the streets, or in tents, will have to be dealt with. Seattle, WA, is also overrun with them. The so-called Sanctuary Cities and States need to stop taking them.

There is now an increase in polio and TB, from the migrants, as well as prostitution, drugs, and other quality of life, or worse, crimes due to their presence.

As usual, Trump was right, he tried to keep the border secure, but Biden changed all of that.

 

[ZFire]

Which is the game they play by. They would campaign differently if they were going for the popular vote, but it doesn't mean anything as it is.

The popular vote especially in battleground states is very important because those states have a significant influence on the outcome of a presidential election. In most cases, winning the popular vote within a state usually leads to winning its electoral votes, so basically candidates from both parties (yes, Republicans too) need to win the popular vote to secure their electoral votes (winner-takes-all), more so within purple states especially because they are the determining factor of who wins the presidency.

We know the battleground states are closely contested and can swing either way, so winning the popular vote there can have a substantial impact on the overall election results. Republicans don't do anything differently in this regard. They are good at campaigning and messaging, I'll give them that though.

 

[RunningMan]

The popular vote especially in battleground states is very important because those states have a significant influence on the outcome of a presidential election. In most cases, winning the popular vote within a state usually leads to winning its electoral votes, so basically candidates from both parties (yes, Republicans too) need to win the popular vote to secure their electoral votes (winner-takes-all), more so within purple states especially because they are the determining factor of who wins the presidency.

We know the battleground states are closely contested and can swing either way, so winning the popular vote there can have a substantial impact on the overall election results. Republicans don't do anything differently in this regard. They are good at campaigning and messaging, I'll give them that though.

The post I responded to was referring to "the" popular vote in contrast to the electoral college. You are referring to "popular votes within specific states", but in a U.S. presidential election, the popular vote simply means an aggregate of all voters from all states in America. It's not referring to an individual state. But a candidate can win the electoral college by winning enough states' electoral votes and still lose the national popular vote, as was mentioned and as has happened multiple times.

So, if it was the popular vote that mattered, candidates on both sides would campaign differently because they would be trying to get the most votes across the entire country rather than individual states for electoral votes. Since that's not the game they're playing, the result of the popular vote not only doesn't matter, it doesn't really mean anything. That doesn't stop people from bringing it up though, as if there was any significance.

 

[ZFire]

The post I responded to was referring to "the" popular vote in contrast to the electoral college. You are referring to "popular votes within specific states", but in a U.S. presidential election, the popular vote simply means an aggregate of all voters from all states in America. It's not referring to an individual state. But a candidate can win the electoral college by winning enough states' electoral votes and still lose the national popular vote, as was mentioned and as has happened multiple times.

So, if it was the popular vote that mattered, candidates on both sides would campaign differently because they would be trying to get the most votes across the entire country rather than individual states for electoral votes. Since that's not the game they're playing, the result of the popular vote not only doesn't matter, it doesn't really mean anything. That doesn't stop people from bringing it up though, as if there was any significance.

Well sure, the national popular vote doesn't mean much at face value. Its only significance is that it's used as an indicator for overall public sentiment. Some states are more far populous than others like California for instance, and so that's reflected in the overall numbers too.

Btw, I was emphasizing Trump's 70+ million votes to underscore the potential repercussions of a lower voter turnout within the Democratic camp, especially in swing states. I thought you were dismissing the importance of a statewide popular vote in the electoral college. That's how electoral votes are allocated.

 

[RunningMan]

I thought you were dismissing the importance of a statewide popular vote in the electoral college. That's how electoral votes are allocated.

Definitely not. That's not the popular vote. I'm surprised there was any confusion about this The post I had quoted and responded to mentioned that Trump lost the popular vote twice. That's a commonly mentioned thing thing about Trump losing the popular vote and has been in reference to the national popular vote. But pretty much meaningless as they are campaigning to win the electoral college.

 

[Jammer]

"If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy." —David Frum

 

[ZFire]

A NYT poll, last week, showed that Trump and Biden are neck and neck, dead even. I would rather a different candidate run as a Republican, but there is no way I'm voting for Biden - and this is coming from somebody who voted for Bill Clinton, Obama, and Hillary.

Joe Biden Administration Approval Ratings and Hypothetical Voting Intention (5-6 August 2023)

So I've been reviewing some of the most recent polls and yeah, Trump is currently holding a slight lead over Biden. What's catching my attention is that Biden has comfortable leads over the other Republican candidates, but not with Trump. It's crazy how much of a stranglehold Trump continues to have over the Republican Party.

I definitely don't think this upcoming election is going to be a landslide victory for either side. It's clear that a President with a 40% approval rating and questions about their age might face an uphill battle in winning by a wide margin. I still think Biden will likely win though, but it will be close. Trump's indictments and potential convictions could put a dent to his efforts and save this election for Dems.

I've been trying to locate polls that reflect the sentiment of independent voters following the Trump indictments. I'm curious to know where they stand now. I can't seem to find the answer to this.

 

[Juan]

It would be interesting to see Donald Trump and Hunter Biden jailed together. They could share tips about corruption and update their agendas, haha.

 

[Luman]

These indictments are election interference - a deliberate attempt by the Democrats to keep Trump from running a campaign. If he was not running, they would not have indicted him.

The Democrats are already scared to death, as he is the front-running Republican and tied neck and neck with Biden in the polls. If Trump wins, there will be hell to pay for what they have done to him.

Joe Biden is using banana republic methods of suppressing his political challenger and many people know this.

 

[Jammer]

Nobody has tried to explain NFTs to me in months. Another win for Biden.

These indictments are election interference - a deliberate attempt by the Democrats to keep Trump from running a campaign. If he was not running, they would not have indicted him.

The Democrats are already scared to death, as he is the front-running Republican and tied neck and neck with Biden in the polls. If Trump wins, there will be hell to pay for what they have done to him.

Joe Biden is using banana republic methods of suppressing his political challenger and many people know this.

They wouldn't be Trump indictments if Republicans stopped thinking only about themselves being indicted. I guess they fear prison more than Trump.

 

[Jammer]

Popcorn time. Many people know this.

 

[ZFire]

November 5th 2024, I think it's going to come down to three states — Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Arizona. Ohio and Florida are long gone to Trump and to the Republicans and will stay that way for a good while.

Popcorn time. Many people know this.

Rudy Giuliani getting a taste of his own medicine — indicted on RICO criminal charges, the same charges he played a role in pioneering. Imagine that lol...

 

[Luman]

 

[Jammer]

Rudy Giuliani getting a taste of his own medicine — indicted on RICO criminal charges, the same charges he played a role in pioneering. Imagine that lol...

I wouldn't be surprised if Rudy ends up filing for bankruptcy and has to get a court-appointed attorney, even after he sells his NYC apartment that's up on the market now. His trip to Mar-a-largo to beg Trump to pay him for his attorney services was unsuccessful.

Giuliani is currently facing a $2.7 billion Smartmatic suit, election workers defamation suit, $10 million sexual assault and harassment suit, and of course the Georgia Rico Charges. Good luck, asshole.

Interestingly, Trump is now complaining that Fox is intentionally showing unflattering angles of his chin. You'd think a billionaire could get himself a more flattering chin, but fighting against a Big Mac addiction is a losing battle.

 

[ZFire]

Interestingly, Trump is now complaining that Fox is intentionally showing unflattering angles of his chin. You'd think a billionaire could get himself a more flattering chin, but fighting against a Big Mac addiction is a losing battle.

 

[ZFire]

Trump voters trust him more than their families, religious leaders: poll

Trump voters are more likely to believe the former president is telling them the truth than their friends and family or religious leaders, according to a new CBS News/YouGov poll.

The big picture: The poll finds that Trump continues to dominate the race for the 2024 nomination, with 62% of likely GOP primary voters supporting him, while only 16% said they would vote for Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.

• The poll sheds light on why Trump's support within the GOP base is so hard for other candidates to shake.

By the numbers: Among those who are at least considering voting for Trump, 95% believe he "fights for people like me," while 99% believe things were better under Trump.

• Among those who plan to vote for Trump, 71% feel that what he tells them is true — higher than the results for friends and family (63%), conservative media figures (56%) or religious leaders (42%).

• The percentage of those who consider Trump a source of truth drops to 53% among all likely GOP primary voters, in a sign that some remain skeptical of his claims.

• However, that's still higher than the 44% who trust religious leaders and 32% who trust medical scientists — and far higher than the 10% who trust President Biden.

Some say it's a cult. The evangelicals are evolving interestingly enough. Goodbye Jesus. You had one hell of a run.

Anyway, considering these impressive numbers for Trump, it's no wonder that he's opting out of the first GOP primary debate.

 

[Ed209]

I'll keep my post brief. I think @Markku and @Hazel should be president/vice president (in either order) because then maybe, finally, real things would be achieved that would help humanity.

I'm tired of leaders and senators that are nothing more than career politicians interested in self-preservation. There are too many people in places of power that are there to benefit themselves who have no morals or interest in trying to make meaningful improvements to the societies they are a part of.

People like @Markku and @Hazel have repeatedly demonstrated what real selfless humans look and behave like. Imagine what they'd achieve with a proper budget! Tinnitus would likely be solved by the end of the year for starters.

I'm tired of all the grifters stealing a living.

 

[Elmer B Fuddled]

Shakespeare said we are all actors and the world is the stage. And he was correct. The biggest little show on earth. The Orange Idiot, his idiotic followers and the Republicans.

Hang 'em, hang 'em from the nearest tree. Orange baby is nobody's apple in an eye. More like ass with no apple or eyes.

The whole lot, there hasn't been so much political upheaving since the American Revolution.

Vote for @Markku.

 

[Joey72]

It would be interesting to see Donald Trump and Hunter Biden jailed together. They could share tips about corruption and update their agendas, haha.

Don't forget the alleged rapist and war criminal Joe Biden. While we're at it, let's throw in the other war criminals Baby Bush, Obomber and Hillary Clinton in prison.

 

[Jammer]

At a worth of 2.5 billion USD, Trump is doing fine, financially, and his campaign isn't off to a bad start, either.

Do you think Trump is a stable genius for not helping his co-conspirators with their legal defense funding? He's so rich he could find enough coins in his couch cushions for everyone.

You'd think he'd want the best defense possible for his cohorts, unless you still believe he did nothing wrong (perfect phone call and all).

BTW:I'm betting that Trump will weigh in tomorrow at 250 lbs. at least. Could be more.

 

[Juan]

Don't forget the alleged rapist and war criminal Joe Biden. While we're at it, let's throw in the other war criminals Baby Bush, Obomber and Hillary Clinton in prison.

I'm surprised the US has not intervened yet in Niger, taking into account that country is rich in uranium, used to produce nuclear weapons. Now Niger is in hands of a bunch of bandits and no one seems to care.

So at the end of the day, it seems Joe Biden has dragged the US to support a war in Ukraine, only for personal reasons, like covering up his son's antics and dealings in Ukraine.