MemberOh wow. I just gave this a try. This really seems to quiet my T for a while. I need to experiment with this more!
Thanks @Steve @generalfuzzAcoustic CR® Neuromodulation: Do It Yourself Guide
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Oh wow. I just gave this a try. This really seems to quiet my T for a while. I need to experiment with this more!
Thanks @Steve @generalfuzz
Can anyone made an MP3 from the ACRN? So that I can playing it on my Nokia. My frequence is 1,5khz, that's the ugly T. I have also T on the other ear with circa 3khz. I hope when I use it for the 1,5khz the 3khz not will become louder. I have no Computer here and my Nokia not playing it. Thx
Has anybody thought about, or even tried, using vagus nerve stimulation together with this treatment?
- Apr 18, 2013
- 1,633
- Tinnitus Since
- 2003
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
@seppl Try the musical one on post 276 that Sound Wave mentions above. I have 2 different tones and I went on the trial for ANM and it didn't work for me, but the musical one does.
@Sound Wave It quietens mine for a while too. I use it when I have a spike to calm the T down, though I keep meaning to try it longer term as I think it will work just as the ANM device is supposed to. It's just a theory of course, I would love to get a study group together to see if it works. Imagine we develop this further as a low cost therapy that works for everyone with an iPod, how cool would that be?
@Sound Wave It quietens mine for a while too. I use it when I have a spike to calm the T down, though I keep meaning to try it longer term as I think it will work just as the ANM device is supposed to. It's just a theory of course, I would love to get a study group together to see if it works. Imagine we develop this further as a low cost therapy that works for everyone with an iPod, how cool would that be?
- Jul 21, 2013
- 842
- Tinnitus Since
- 01/2013
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma from headphones
A mobile page version of the site would be very cool.
It would be pretty straightforward to write. For starters, all of the javascript is on @generalfuzz 's page. I've discovered some bugs with it in Chrome and I'm sure I can figure some more stuff out with it, but it would be repurposable into a mobile app.
but i will look at the post 276.
- Jul 2, 2013
- 45
- Tinnitus Since
- 01/2013
- Cause of Tinnitus
- ototoxic reaction to relafen
So I'm a little confused on what neromodulation is supposed to do. Is it supposed to help us habituate or is it literally supposed to quiet down the tinnitus? How long should we listen to this? I'm not sure if I should be doing this for 5 minutes or an hour?
- Apr 18, 2013
- 1,633
- Tinnitus Since
- 2003
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
Hi Matt,
It's meant to reprogram the brain to stop hearing tinnitus. In the protocol for the treatment they ask you to listen for 4-6 hours per day at a volume level where you can hear the tones but they are not loud or distracting.
Neuromodulation or Notched white noise? I think the study's says that notched white noise is more successful, but I'm not sure. I have not enough time use both techniques. Which is more effective?
Hey thanks for that info Steve. I guess I better finally get myself an iPod or something, lol.
I have been doing this (more or less). I practice Yoga (which has been found to activated the vagus nerve). During my practice at home I tend to listen to these beeps (or white noise). Does I work....I do not know, but my tinnitus has been changing for the last 3 months (I am 7 month in).
1. The pitch is lower. It was 18kHz @ 15 dB
2. I cannot pitch match anymore, as soon as I hear a pure tone remotely equal to my tinnitus, my tinnitus becomes inaudible (and stays gone for a at least a while). I know this is residual inhibition, but the seems to grow longer and longer over the months.
3. Either the volume has dropped or it does not bother me as much anymore.
Is the yoga in combination with this sound therapy making me better? I don't know. I do feel better and I enjoy my practice ---> I will keep doing this for a long long time.
The combination of vagus nerve stimulation with the CRN seems logical. It should speed-up to process.
Currently I hardly do any still meditation. Only after Yoga practice I count down my breaths for a while. During Yoga I do tend to keep my mind as empty as possible. I try to keep my body free from tension and focus and slow deep abdominal breath (pull down the diaphragm).
I think this type of practice is really the only way to fundamentally calm your nervous system down. Anyway.....this (more or less) natural way of stimulating your own vagus nerve seems to help me....
I would say, just give it a go combined with CR program....
- Apr 18, 2013
- 1,633
- Tinnitus Since
- 2003
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
What about your hearing, how high does it go?@Steve, any chance
- Apr 18, 2013
- 1,633
- Tinnitus Since
- 2003
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
I keep meaning to as it really helps me. I just use it when I have a bad day or a spike, to calm the T down. I'm really busy at the minute, when my focus is deep into working the T is out of mind - still there but not foremost in my thoughts.
I want to trial it for a prolonged period of time, probably 3 months. To do that properly I need to find the right ear/headphones that don't interfere with my hearing; I was going to try some bone conduction headphones to see how they work. The ones they give with the ANM device aren't good for me, they sit right in the ear canal and I really dislike them. Feels unnatural to me being so close.
- Apr 18, 2013
- 1,633
- Tinnitus Since
- 2003
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
I'll look into it, give me a day or so. My hearing is around 13KHz too so I can easily find the highest pitch. I think I selected 10KHz originally so that almost everybody could hear it.
I first learned about this by watching a Youtube link. But I have tried using this for about 20 minutes at a time before from the link on here, and it really does seem to quiet down my tinnitus! It has made me a believer that if someone were to actually follow the proper protocol/treatment, that this actually could make it so the brain no longer hears the T. In my opinion, that would beat habituation.
Hi can someone help me with matching? I have kind of cicada like sound in the left ear and ear plane sounds in both ears. I can't match a tone but found that around 865hz generalfuzz sounds were most comfortable. You guys are all up so much higher and I am thinking I won't get an affect with out knowing right tone. I play the tones and none match. What should I do?
I don't know where my T is. It is high-pitched and probably somewhere > 8 khz. But when I select 10 kHz, it lowers my T. Maybe you supply a 10 kHz mp3 file here. Thanks.
Thanks @Martin69. I will try a few different ones. It was weird today I played for around an hour and half the 879 hz which gives 1252 hz at the top tone and one hour later after I was not listening any more I had a horrible high tone in my left ear. It calmed after one hour but scared me. I am going to try again. I wish I could get some result from something but every drug I have tried so far has made it worse. I am very frusterated
I did this with dedication for two months. Recorded the tones , one recording for my 3.1khz tone and one for the higher one which I am guessing is at aroound 12 khz , made a notched version of my crickets sound and mixed the tones into that.
No result. Keep in mind that I combined the two techniques ,notched sounds and acrn.
No result. Keep in mind that I combined the two techniques ,notched sounds and acrn.
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I tried this for one day . I listened in my car/apartment for 20-40 min stretches . probably about 90-110 minutes total and found it did work for about a few minutes. For those of you that this worked for, how long did you have listen for?
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