Are There Any Inspirational Bible Verses That Have Helped You with Tinnitus or Depression?

I won't comment about religion in this thread, for the reasons I listed in my earlier post here.

Those are the people who brought prosperity to everyone else, so...

That's what they've been doing - the only way to earn money (without breaking the law, and when there is competition) is to do something good for other people. This means that what they earn measures their contribution.

That salary measures this person's contribution to society. It sounds like that person had already contributed more than you and I will contribute in our lifetimes, so give them a break.

The big bankers bring us prosperity by controlling the money supply and charging us interest for loans? Last time I checked, people that invent things and work bring prosperity. Also last time I checked the big bankers messes up the economy in perfect timing for me to graduate college and get in the work force.
 
The big bankers bring us prosperity by controlling the money supply and charging us interest for loans?
They bring prosperity by creating financial products that ultimately ensure that projects get financing. You can think of these products are machines, and you can think of the bankers as the engineers. The interest ensures efficiency - the money goes to the most productive projects (as none of the projects with the expected return below the rate of interest will get financing).

Here is an example to give you a sense of why you can think of finance as technology that increases the amount of goods that can be produced. Suppose a farmer will plant wheat if the farmer can sell the wheat for more than $3 a bushel. Right now the price is $3.05 per bushel. The problem is that wheat takes time to grow. Risk averse farmers will not want to plant wheat, as there is a high chance that the price will fluctuate and be below $3 by the time the wheat is ready to be harvested and sold. "The bankers" created a futures contract. It allows the farmer to enter a contract to receive $3.05 per bushel when the wheat is ready to be harvested. A futures contract allows people to trade risk. The farmer sells the risk to the people who want to take on the risk (who enter into a contract to buy the wheat at $3.05 when the wheat is ready to be harvested) - the speculators. As a result, the farmer will go ahead and plant the wheat without having to worry about the world wheat price.
Last time I checked, people that invent things and work bring prosperity.
They wouldn't be able to bring their products to market and to have a job without the bankers. The value of the bankers' contribution is above whatever it is they earn, as people enter into contracts with the bankers voluntarily, and they wouldn't do it if what they got out of the contract would have a lower value than what they had to pay to benefit from the contract.
 
but we rejoice in our sufferings

Apostle Paul is a very good cheer leader.
Under great persecution, he still encourages Christians to have faith.
Do not quit. Do not give up. T sufferers move forward ....

"13 But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus." -- Philippians chapter 3 (Paul in Roman jail)
 
They bring prosperity by creating financial products that ultimately ensure that projects get financing. You can think of these products are machines, and you can think of the bankers as the engineers. The interest ensures efficiency - the money goes to the most productive projects (as none of the projects with the expected return below the rate of interest will get financing).

Here is an example to give you a sense of why you can think of finance as technology that increases the amount of goods that can be produced. Suppose a farmer will plant wheat if the farmer can sell the wheat for more than $3 a bushel. Right now the price is $3.05 per bushel. The problem is that wheat takes time to grow. Risk averse farmers will not want to plant wheat, as there is a high chance that the price will fluctuate and be below $3 by the time the wheat is ready to be harvested and sold. "The bankers" created a futures contract. It allows the farmer to enter a contract to receive $3.05 per bushel when the wheat is ready to be harvested. A futures contract allows people to trade risk. The farmer sells the risk to the people who want to take on the risk (who enter into a contract to buy the wheat at $3.05 when the wheat is ready to be harvested) - the speculators. As a result, the farmer will go ahead and plant the wheat without having to worry about the world wheat price.

They wouldn't be able to bring their products to market and to have a job without the bankers. The value of the bankers' contribution is above whatever it is they earn, as people enter into contracts with the bankers voluntarily, and they wouldn't do it if what they got out of the contract would have a lower value than what they had to pay to benefit from the contract.

I just cant comprehend how big banks are neccessary for prosperity to occur. They arent in it for public service, they do it because they love money. The love of money is the root of all evil.
 
They arent in it for public service, they do it because they love money.
See, when you earn money by helping others (which is the case for every transaction in the labor and goods markets: in the absence of coercion, the buyer of X values X more than what the buyer pays for X, and the seller values the payment more than X, so both benefit from the transaction), the more a person wants money, the higher incentive that person has to find a way to be useful to others and to contribute to society. People respond to incentives. The person with the largest incentive will work the hardest to achieve his or her goal, and will get the most results (which translates to helping the most people/providing teh most valuable contribution).
 
See, when you earn money by helping others (which is the case for every transaction in the labor and goods markets: in the absence of coercion, the buyer of X values X more than what the buyer pays for X, and the seller values the payment more than X, so both benefit from the transaction), the more a person wants money, the higher incentive that person has to find a way to be useful to others and to contribute to society. People respond to incentives. The person with the largest incentive will work the hardest to achieve his or her goal, and will get the most results (which translates to helping the most people/providing teh most valuable contribution).
according to this, the Federal Reserve and fractional reserve lending is the greatest thing that ever happened. I think it all just screws wealth into the hands of a few.
 
according to this, the Federal Reserve and fractional reserve lending is the greatest thing that ever happened.
It is.
I think it all just screws wealth into the hands of a few.
For me, the important part is that these institutions increase everyone's standard of living and wealth. I don't mind the fact that a lot of the wealth ends up in the hands of the productive people who had actually generated it. I am not one of those productive people, and I am thankful to them for keeping my standard of living so high.
 
the Federal Reserve and fractional reserve lending is the greatest thing that ever happened
It dramatically increases the amount of funds available to be lent out. As a result there is more investment into capital (i.e., factories, machinery) and more gets produced, increasing our standard of living.
 
You guys, are ruining a great thread! This is bible verses and inspirational verses. Have respect for the OP and his thread....If you want to discuss another topic create a new thread, but don't burn this one down....

PS-By posting your own agenda, you show no respect for the OP at all....
 
You guys, are ruining a great thread! This is bible verses and inspirational verses. Have respect for the OP and his thread....If you want to discuss another topic create a new thread, but don't burn this one down....
I never understood the idea that every thread strictly needs to stay on a certain topic. A lot of threads are redundant threads, and if they didn't stray, then every similar thread would be a carbon copy of eachother.

MPP is based on that principle and it's the best thread on the site. I'm not saying threads like this should be deliberately detailed at all, but stifling tangents that arise from thread discussions (like this one) are part of exploring the idea further.
 
I agree with fishbone..
If you guys don't respect us but please respect the word from God.
I thought that we respect and support each other, we need a genuine heart here in order to support and help each sufferer.
 
@Robert18 @fishbone
"With the merciful You will show Yourself merciful …" 2 Samuel 22:26.
This is David's prayer to God while he was persecuted by Saul ( Bible 2nd Samuel )

We should be merciful and be tolerant to all who are interested in this thread.
"With mercy toward all. With evil toward none." -- Abraham Lincoln
 
If only god was interactive.
But he's not is he.....
He never writes, he never calls......
 
"Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. "
-- Hebrews chapter 11 verse 1

During Roman empire 2000 years ago, Christians are under great persecution including
the newly converted Jews. The Bible author of the book of Hebrews uses entire chapter 11
to encourage them to have faith in God.

Even though God is invisible but He is everywhere.
We need to have FAITH in Him.
 
"Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. "
-- Hebrews chapter 11 verse 1

During Roman empire 2000 years ago, Christians are under great persecution including
the newly converted Jews. The Bible author of the book of Hebrews uses entire chapter 11
to encourage them to have faith in God.

Even though God is invisible but He is everywhere.
We need to have FAITH in Him.

AMEN to that!
 
It is...kinda, there is no God in Buddhism which is why Buddhism is for everyone whether you are an atheist or a Christian! I used to be atheist but the older i got the more i realize that i am actually agnostic :). Buddhism is about balance, you can't completely rule out anything, kindness is good but don't be too much of anything. Love yourself but don't grow egotistical. Love but don't be blind to deception. Just my opinion =)
This isn't true. Buddhism doesn't lack god(s).
 
This isn't true. Buddhism doesn't lack god(s).
Maybe in certain sects of Buddhism but Buddhism is either a religion or a philosophy. Westerners generally view it as mostly philosophy whereas most Asians view it as religion. Fact is that nowhere in siddarthas teaching does he mention the existence of God nor does he advise you to pray to a God.
 
Maybe in certain sects of Buddhism but Buddhism is either a religion or a philosophy. Westerners generally view it as mostly philosophy whereas most Asians view it as religion. Fact is that nowhere in siddarthas teaching does he mention the existence of God nor does he advise you to pray to a God.
It's both. I'm Asian so I would see it as more of a religion. He doesn't engage with discussion about gods much but he absolutely mentions spiritual stuff. He lived in India so being an Indian aesthetic, he probably believed in the Indian gods.
 
It's both. I'm Asian so I would see it as more of a religion. He doesn't engage with discussion about gods much but he absolutely mentions spiritual stuff. He lived in India so being an Indian aesthetic, he probably believed in the Indian gods.
Yes he lived during a time of polytheism and he could very well be agnostic or even atheist but we don't really know and theory crafting really wouldn't lead anywhere anyway. He wasn't the first person in search of enlightenment and there were already famous and established Brahman's who preached about God on the daily. He couldn't possibly say that there was no god in a land of pagans because the very virtue of Buddhism is humility.

At it's core Buddhism is about the search for self enlightenment and the overcoming of suffering. Whether Gods are involved are irrelevant as it doesn't really matter anyway. I'm Asian too and technically we have Gods, but mostly it is a reflection of our culture and life style... not necessarily a radical belief that alters the teaching of Buddha in any way.
 

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