Bad Tinnitus Tips

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Gl0w0ut

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When I first acquired the bewitched ear (which is what this will be known as since ancient treatments as effective as modern ones) I searched the Internet for what to do about the ringing.

This one site I came across had two very bad pieces of advice on how to cope with and minimize tinnitus that should be noted:

1. Exercise/Increase Blood Circulation.
Obviously exercise has other health benefits, but solely in the case of tinnitus is poor advice. Imaging studies show numerous sites of neural hyperactivity in patients, which is associated with increased blood flow. To keep it flowing even more will only spur that hyperactivity. If anything, we want less fluid, more coagulated and less oxygen rich blood going to these areas. By starving them of the oxygen those neurons desperetly need, it should in theory hinder this activity. This way we can effectively block the brains attempts to compensate lost functions so they stay lost forever.

2. Avoid drugs that hurt neuroplasticity. This one is the most ridiculous. Neuroplasticity is what causes all the brain changes in the first place as the brain tries to "regain" its lost frequency and keep crucial hearing functions in place.

Knowing what I know now, I would have taken every drug that kills or inhibits the enzymes crucial for new neural connections, thereby hopefully blocking these changes that underscore the chronic variant of this affliction.

So if you're new I'd advise against increasing auditory pathway circulation, interfere and block the brain's ability to adapt itself through neuroplasticity, and avoid antidepressants that act on serotonin as rat studies have shown it may worsen the hyperactivity of the DCN
 
When I first acquired the bewitched ear (which is what this will be known as since ancient treatments as effective as modern ones) I searched the Internet for what to do about the ringing.

This one site I came across had two very bad pieces of advice on how to cope with and minimize tinnitus that should be noted:

1. Exercise/Increase Blood Circulation.
Obviously exercise has other health benefits, but solely in the case of tinnitus is poor advice. Imaging studies show numerous sites of neural hyperactivity in patients, which is associated with increased blood flow. To keep it flowing even more will only spur that hyperactivity. If anything, we want less fluid, more coagulated and less oxygen rich blood going to these areas. By starving them of the oxygen those neurons desperetly need, it should in theory hinder this activity. This way we can effectively block the brains attempts to compensate lost functions so they stay lost forever.

2. Avoid drugs that hurt neuroplasticity. This one is the most ridiculous. Neuroplasticity is what causes all the brain changes in the first place as the brain tries to "regain" its lost frequency and keep crucial hearing functions in place.

Knowing what I know now, I would have taken every drug that kills or inhibits the enzymes crucial for new neural connections, thereby hopefully blocking these changes that underscore the chronic variant of this affliction.

So if you're new I'd advise against increasing auditory pathway circulation, interfere and block the brain's ability to adapt itself through neuroplasticity, and avoid antidepressants that act on serotonin as rat studies have shown it may worsen the hyperactivity of the DCN

Bewitched? Hmm... seems a troll theme there...anyway I digress...

The alternative is that you could carry on doing what you enjoy doing (i.e sport), therefore taking your mind off the T (so allowing the brain to adapt).

There are two parts to our brains. The logical and the emotional. The logical part can help 'educate' the emotional part that T is not a threat.

When I tried this, it worked. Wasn't my idea!
 
Bewitched? Hmm... seems a troll theme there...anyway I digress...

The alternative is that you could carry on doing what you enjoy doing (i.e sport), therefore taking your mind off the T (so allowing the brain to adapt).

There are two parts to our brains. The logical and the emotional. The logical part can help 'educate' the emotional part that T is not a threat.

When I tried this, it worked. Wasn't my idea!
There are not "two parts" of our brain. We have two hemispheres but logical and emotional things occur in BOTH hemispheres. You have hippocampuses involved in learning and emotion in both the left and right side of your brain. I seriously wish people would move on from pop psychology.

How is "bewitched" a troll term? I picked up the term from another user who said that what the ancient Egyptians called tinnitus, the "bewitched ear".
 
There are not "two parts" of our brain. We have two hemispheres but logical and emotional things occur in BOTH hemispheres. You have hippocampuses involved in learning and emotion in both the left and right side of your brain. I seriously wish people would move on from pop psychology.

How is "bewitched" a troll term? I picked up the term from another user who said that what the ancient Egyptians called tinnitus, the "bewitched ear".

I wasn't taking about two 'physical parts' of the brain but thanks for confirming that logic and emotion are in both hemispheres.

As for the Egyptian thing. No idea realky but I do think T is a gift. Well I now see it tells me when there is a threat.
 
I wasn't taking about two 'physical parts' of the brain but thanks for confirming that logic and emotion are in both hemispheres.

As for the Egyptian thing. No idea realky but I do think T is a gift. Well I now see it tells me when there is a threat.
A "gift"? That sounds like more of a troll answer than anything I have said. My life sucks because of this condition.
 
A "gift"? That sounds like more of a troll answer than anything I have said. My life sucks because of this condition.

Well T taught me to make a choice. Either let our physical disfunction fuck up our life and those around us...or....

I've been there. Once we start to put our effort into helping others, magically we start to help ourselves.
 
I believe excerise is a good way of reducing stress. Stress contributes towards tinnitus. You reduce the stress, you (hopefully) reduce the tinnitus or your reaction to it. It's not simply a theory, it's a fact in my case. Mind you, following my workouts my tinnitus is amped up for hours or the day (possibly proving your hypotheses), but the overall affect is positive.
 
I believe excerise is a good way of reducing stress. Stress contributes towards tinnitus. You reduce the stress, you (hopefully) reduce the tinnitus or your reaction to it. It's not simply a theory, it's a fact in my case. Mind you, following my workouts my tinnitus is amped up for hours or the day (possibly proving your hypotheses), but the overall affect is positive.

Yep I think so too.
I think I've started noticing the major decreases of my T after starting every day exercise.

It spikes for about 2-3 hours after exercise because of increased heart rate but eventually settles back to baseline(or below).
 
Exercise can also be a source of stress. Pushing oneself too hard while hiking, running or lifting heavy weights, for instance. My tinnitus is often worsened by these activities, particularly when I'm in a negative state of mind.
Agreed! Pushing oneself too hard can be a source of stress. It's best done in moderation.
 
I believe excerise is a good way of reducing stress. Stress contributes towards tinnitus. You reduce the stress, you (hopefully) reduce the tinnitus or your reaction to it. It's not simply a theory, it's a fact in my case. Mind you, following my workouts my tinnitus is amped up for hours or the day (possibly proving your hypotheses), but the overall affect is positive.
Mine is almost always louder following exercise, thus I feel even more desire to avoid it,
 
How is "bewitched" a troll term? I picked up the term from another user who said that what the ancient Egyptians called tinnitus, the "bewitched ear".
Bewitched? Hmm... seems a troll theme there...anyway I digress...

Nice to see you using the the term "Bewitched ear" @Gl0w0ut. It's not a troll name @Bassplayer . Contrary to what some may think, tinnitus has been around for many thousands of years and I believe there has been significant advancement in the treatment of it and to enable people have a better quality of life. There are many medical conditions that at the moment can't be cured but a lot can be helped with treatment. Please read my post below.

Tinnitus.

Tinnitus is condition that comes in many different forms and intensities. Most people habituate and are able to carry on with their life doing everything that they want to without too much difficulty. It usually becomes a problem when it is loud and intrusive and begins to interfere with a person's quality of life and their mental well-being.

Since exposure to loud noise is the most common cause of tinnitus, it has been suggested to me on more than one occasion, it is a modern day condition that has come about by the increasingly noisy world in which we live, or to be more precise, the high sound levels that some people expose themselves to while blissfully unaware of the potential risks that are involved. There maybe some truth in this, when one considers the amount of people that go about wearing ear buds, that are attached to their mobile phone or an mp3 player and listen to music that is often at high volume levels and do this for long durations.

I feel these devices have contributed to it becoming more prevalent in today's society especially amongst the young. In addition to this, those that regularly attend nightclubs, concerts and multiplex cinemas could also be at risk. There are those that believe the louder the sound at these venues the better the audio experience and will scoff at the mere mention of using noise-reducing earplugs. One should be able to go out and have a good time if they want to, but also be aware of high sound levels their auditory system might be subjected to at these places of entertainment. Therefore, it would be prudent to carry adequate hearing protection should the need arise to use them.

Someone once told me when their ears are ringing after leaving a club it's a sign that they've had a good night. That's fine I said until the day the ringing doesn't stop. This can happen when the ears are repeatedly exposed to high sound levels. What might start out as a pleasant experience can quickly change into something quite distressing if tinnitus becomes loud and permanent. Many other things including an underlying medical condition, not necessarily associated with the ear, can be responsible for it too.

In fact tinnitus isn't a modern day condition at all and has been around for many centuries and goes way back to the Egyptians, when the first written account and medical treatment for it was recorded. There weren't any treatments like the ones in use today. How did people cope and what form of treatment was available then, and right up until now? The Egyptians used a concoction of remedies to treat the "bewitched ear or "the humming ear" as it was called. Infused oil, frankincense, tree sap, herbs and even soil would be administered into the external part of the affected ear using a reed stalk. By today's standards such treatments might seem bizarre. Nevertheless, it's what the doctors at that time believed in and therefore, who are we to say such methods didn't bring some relief to the affected person?

The Mesopotamians, a collection of cultures and considered to be the cradle of civilization, used to chant to get rid of the whispering or singing in their ears. "Whoever thou may be, may Enki restrain me." This was just one in a list of mantras used, to perhaps condition the mind and probably helped to push the noise further into the background making it less noticeable. An early form of sound enrichment?

I believe a real breakthrough in coping with tinnitus came with the use of sound as a form of masking. Two famous Greeks first introduced it: Aristotle and Hippocrates. One a philosopher and scientist the other a distinguished physician, who is often referred to as the "Father of modern medicine. Perhaps this is the reason all newly qualified physicians take the Hippocratic Oath. Both were fond of saying: "Why is that buzzing in the ear ceases if one makes a sound. Is it because a greater sound drives out the less?"

A very helpful device that has brought relief to many people with tinnitus is the wearable white noise generator, formally known as a masker. I like to think fate had a part to play in the inception of this little miracle and it didn't happen just by chance. Although at first glance this does seem to be the case.

In 1973, Jack Vernon PhD led a research group in the studying of tinnitus. He was traveling with a friend Dr. Charles Unice who had severe tinnitus. As they were walking passed an outdoor fountain, Dr Unice stopped abruptly and was reluctant to continue. Listening to the soothing sounds of the fountain, he told Dr. Vernon. "Standing right here I cannot hear my tinnitus. It's the first time I've been unable to hear that unconscionably wretched sound since it began over two years ago. This is wonderful!" This intrigued Dr. Vernon and led him to research the matter further, until coming up with the idea of a wearable masking device, as a way of providing relief for tinnitus.

The word masking is not commonly used today in books when describing sound therapy although it is still used a lot in tinnitus forums. I think its use is outdated and for some time has been replaced with the term "sound enrichment" by health professionals. Hearing Therapists and Audiologists now advise patients, the preferred method is to set the volume level of the sound of choice, slightly below the tinnitus. By doing this, the brain is able to hear it and thus making the habituation process easier. Unless the brain can hear the tinnitus slightly above the sound enrichment the habituation process is usually more difficult. If one completely masks, as soon as the sound is stopped or temporarily removed, the brain will immediately focus back on the tinnitus and often, it will appear to be louder and more intrusive.

The wearable white noise generator has advanced considerably and is now available in various forms. The digital types require setting up on computer by an Audiologist and can be tailored to a patient's specific needs. For example the user can select different sounds when required. Some are blue toothed enabling the streaming of audio. Hearing loss often accompanies tinnitus and therefore, dual-purpose devices are available that come fitted with a hearing aid.

Sound therapy using white noise generators, tabletop sound machine etc. Counseling and prescription drugs are available today and are able to play a significant role in helping to relieve not only the sound of the tinnitus but the stress and anxiety that often accompanies it. This has to be a good thing, despite some of the concerns some medications attract because they might exacerbate the condition or cause dependency. Not everyone is the same. What might affect one person might not in another. I believe, once a person is properly managed by their doctor, any problems that might arise due to medication, can quickly be resolved and a change of prescription is likely bring the desired affect.

Although there is no cure for tinnitus at present. With the help of modern medicine, treatment therapies and having a positive attitude, people are often able to have a good quality of life. Depending on how intrusive the condition is, this might take a little longer for some but don't let that stop you believing.

Michael
 
Mine is almost always louder following exercise
Busted!
That means you excercise, which means you don't follow the advice you've just given.:cool:

Now could you please tell me which drugs block neuroplasticity and how to selectively deprive bood to my overactive neurons?
I'm seriously interested.
 
On the exercise front, I used to get worse after mild exercise, which I attributed to physical stress. But I have for a while started to do HIIT, High Intensity Interval Training, a form of intensive exercise. It has given me great benefits. I believe it is due to the emotional discharge I get from committing as much as i possibly can to the intensity of the workout. I used to get a similar effect in the early days when I had some emotional release after talking candidly to someone else about my problem for example.
 
Mine is almost always louder following exercise, thus I feel even more desire to avoid it,


In my opinion you should not disregard the many benefits of sport because of these spikes. Yes it makes T spike, but it's just temporary and it's normal, it's not like it's damaging your ears in any way.

Sport has many proven benefits for the mind and the body, including long term benefits. Doing exercise regularly increases your lifespan, reduces your risk of heart disease and diabetes, among other things. And in the short term it heightens your morale and your levels of energy.
 
My tinnitus is variable from: complete silence, mild, moderate, severe and can reach extreme severe levels. Although everyone will respond differently to exercise, there is no doubt that is can make tinnitus worse for some people. Usually, it is high impact exercise such as running on a treadmill or on hard ground. Many people have contacted me saying their tinnitus has been made progressively worse due to running. I believe this is due to impact underfoot that travels up through the legs into the upper body, head and auditory system and can irritate the inner ear. I have also been told running doesn't affect some people with tinnitus.

For this reason I use an elliptical/crosstrainer machine and have been doing so for a number of years and notice no increase in tinnitus. This could be due to my feet not making contact with the floor so there is no impact underfoot.
Please click on the link below to website where tests were carried out, and mention certain exercises can make tinnitus worse, and can cause the condition in people not previously affected by tinnitus.

Michael

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/04/06/us/inner-ear-may-take-beating-from-high-impact-aerobics.html
 
Busted!
That means you excercise, which means you don't follow the advice you've just given.:cool:

Now could you please tell me which drugs block neuroplasticity and how to selectively deprive bood to my overactive neurons?
I'm seriously interested.
Supposedly there are certain proteins or enzymes that are needed for neuroplasticity. Drugs that inhibit these, in theory, block the plastics response. If I'd know this at my tinnitus onset maybe I could have prevented the changes associated with chronic tinnitus.
 
In my opinion you should not disregard the many benefits of sport because of these spikes. Yes it makes T spike, but it's just temporary and it's normal, it's not like it's damaging your ears in any way.

Sport has many proven benefits for the mind and the body, including long term benefits. Doing exercise regularly increases your lifespan, reduces your risk of heart disease and diabetes, among other things. And in the short term it heightens your morale and your levels of energy.
I have enough risk factors to set the stage for the heart attack that's going to kill me at age 45, so why bother? Gets me out of this hell sooner. And I don't have to live to the age when my tinnitus worsens or it aches me to get out of bed in the morning.
 
You don't like this advice because you don't want to increase your lifespan, that's one thing. But please don't claim it is a "very bad piece of advice".
The benefits is has, especially on the mood, can only have a positive impact when it comes to tinnitus.
 
You don't like this advice because you don't want to increase your lifespan, that's one thing. But please don't claim it is a "very bad piece of advice".
The benefits is has, especially on the mood, can only have a positive impact when it comes to tinnitus.
You said it yourself. It spiked tinnitus, thus in regards to tinnitus exercise is bad advice. However, as I noted, there are numerous other non-tinnitus reasons to exercise.

Also thank you, it's about time someone recognized my "optimism"
 
It spiked tinnitus, thus in regards to tinnitus exercise is bad advice.

A spike is just a spike, maybe it is not pleasant when that happens, but is not "bad" for your condition. What I was trying to say is that exercise has no negative impact on your T in the long run, only a positive one. And it is what matters, no?
 
On the exercise front, I used to get worse after mild exercise, which I attributed to physical stress. But I have for a while started to do HIIT, High Intensity Interval Training, a form of intensive exercise. It has given me great benefits. I believe it is due to the emotional discharge I get from committing as much as i possibly can to the intensity of the workout. I used to get a similar effect in the early days when I had some emotional release after talking candidly to someone else about my problem for example.
Good to know!
 
You said it yourself. It spiked tinnitus, thus in regards to tinnitus exercise is bad advice. However, as I noted, there are numerous other non-tinnitus reasons to exercise.

Also thank you, it's about time someone recognized my "optimism"
I enjoy reading your posts. They're thought provoking and you obviously put time & care into them.
Thank you.
 
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The worst tinnitus tip I was ever given was "go see a doctor", because I learned one thing and 1 thing only, doctors are incredibly callous, evil, and useless when it comes to an affliction such as this, and on top of that it cost more money than I could afford, but since this was the most common tip given to me, I was figured I should do it. If only I knew the soul shattering disappointment and uncaring insensitivity that was to follow.

But hey its all good. Mr. Doctor told me my ears are healthy and perfect.

Gah.
 
The worst tinnitus tip I was ever given was "go see a doctor", because I learned one thing and 1 thing only, doctors are incredibly callous, evil, and useless when it comes to an affliction such as this, and on top of that it cost more money than I could afford, but since this was the most common tip given to me, I was figured I should do it. If only I knew the soul shattering disappointment and uncaring insensitivity that was to follow.

But hey its all good. Mr. Doctor told me my ears are healthy and perfect.

Gah.

I cannot blame you for being cynical about doctors and your last comment did make me smile. All doctors are not the same for some care a lot about their patient's well-being when it comes to tinnitus. It is true though that some need to improve their bedside manner but don't give up on them.

Michael
 
The worst tinnitus tip I was ever given was "go see a doctor", because I learned one thing and 1 thing only, doctors are incredibly callous, evil, and useless when it comes to an affliction such as this, and on top of that it cost more money than I could afford, but since this was the most common tip given to me, I was figured I should do it. If only I knew the soul shattering disappointment and uncaring insensitivity that was to follow.

But hey its all good. Mr. Doctor told me my ears are healthy and perfect.

Gah.
It's important to rule out more serious medical concerns such as an acoustic neuroma so for that I'm grateful.
 
The worst tinnitus tip I was ever given was "go see a doctor", because I learned one thing and 1 thing only, doctors are incredibly callous, evil, and useless when it comes to an affliction such as this, and on top of that it cost more money than I could afford, but since this was the most common tip given to me, I was figured I should do it. If only I knew the soul shattering disappointment and uncaring insensitivity that was to follow.

But hey its all good. Mr. Doctor told me my ears are healthy and perfect.

Gah.
While not misguided, I would say going to see a GP/PCP or ENT to see if its reversible (such as earwax or SSHL) is worth it at least. Most of the time they will be useless but one visit it at least worth it just to see.
 
I enjoy reading your posts. They're thought provoking and you obviously put time & care into them.
Thank you.
Well I do have an penchant for being provocative and controversial. I find it stimulates conversation and progresses thought. I for example think most modern ethic guidelines only inhibit science. No one can give me a good reason why the Milgram Authority Experiment is unethical by today's standards. Meanwhile, you have studies for behavioral therapies where one group of troubled kids gets into the experimental group where they receive treatment for their behavioral problems while the control group gets no help.

By the end, those in the experiment group improved dramatically while very few (if any) in the control group improved. That messes with people's lives at the most individual level, by dooming those in the control group to continue to have problems in their adult life. Yet that is considered ethical. It is important to have a control group so you know your therapy was effective, and this way everyone in the future could be helped. So I believe it is worth it, I just think its a bit hypocritical to consider studies like Milgram's, which has a debriefing and no actual harm in it unethical, and the study I mentioned above which dooms the control group to continue suffering ethical.

Science is funny that way. We want to have our cake (have the most groundbreaking new findings) yet we want to eat it to (do so in a completely ethical and controlled manor). Usually we can achieve groundbreaking findings, but they are less effective because of the ethics in place.
 
I have enough risk factors to set the stage for the heart attack that's going to kill me at age 45, so why bother? Gets me out of this hell sooner. And I don't have to live to the age when my tinnitus worsens or it aches me to get out of bed in the morning.
bewitched ear (which is what this will be known as since ancient treatments as effective as modern ones)
I'm convinced you are a troll. Otherwise why would you come here?. If your claims of an impossibility to habituate, a willingness to die and an inability to receive help are true, then why come here? There wouldn't be a reason.
It's to troll, and to attempt to make everybody here, give up hope and be as miserable as you claim to be!
Your armchair science is mostly false, and your facts are skewed. And before you say it is to enlighten people to the facts, and to strive for the medical world to change its view and procedures, as you've made some discoveries on the internet, then don't. You aren't a doctor nor a scientist so don't bother trying to sound like one. Perhaps just troll somewhere else where your shitty advise is appreciated!
 
I'm convinced you are a troll. Otherwise why would you come here?. If your claims of an impossibility to habituate, a willingness to die and an inability to receive help are true, then why come here? There wouldn't be a reason.
It's to troll, and to attempt to make everybody here, give up hope and be as miserable as you claim to be!
Your armchair science is mostly false, and your facts are skewed. And before you say it is to enlighten people to the facts, and to strive for the medical world to change its view and procedures, as you've made some discoveries on the internet, then don't. You aren't a doctor nor a scientist so don't bother trying to sound like one. Perhaps just troll somewhere else where your shitty advise is appreciated!
My "armchair" science is based on articles I read, articles summarizing various studies on different tinnitus phenomenon. If that's "armchair" and "false" then I guess you also think the Earth is flat and evolution is incorrect too.

I'm no troll. My mood changes throughout the day in response to my tinnitus, so sometimes I have variations in my affect and response.

Think I'm a troll all you like, but know you're wrong. I am miserable prick, but not a troll. I spread the information about because these notions of "habituating" and "coping" piss me off. All they do is hold us back from getting better treatment or even some version of a cure. Until I can get people to stop acting like habituation is the end goal then perhaps I will change my tune.

Most people on here need to be informed of what research is out there anyways. They don't know what brain regions change and what it all means. They don't understand that the brain doesn't filter the sound out over time. They don't understand that habituation isn't as efficient or easy as many here purport it to be. Until the underlying neurological mechanisms are understood, we cannot have an actual discussion about the problem.

One who knows nothing can understand nothing. Until everyone is informed we cannot have an honest, intellectual discussion. The fact that most tinnitus research is depressing is an unfortunate reality, but also not my problem.
 
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