Can I Use Lawn Mower (by Hand)?

[Rajin]

No, that would definitely mess up my ears. The low frequency sound goes right through

What noise will mess up you hearing, low , mid or high frequency. Can low frequency sound damage mid and high frequency. Can high frequent damages low?

 

[TuneOut]

What noise will mess up you hearing, low , mid or high frequency. Can low frequency sound damage mid and high frequency. Can frequent damages low?

Those are good questions. I don't have the answers to them. Any sounds will jack up my tinnitus if loud or for long enough.

 

[Bill Bauer]

Just because there is a spike does not mean the hair cells are recovering or some broke.

I agree. But tinnitus might be the result of something like nerve damage/deterioration. Something is causing a spike, and Eventually the spike might become permanent.

I agree being exposed over and over of intermittent loud sounds can eventually cause a permanent increase in tinnitus.

Temporary spikes are evidence that the moderate noise is having an impact on something in the body. I think they are similar to pain - they are a signal that an activity is to be avoided, or else.

If it was that dangerous to people with tinnitus this message board would be swamped with people saying they got permanent damage.

If the damage is gradual, people's T would worsen over time (and according to those studies in the
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/spontaneous-recovery-stats-over-70-recover-3-studies.21441/
thread, it does for something like 20% of the sufferers. Those people might not realize what has actually been causing that permanent damage (due to how long it takes to "get to the other side of the wall"). After they have been doing something for X years, they might want to eliminate it as the cause for the troubles they begin having all of a sudden X years after onset.

What is the next thing saying wearing foam plugs while using a kitchen blender is dangerous?

WTF? OF COURSE it is dangerous! (Honestly, I couldn't believe my eyes there, for a second. I wasn't expecting to see the word "blender" in that sentence.) I guess some people lack that self-preservation instinct. I am very sorry for you.

In addition we know high frequencies are more damaging

We don't need to look at the theory of what is damaging or not, when we have that empirical evidence of you getting spikes following those exposures.

 

[Bill Bauer]

But maybe I'm a special case.

You are not. You just have that self-preservation instinct, that some others seem to lack.

 

[Rajin]

What noise will mess up you hearing, low , mid or high frequency. Can low frequency sound damage mid and high frequency. Can high frequent damages low ?Do anyone know the answer to what his.

 

[Jason37]

Reading the negative messages on the support forum has spiked my tinnitus louder than mowing my lawn or working with power tools combined this year....like anxiety spikes 106 to lawn mower spike 0.

 

[Autumnly]

Reading the negative messages on the support forum has spiked my tinnitus louder than mowing my lawn or working with power tools combined this year....like anxiety spikes 106 to lawn mower spike 0.

I honestly don't see how it's negative to say to someone "Hey, I'd recommend you to wear hearing protection and if your body gives you some signals listen to those." If you can use power tools and your tinnitus doesn't spike, good for you, but other people might not be as lucky. I share my experiences only to warn other people to be cautious, not to stay at home all day. I wished someone would have warned me.

 

[robHing]

Here is my update: After discussion with forum friends, I have purchased the reel lawn mower. It is very quiet and I can exercise too !

 

[Bill Bauer]

It is very quiet and I can exercise too !

I hope you will let us know how that works out for you. If it doesn't work out very well, I hope you won't be too embarrassed to share your story, so that others won't be tempted to repeat your mistake.

 

[robHing]

I hope you will let us know how that works out for you. If it doesn't work out very well, I hope you won't be too embarrassed to share your story, so that others won't be tempted to repeat your mistake.

I mowed my yard yesterday with the reel lawn mower (Fiskars). It worked out well.

 

[Jason37]

@Bill Bauer a reel lawn mower has no engine. The only sound is the blade cutting grass...no ear protection necessary.

 

[Jason37]

Reel Mower

 

[robHing]

This is a good solution for T & H people. It is quiet and environment friendly.
But, it's better for small size yard.

 

[Greg Sacramento]

Hearing loss is not dependence on age if there's trauma or disease, nor to many other diseases. Disease can be present before birth and can happen at any point in life.

The effects of vibration on older unhealthy people is just one of many thing that happens more than with healthy and often younger people.

Medical books are about our being and they can line side by side from San Francisco to Paris or maybe to the moon and back again and then there still not complete. Age counts or records accumulate stress to our bodies. Audiologists don't have the many medical degrees needed to fully explain this.

I was able to get away with headphones while cutting the grass just five years ago. Now I can't because of spinal arthritis and other issues. I think that the World Health Organization has responsible guidelines on hearing level exposure. They talk about age, other conditions and disease including heart, chemical exposure, vibrations and frequency components. They state that some can do with 85 decibels, while others may have a 75 decibel limit or below. Tinnitus or conditions that can go along with T, wasn't mentioned in detail. I provided a link in another recent posting.

 

[glynis]

Gardening can be therapeutic and if you have been cutting lawns for a long time before you had tinnitus then I don't see a problem carrying on with hearing protection and this has to be a personal thing as we are all different.
Getting out doors and gardening is good for mind and body.
You could get a cold or ear infection causing tinnitus problems so a quietest model mower could help but also it could be grass pollen so antihistamines could help.
Love glynis
roll on summer

 

[Sam Bridge]

If you begin hitting a wall with a hammer, it takes some time before you get to see the things on the other side of the wall.

Does this mean everyone in the world will get tinnitus eventually?

 

[Sam Bridge]

Not having T is a necessary, but not a sufficient condition for "actually living."

Depends on where you go. It is not loud at all in the middle of nowhere in places like Canada and Iceland.

You have not experienced the waterfalls of Iceland , they are loud and someone with your mindset would be quaking in your boots lol.

 

[Greg Sacramento]

@glynis Your post above as always is very thinkable when it comes to "mind and body". Many here can find ways to endure that. With my first severe onset on T, I was eventually able to do just about anything as I later was able not to make my T a conscious state of mind.

I'm not able to do much now with newer whiplash T because of many age disease related factors. This has placed me into a very bad physical state and does have direct influences to many aspects of my severe T. I can't turn or bend my neck more than an inch and doctors say that I never will even with surgery. I still have some hope to being able to lower my tinnitus.

I also agree with @Ed209 where he talks about how cancer isn't an easy road. If you don't have a condition that someone has like cancer then you aren't walking in their shoes.

I also agree with @Bill Bauer in reference that loud noise as (general) should receive consideration. 1.3 billion younger people are at risk due to higher levels of noise exposure according to the World Health Organization.

I had great parents, but I have a sister that I have talked to @Jazzer about that has effected my emotional well being where I stated to clench my teeth and needed a front lower implant causing a rare case of dental whiplash. We can't choose our family that may bring us emotional harm, but we can choose our friends who have love without conditions.

 

[glynis]

I think everyones views on this thread are important and tinnitus what it means to us and other conditions and our emotions and what all our futures will encounter in our lifetime.
I have a few problems like a lot of us and one that now needs a CT scan to check out bowels for conditions including cancer as It runs in the family.
My nan and two aunt's and all my nans sisters had it..so it is a worry but staying positive and will trust in the hospital to check it out....
Love glynis

 

[Bill Bauer]

I mowed my yard yesterday with the reel lawn mower (Fiskars). It worked out well.

This is what you need to learn about T: Things take time. It can take weeks, months, or years.

 

[Bill Bauer]

Does this mean everyone in the world will get tinnitus eventually?

Our ears have been compromised and the noises that people who don't suffer from T won't even notice, have the potential to permanently change our lives.

 

[Bill Bauer]

You have not experienced the waterfalls of Iceland ,

I've been to Iceland around five times. It is my favorite place in the world. I need to go back at least one more time, as there are still two highways there that I haven't experienced yet. Normally, I don't enjoy waterfalls. However, Dettifoss is not a regular waterfall. On my last trip, I spent over an hour taking it in.

It is heartbreaking that, by the looks of it, I won't be able to visit it again...

 

[Bill Bauer]

@Bill Bauer a reel lawn mower has no engine.

Thank you for pointing this out.

I wish I could delete the post I made back when I thought that it was an actual lawn mower.

 

[Bill Bauer]

Reading the negative messages on the support forum has spiked my tinnitus louder than mowing my lawn or working with power tools combined this year....like anxiety spikes 106 to lawn mower spike 0.

Are you sure this spike was caused by anxiety? It could have been delayed reaction to mowing your lawn and working with power tools in the past year... You will never know.

 

[Sam Bridge]

Our ears have been compromised and the noises that people who don't suffer from T won't even notice, have the potential to permanently change our lives.

I have t in one ear, should i start protecting my good ear?

 

[DT_N_DA_CLUB]

What is the next thing saying wearing foam plugs while using a kitchen blender is dangerous?
WTF? OF COURSE it is dangerous! (Honestly, I couldn't believe my eyes there, for a second. I wasn't expecting to see the word "blender" in that sentence.) I guess some people lack that self-preservation instinct. I am very sorry for you.

Again let's use logic, let's say the kitchen blender is 88 DB. Your not running that thing that long maybe a couple of minutes. You are wearing foam ear plugs, it's equivalent that you are in the next room over. Bill Bauer check out all the frequencies foam plugs eliminate. A food blender isn't even vibrating your body. Your reaction is like I'm suggesting someone to use a jack hammer.

Thanks for the link to that lawn mower alternative btw.

 

[Ed209]

A blender with earplugs is fine. In fact, a blender without earplugs is likely fine as well, because the duration is short for the SPL you're exposed to. Saying that I'd err on the side of caution and just protect your ears for a brief moment. To say it's still a risk with protection is taking it too far.

You'd never get anything done with a fear like that hanging around your neck. I say be sensible, but don't be obessesive. As soon as you start to fear stuff like that it's a slippery slope into making yourself a nervous wreck. You won't stop at blenders; you'll start to fear/avoid all sorts of non-threatening sounds and you'll have a reaction (spikes, panic attacks etc) whenever you do hear something you deem dangerous.

If you read it enough times on here it will start to play on your mind. It will creep into your subconsciousness and change your behaviour. And when you feel depressed, because you're having a hard time navigating yourself through life, you will probably need CBT, or some other therapy, to help you overcome your phonophobia.

In short, if it's really loud, it's worth popping some earplugs in or using muffs to mitigate the risk. Just be careful that you don't take this behaviour too far. This forum is full of people - on the extreme end of the spectrum - influencing the minds of newcomers in a fairly toxic way with some of their advice (not all), in my opinion. You can't habituate if you're an anxious mess.

 

[Jason37]

@DT_N_DA_CLUB They take some effort to use but it is great exercise and the have a superior cut if you sharpen the blades once a year. It makes your lawn look like a fairway. I had one before I got T and everyone thought I was nuts mowing 2.5 acres with it. But their yards look like crap compared.

 

[Bill Bauer]

I have t in one ear, should i start protecting my good ear?

I used to have it only in one ear. I haven't been protecting my good ear (I know for a fact that it hasn't been harmed by what caused T in my bad ear). About nine months after onset, T spread to my good ear, and stayed there. My guess is that this has nothing to do with me not protecting my good ear. Of course I will never know. I hope that I am right, as I am still often protecting only my formerly the only bad ear.

 

[kelpiemsp]

You can do anything you want! You can be president of the United States, you can go to the moon, you can lead the most popular band in history, or be one of the greatest classical music composers to grace this Earth (People with documented T have done all these things). Or you can sit inside with your ear muffs on all day and let something else control your life. I will gladly take my T with me and all of the spikes for the reward of well lived life.

But that is just my opinion, as is everything else you have read on this thread.

P.S. I do have loud intrusive T.