@Vaba I'm as negative as the next guy on APAP, but, if you look at alicia's post, you'll see she's getting oxycontin and 30mg roxicodones, so, no tylenol involved there at all. Beyond that, a cold water extraction using home equipment is probably a bad idea because it doesn't actually work that well; if you don't have very precise equipment, you're probably not going to extract most of the APAP, and there's no good way to determine how effective your extraction is (again, unless you have very precise equipment). This is a common tek suggested by recreational opioid users online, but it's never been assessed clinically as far as I know.
Acetaminophen is not actually that toxic to the ears; all studies showing toxicity and ototoxicity are based on regular consumption (often daily) over a period of years. It's definitely on the list of things I don't take unless I have a really good reason to, but the 3-4x a year that I'm really sick and feverish I use it without much hesitation. (And, of course, high fevers themselves can be ototoxic....)
I wouldn't call it a "useless medication"; it's hard on several body systems, but it has a lot of utility and in fact is on every comprehensive "essential medications" list globally. I do believe that if it had just been discovered, the toxicity would keep it from being as widely available OTC as it is now, but among other things it's one of the only painkillers that can be used by pregnant women with reasonable safety, so it would exist in some form.
Sorry to be so long winded :-/ Pharmacology is interesting!
That's cool man, I feel the same way about pharmacology. My maxillofacial was flabberghasted when I knew what chemicals he was going to "put me under" with. I was like, "Ooh, Ketamine, nice, nice, that'll keep me pretty deep under. What's this? Versed? An amnestic? I really hope you're not planning on keeping me in twilight anesthesia, instead of general anesthesia. I want to be TOTALLY unconscious, not just hypnotized with benzos, screaming in pain but not remembering it." He was floored by my knowledge.
They're not entirely useless. What I mean when I say they're useless in that there are FAR BETTER, LESS HEALTH-RISKY meds out there with far better effects that are controlled because they have the potential for abuse and very few downsides. They're impossible to get because the government thinks everybody is irresponsible.
1. Ibuprofen for inflammation reduction? = Potential horrible side effects. Can't take in large doses. It might reduce mild inflammation a little bit. Inadequate for severe inflammation. Causes liver damage and hearing damage over time.
Ibuprofen VS. Prednisone, another anti-inflammatory (Non-NSAID). Taking it means NOTHING IS INFLAMED. ANYWHERE. Slaughters mild-severe inflammation all throughout the body. Side effects? You feel AMAZING! You get excited, restless, and happy. You become manic! You feel ON TOP OF THE WORLD! Severe side effects are rare. Does not cause liver or hearing damage, because it is an organic molecule.
2. Acetaminophen is a relatively new, synthetic medicine good only for treating slight nerve pain or heart disease. You run the risks of suffering nausea, gaining more hearing loss depending on dosage, and easily gaining liver damage. Acetaminophen is completely inadequate for severe pain.
Acetaminophen VS. Codeine - Codiene's effects - You feel sleepy, happy, drunk, and your broken leg stops screaming out in pain completely. You could sit there and watch Game of Thrones while your 3rd degree burn would is healing and not even notice it. You can sleep through terrible agony with ease. Side effects of opiates? Addiction. They've been used WORLDWIDE, safely, for thousands of years.
The bottom line is that the US's drug policies are TOO STRICT.
And yes, through Cold Water Extraction, you DO lose some of the good medication, but, if done right, you filter out over 99% of the ototoxic garbage. You'll keep something like 60-90% of the opiate if done well and double-filtered. But if you're not a drug addict, you shouldn't care about this. If you're a tinnitus sufferer who is in severe pain but doesn't want to pummel his ears with useless ototoxic medications, this method could help you, I think.
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