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Can We Stop Treating Hyperacusis as a Single Disease with Universal Advice?

And you are a fool
It is you that's a fool.

You act so two-faced to people. You are nice to people who have had success with TRT but when they don't you end up victim bashing them and saying the reason why the treatment didn't work was because they were too negative.

You can't even back up your argument about why you believe TRT to be a valid treatment. No, you just use your own judgement as valid research and you choose to ignore those people's questions who don't believe in your statement and have backed up their argument with countless research articles.

Don't you think before you say something to someone. Your words might hurt someone and make them kill themselves.

Why can't you even show empathy to someone who didn't have success with TRT.

Why do you even laugh at someone's post of suffering when they are struggling.

This is so two-faced behaviour.

This is the reason why I don't want you in these forums because you could potentially hurt someone with your words and make them go over the edge.

I think you have had enough chances already and still haven't learned your lesson yet.

@Markku and @Hazel I think it's time to ban him before he could hurt someone else through his words or laugh at someone suffering.
 
@Michael Leigh

"A fool is a man who doesn't change his mind in the face of new facts." (FHC)

I shouldn't have compared you to a door.

Doors do not think people suffering are funny.

You have had tinnitus for 5 mins and have no long term experience of it. As a result spend your time reading the rubbish that medical professionals write about this condition and believe it to be factual. Many of them are like you, have no long term experience of tinnitus and how it affects a person's mental and emotional wellbeing. This is the reason so many people in this forum and others that I visit, are so dissatisfied after having a consultation with their ENT doctor and say: he/she has no understanding of what I'm going through.

What you and they fail to understand, these doctors are physicians not tinnitus specialists. They know all about the anatomy of the ear and auditory system. They treat underlying medical conditions that cause tinnitus. If any is found they will try to treat it medically or surgically and this I believe they will to do to the best of their ability. However, most know very little about tinnitus because they have never experienced it. If they have it's likely to be mild and therefore, will never understand what a person with loud intrusive tinnitus is experiencing. Yet you and others waste your time reading reams of data that these medics write because they are medically qualified and have PhDs. Giving them a sentimental reverence that they do not deserve. The only way you can know about tinnitus and how it affects a person mentally and emotionally is to live with it. It is for this reason most (not all) Hearing Therapists/Audiologist that counsel tinnitus patients have tinnitus.

You have been disrespectful to me once and I have replied in kind. It is not my style so therefore, if you continue I will not reply.

Michael
 
Chat-Hyperacusis is pro sound therapy and "most of us can get better" (at least this is how I remember it) and this thread on here shows that hyperacusis patients, who fall outside the norm, didn't feel represented on here either. Usually, discussions about hyperacusis are one-sided in the sense that they focus on the majority that gets better and ignore more severe cases. Most audiology sites say hyperacusis can be treated, there are many hyperacusis success stories, the threads I read on chat hyperacusis were also always very supportive and encouraging and so on.

But you're not saying "or because for some, it just doesn't get better" or "for some, sound therapy doesn't work" or "some need to be more careful of setbacks". You're also talking about over-protection and ignoring patients who genuinely need to over-protect (for some time at least).

Bryan Pollard said on a recent Tinnitus Talk Podcast episode:
  • There was a study earlier this year by Martin Pienkowski that was entitled 'Rationale and Efficacy of Sound Therapies for Tinnitus and Hyperacusis'. In this paper he concluded that there are too few placebo-controlled trials that help to demonstrate the effectiveness of any sound therapy treatment and he highlighted that, especially for hyperacusis, only a handful of studies, mostly case reports, showed true benefit for hyperacusis, broadly speaking.
  • In more specific discussions with clinicians, as well as our own survey data, I have found that for those who have hyperacusis with pain, there is some evidence to indicate that they get much less benefit from either Sound Therapy, broadly, or TRT overall, than those who have loudness hyperacusis.
Also, I bet many severe hyperacusis patients have tried sound therapy. So it's not just about whether it works in general or not but it's important to remember that it doesn't work for everyone - which is what this thread is about, general advice not working for everyone.

Clinical advice rarely comprehends setbacks or the risk of making the condition worse. Advice such as "everyday noise can't harm you" can have dire consequences for some and lead to significant worsenings.

For severe sufferers, this is sometimes the only thing they can do to prevent further setbacks. Also, saying "nothing can be done" is the reality for some sufferers, unfortunately.

Do you have a source for that?

This thread was meant for hyperacusis patients where the general advice doesn't fit and didn't help. I'm not sure how that's doom and gloom. People were just discussing that there is an obvious minority (?) where the advice you shared doesn't apply. Where else should hyperacusis patients, that don't fall into the "norm", talk about their experiences?
Don't bother. It is probably one of Leigh's alts.
 

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