Clonazepam (Klonopin, Rivotril)

[ChrisJ]

Well daily dose for clomazepam can be up 4-8 mg. There is also written that biggest dose can not be more than 20mg per day. So 0.5mg daily is (depends from person to person of course) is not so much.

It's about treating these drugs with respect, whether it's benzos, paracetamol or even caffeine. They all have the potential to be abused by someone who cannot exercise good judgement and moderate their use. Restraint is key.

I plan to use Clonazepam sparingly but in conjunction with some of my other DIY techniques like my homemade VNS Sound Therapy treatment. It's low cost and it's hacky as hell but I got nothing to lose.

 

[nills]

It's about treating these drugs with respect, whether it's benzos, paracetamol or even caffeine. They all have the potential to be abused by someone who cannot exercise good judgement and moderate their use. Restraint is key.

I plan to use Clonazepam sparingly but in conjunction with some of my other DIY techniques like my homemade VNS Sound Therapy treatment. It's low cost and it's hacky as hell but I got nothing to lose.

Everything is bad when taken too much ... some things are even bad when taken a little. Anyway, goodluck and hope you can control your usage and get benefit.

 

[svg1204]

my pcp prescribed me clonazepam 0.5mg one every night for 30 days, should i be careful? will it spike my tinnitus?

Thank you.

 

[Steve721]

my pcp prescribed me clonazepam 0.5mg one every night for 30 days, should i be careful? will it spike my tinnitus?

Thank you.

When my Tinnitus became intrusive, my psychiatrist prescribed clonazepam .5 twice daily. After about a month my anxiety was greatly reduced, so I talked to my doctor and stopped taking it during the day and had no problem dropping the dosage. It's now almost four months later, and I still take clonazepam at night when I need it, either half a pill (.25mg) or a quarter of a pill. In my experience, no, clonazepam does not spike my tinnitus; it reduces it.

As to taking Benzos, have you had prior problems with drug or alcohol addiction? If so, this is probably not a good drug for you to take. Stevie Nicks is often used as an example of going through hell with Benzo withdrawal, but she was evidently taking a very large dose. Also, when clonazepam was first prescribed for her, she was recovering from a serious ten-year cocaine addiction. Why a doctor would prescribe a drug like clonazepam to a recovering drug addict is beyond me.

Assuming you're going to a reputable doctor and you take the drug as prescribed without having to continually up the dosage, my personal opinion is that you'll be OK. However, if you are concerned about addiction issues, you might want to discuss that with your doctor.

 

[svg1204]

no, i dont drink or have done any drugs, im not worried about adiction im worried about spiking my T lol, ill take my first one tonight.

 

[svg1204]

ok so i started taking clonazepam two days ago, only one pill at night was having amazing sleep, one clona 0.5mg, then yesteday a friend told me they gave her clona but one 0.5mg pill at night before bedtime and haf a pil in the morning and half a pil in the afternoon every 8 hours, i tried that today and my T has been the lowest since the beggining in it was GONE, for about two hours, right know is so low i can bearly hear it if i pay attention to it, hope this helps anyone

 

[Steve721]

ok so i started taking clonazepam two days ago, only one pill at night was having amazing sleep, one clona 0.5mg, then yesteday a friend told me they gave her clona but one 0.5mg pill at night before bedtime and haf a pil in the morning and half a pil in the afternoon every 8 hours, i tried that today and my T has been the lowest since the beggining in it was GONE, for about two hours, right know is so low i can bearly hear it if i pay attention to it, hope this helps anyone

If I take 0.5 mg of Clonazepam when I go to bed and get up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom, my T is virtually gone. There's also a study showing that the drug can reduce T:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22626945

However I don't like taking that much Clonazepam at night (or taking it during the day) because it makes me feel so sedated--I need to be alert for work. Now, I only take 0.25 mg when I need it to sleep.

 

[svg1204]

mmmmmm i dont know, i just did the experiment the same ammount prescribed to my friend in Argentina, 0.5 to sleep, 0.25 in the morning, 0.25 in the afternoon , first pill at 8am, second at 4pm and third at 12, all i know is that it worked beautiful today, lowest T since onset, and for almost two hours no T at all, and i know after two weeks my friends T when away completely, so i dont know, im just reporting what has happen to me in case it helps someone else.

honestly i will take this crap forever if it allows me to function at the level it did today, i got my life back for a day, work wise and everything, i know ill die at some point, im ok with dieing, im not afraid of it, what matters to me is what i do in life, and if this helps me live it until a cure is found im all for it, ill talk to my pcp tomorrow about this.

 

[nills]

mmmmmm i dont know, i just did the experiment the same amount prescribed to my friend in Argentina, 0.5 to sleep, 0.25 in the morning, 0.25 in the afternoon , first pill at 8am, second at 4pm and third at 12, all i know is that it worked beautiful today, lowest T since onset, and for almost two hours no T at all, and i know after two weeks my friends T when away completely, so i dont know, im just reporting what has happen to me in case it helps someone else.

honestly i will take this crap forever if it allows me to function at the level it did today, i got my life back for a day, work wise and everything, i know ill die at some point, im ok with dieing, im not afraid of it, what matters to me is what i do in life, and if this helps me live it until a cure is found im all for it, ill talk to my pcp tomorrow about this.

thinking this drug will save your life and let you function `beautifully` is just dreaming man ... of course you are in favor of taking it - it is a drug that makes you high! of course you want to use it ... heroin addicts also want to use heroin ... but if you ask them about the drug they say it is the worst thing ever happend to them ... you know what the biggest problem is? that people don`t inform themselves ... anyone with a bit of sense will not take this shit after investigating users experiences. anyway ... I`m talking to deaf mans ears most of the time ... people don`t understand it is a drug and it`s addiction will make you take it ... even if it will kill you ... it is just dumb... it doesn`t work beautifully ... go and read the experience sof people even after a few months of use ... and see if that is what you want to experience ... watch youtube.

it`s natural for people to want to get high and forget their problems ... but you don`t realise what sacrifice you have to give ... your life, your character, your intelligence ... your sex life (yes it reduces sex drive and also can cause impotence) ...

If I would offer you heroin you would not take it ... but klonopin is more addictive, the withdrawls are worse and take longer ... no man with a clear mind will do it after knowing this... and still people just take it .... and none of them want to investigate why they do it ... noone understand the mechenics of their brain ... they dont realise that it is already addiction that is making you take it ...

it will not help you live!! ... it will suck the life out of you ... READ! INFORM! ...

http://www.cchrint.org/2011/06/02/americas-most-dangerous-pill-klonopin/

``I was a heroin addict for 12 years and I can tell you that I had a hundred times worse withdrawal from Klonopin than heroin. Klonopin withdrawals can last weeks and give you awful seizures. And Klonopin is also as much of a PHYSICAL addiction as heroin or any other opiate. If you're concerned about your Klonopin addiction, just try stopping for a good 2 weeks just to make sure you don't have a physical withdrawal. If you don't, you're probably not taking enough to be dangerous. It's when folks take it every day, that the physical dependency (that is really painful) comes in to play.``

 

[RaZaH]

I agree 100% , this stuff is made in hell, do not touch this shit.

 

[markoana]

Clomazepam is made to be taken for years, it is ephilepsy drug. Dose can be 6-8 mg per day. And maximum dosage per day is 20 mg. (read the study and paper inside a box)
So taking 0.5 per day iz 20 x less than it is average recomendation for ephilepsy.

I do not advise anyone to take any drug, but facts are facts. And to compare Clomazepan and Heroin is without logic.

At the end, every person is different. Something is gonna work for someone for a years, and same thing is gomna be horrible for other person.
For example Trobalt, is 5x more dangerous than Clomazepam, with far away worse side effects, no one knows how it is gonna act after 2,3 years of usage since drug is new. And so many ppl here are taking it, someone with great effect (even a cure), others with horrible side effect immediately.
So again conclusion, it is all relative and individually based.

 

[Steve721]

it will not help you live!! ... it will suck the life out of you ... READ! INFORM! ...

http://www.cchrint.org/2011/06/02/americas-most-dangerous-pill-klonopin/

I don't know if your aware of this, but the organization that runs this website (the Citizens Commission on Human Rights) was established by and is still run by the Church of Scientology:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_Commission_on_Human_Rights

For various reasons, L. Ron Hubbard (who founded the Church) hated psychiatrists. So IMHO, that website is not a place to go for accurate information about any drug.

 

[Carlos1]

@nills Hey Nills again man I understand your concern but comparing klonopin to heroin is a little too much bro. I take .25mg at nite and have off and on for about a year now and I never have craved for K like addicts craved for heroin. If K helps people get back some sense of life and they don't abuse it what is the problem? I know all the concerns that goes with K but even with new meds that potential can cure or help us cope with T how do you know these drugs won't be addicting and yet we all sit here and wait for them.
Please inform people of the dangers but don't use scare tactics it might be the only thing that people have for now to keep going forward till cure is found
Just my opinion

Carlos

 

[svg1204]

i dont feel high from taking the thing, it does keeps my T to a low level, im able to function and work and do things and concentrate on tasks, im not frustrated anymore, i can function man, yes its a drug and all drugs are bad, but i have to work and make money and pay bills and if this allows me to do so then im gonna take it, i do appreciate you warning me and caring for me, but i have to work and do life and i couldn't with the noise on my head at the full extent.

 

[svg1204]

ok so if i want to stop, just reduce the dosis little by little, i've been on it for two days only

 

[undecided]

The more you use clonazepam, the faster you're going to start building tolerance to the drug.
In some days time, you're going to need a bigger dose to get the same effect.
Use it as your doctor prescribed. If you use it 3 times a day, you're heading towards trouble my friend.
This drug has a long half-life, having it constantly in your system will mess up your GABA receptors and production in no time.

Use only when absolutely necessary.
There is no need to taper-down slowly if you've only been using it for a couple of days.

I know that it helps you cope and makes your life seem better. That's how most addictions start.

 

[Golly]

I having been reviewing this thread for some time and feel that I need to chime in now.

It is true that Klonopin can lead to dependence; and it is true that there are people who have had a very hard time reducing their dose and/or quitting Klonopin. That said, it should be noted that there are also many people that can use benzodiazepines, such as Klonopin, without any problems whatsoever. I used Klonopin regularly for a few years and had no issues with dependence or eventually quitting. In fact, I still have a jar in the medicine chest, and should I feel the need, I would not hesitate to take one. My reasons for stopping regular use of Klonopin had nothing to do with the nightmarish descriptions put forward by various members here.

My advice is to make an educated decision that properly considers the risks and the rewards. I believe Klonopin can be very helpful to some, and I believe that there are those whose life it can ruin. Talk to your doctor, read peer-reviewed papers, and know that anything you read on TT may suffer from so-called adverse selection. That is, because people are more inclined to give feedback if their experience has been remarkable in some way (extremely negative, for example), the apparent consensus may not be representative of the population as a whole.

-Golly

 

[nills]

I don't know if your aware of this, but the organization that runs this website (the Citizens Commission on Human Rights) was established by and is still run by the Church of Scientology:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_Commission_on_Human_Rights

For various reasons, L. Ron Hubbard (who founded the Church) hated psychiatrists. So IMHO, that website is not a place to go for accurate information about any drug.

ok so what man ... there are tons of other places to get info ... and you are mocking the fact that I quoted something from a cult like scientology ... but you are unaware you are defending a cult like pharma industry that only care about money ...

whatever people ... do as you like ... I won`t bother you with information that can save your health and brain.

and the fact that you think heroin is a lot more dangeorus than klonopin is because you follow the cult that is called pharma and american FDA bastards and DEA .... who ever said they are right and caring about you???

the info I get about heroin is from users ...

so really ... do as you like ... follow the masses ... and please ... don`t research anything ... just take what they push down your throat and swallow it ...

 

[svg1204]

Hey nills dont get mad, believe im taking your advise in consideration i just made an appointment with my pcp for monday and see how i can get off the medicine slowly what would be the best plan, so Thank you for that.

i went to an audiologist this morning and she did a more in depth hearing test and confirm that i have no damage in my ear so my T has to be from something else, the other thing that i was able to find out with my t being low and in that box is that my T goes on similar rythim with my heart.

 

[Carlos1]

@nills Dude you are ready to gobble down what ever meds big Pharma comes out with to help T aren't you?
People on this forum have tried Trobalt knowing the health risks that come with it but God forbid you take a benzo to help you cope with T ....
Thank You for your concern I really appreciate you opening my eyes to the Benzo situation and I'll go forward with extreme caution.

 

[nills]

Hey nills dont get mad, believe im taking your advise in consideration i just made an appointment with my pcp for monday and see how i can get off the medicine slowly what would be the best plan, so Thank you for that.

i`m having a reall shitty day that`s all ... if you use it for a couple of days you can just quit ...

I just get so frustrated to see people follow the advice of industry with bad intentions and no intelligence ... bloody psychiatrists prescribing this drug to people while they don`t understand anything about the mind themselves... how can you trust an unhappy person to make you happy? it is rediculous ... how can you trust a doctor being payed by pharma to sell drugs to give you the right drugs? ... to see psychedelic drugs with amazing potential and power to heal people being schedule 1 drugs ... while this crap benzo shit is sold by the millions and is killing people, making them depended, making people crazy and ruining lives ...

and everywhere they say - we don`t know how these drugs work but they seem to do something ... they don`t even know how much damage these drugs cause to the brain ... the imbalances it creates ....

it is known that the anxiety you get after quitting this stuff is far worse than before ... so why not toughen up a bit ... and yes, this will hurt peoples ego to say it like this ... but wait until you get the flip side ... than you will need to be a lot stronger to make it ... and YOU WILL MAKE IT! ... you are so much stronger ... but you believe a bloody doctor saying you are crippled and you need their pill-walking stick ... and you believe your mind and the ghosts in your head you are scared while all the time if you could just let things pass they pass by themselves ...

anyway ... finished talking here ... good luck.

 

[nills]

@nills Dude you are ready to gobble down what ever meds big Pharma comes out with to help T aren't you?
People on this forum have tried Trobalt knowing the health risks that come with it but God forbid you take a benzo to help you cope with T ....
Thank You for your concern I really appreciate you opening my eyes to the Benzo situation and I'll go forward with extreme caution.

why would I be ready to gobble anything up - that is your assumption and you can gobble that one if you like! ... Trobalt at highest dose did not give me dependency - did not give me withdrawl symptoms and I still have my health AND I checked every two weeks with doctor how I was going ... you assume trobalt is worse than benzo because they tell you ... well, Trobalt isn`t the money maker they need to keep in the running... Benzos are ...

and let`s not start talking about alcohol!! man it must be healthy if they sell it everywhere ... (i don`t drink btw)

So i`m taking my responsibility I inform myself... I wonder if 10 percent of the people taking klonopin knows on what neurotransmitters it works and has ever heard of the word withdrawl ...

so just for your arrogant assumption about me gobbling anything while i`m just informing people I will ignore you ... I know you don`t care so that makes 2 of us.

 

[Nick the Swede]

@nills, i honestly don´t know what the Scientologists told you but everything isn´t black or white when it comes to the use of benzos. Calling people that using benzos unintelligent is to go a bit far, taking benzos isn´t necessary the same as abusing them.

 

[nills]

@nills, i honestly don´t know what the Scientologists told you but everything isn´t black or white when it comes to the use of benzos. Calling people that using benzos unintelligent is to go a bit far, taking benzos isn´t necessary the same as abusing them.

i`m calling the psychiatrist unintelligent not the users ... they just follow doctros advice ... and scientology hasn`t told me anything.

of course I realise there is a difference between using and abusing - but it doesn`t change the fact this stuff is a brainkiller ... but most people follow docotrs advice and that is enough to get into trouble ... anway i`m done here ...

if you want to know more watch youtube videos about klonopin ... user experience ... and withdrawal videos ...

 

[Carlos1]

@nills I know I'm on ignore but just to give you a little something of what I've seen. My step son is a HEROIN addict for the last 8 years and I've been to hell and back with him. While my mother has been on Benzo's for the last 25 years and she's 80 now and is still doing fine. One can abuse anything but these eyes has seen the worst heroin can offer.

Nills I don't mean to be offensive just been a rough road for me too.
Peace

Carlos

 

[randomuser]

my pcp prescribed me clonazepam 0.5mg one every night for 30 days, should i be careful? will it spike my tinnitus?

Thank you.

I'm not a doctor, and I'm not trying to give medical advice, only talking from my own experience. My t was unaffected by small doses of clonazepam at the beginning, although this is a truly powerful anxiolytic drug and at the end you don't give a f* about the noise. 30 days is a reasonable time frame, and the dose is low, but make sure for your own sanity that after that, you taper off properly. I mean, ask your doctor, mention him the Ashton protocol, and if he/she know nothing about, look for it in internet and follow it. Because a cold turkey of clonazepam can give you bad news, that is, increased t. Clonazepam is pretty badass when calming your CNS but rebound effects might be pretty nasty. Mine are moderate (some insomnia and mild tinnitus spikes) and it's not pleasant at all.

Take care!

 

[nills]

I'm not a doctor, and I'm not trying to give medical advice, only talking from my own experience. My t was unaffected by small doses of clonazepam at the beginning, although this is a truly powerful anxiolytic drug and at the end you don't give a f* about the noise. 30 days is a reasonable time frame, and the dose is low, but make sure for your own sanity that after that, you taper off properly. I mean, ask your doctor, mention him the Ashton protocol, and if he/she know nothing about, look for it in internet and follow it. Because a cold turkey of clonazepam can give you bad news, that is, increased t. Clonazepam is pretty badass when calming your CNS but rebound effects might be pretty nasty. Mine are moderate (some insomnia and mild tinnitus spikes) and it's not pleasant at all.

Take care!

thank you for sharing ... and this after only 1 month of use?? ... people stay away from this stuff! ... it`s obvious it terrible drugs.. and I will continue to make the comparison ... it`s not because it makes you feel good it is good for you ... a lot of drugs make you feel good ... and they ruin your health. choose wisely and inform yourself!

 

[randomuser]

The way clonazepam (benzos) works is enhancing greatly the inhibitory response of the neurons, so for the body, who likes to keep homeostasis, everything in its place, it's easy to downregulate or "produce" less and less GABA receptors. The final effect is that there is an artificial imbalance between the glutamatergic system and the gabaerbic system, it's not in equilibrium and when you remove the benzos, there are not enough gaba receptors to equilibrate the excitatory waves of the glutamatergic system. Then, you start feeling nasty side effects and your CNS gets hyperexcited. This can happen in as less as a month of use, depending on your genetics of course, that's why it's imperative to let the body "regrow" and repair the inhibitory system on its own without risking anything else, the famous slow taper. Some sources talk about an equal taper time as consumption time, but I find this a bit exagerated.

The Ashton website and its explanation of how the GABA system works is excellent, I'm still amazed on how most GPs prescribe this drug so easily. But I'm a bit paranoid too about health.

 

[svg1204]

well clonazepam has an effect on the nerves right? because i have recently come up with a theory as to my T, on July 27 i had a root canal done, forward to sep 4 thats when i got my T, i have gone to two ents and on audiologist and all have said my hearing is superb, now i went to a dentist which told me i have problems with that root canal meaning there is a leaf thick opening and the crown is not properly seated, also went to a tmj specialist which confirm i have multiple problems with my mouth, but here is the kick.

When i press down on the crow of the root canal molar and or side i got the root canal done which is the left side which at the same time is the side of my T, my high pitch sound goes up for the moment i press down also if i touch on my check on that same area of the lower jaw.

since clonazepam has an effect on the nerves and it lowers my T couldnt be that something is wrong with my nerve and clona helps calm it down? im gonna go again to the tmj specialist and ask him to remove the entire molar, im done with root canals i rather have the tooth pulled from now on.

 

[Inge]

ok so what man ... there are tons of other places to get info ... and you are mocking the fact that I quoted something from a cult like scientology ... but you are unaware you are defending a cult like pharma industry that only care about money ...

whatever people ... do as you like ... I won`t bother you with information that can save your health and brain.

and the fact that you think heroin is a lot more dangeorus than klonopin is because you follow the cult that is called pharma and american FDA bastards and DEA .... who ever said they are right and caring about you???

the info I get about heroin is from users ...

so really ... do as you like ... follow the masses ... and please ... don`t research anything ... just take what they push down your throat and swallow it ...

I went to a rehab to detox from klonopin. Withdrawal was hell and after almost a year I still have protracted withdrawal symptoms, the most nasty one being T. They say heroin is out of your system in a week and you are done. Just because benzos are legal and heroin isnt doesnt mean anything. Big pharma pushes drugs just as dangerous as street drugs.