Dentist Claims Dental Work Cannot Make Tinnitus Worse

[Lynny]

I have to get 5 fillings and 5 teeth pulled (4 of them wisdom teeth). They don't know why my teeth are that bad. I planned them some time apart so I can assess the effects on my tinnitus. I'm so so devastated as my tinnitus is already becoming worse without any exposure to loud sounds, let alone dentist equipment!

Expressed my concerns to my dentist and he said in all his years he'd never come across anything about it in any of the literature he's read. I am terrified for all the procedures but they are necessary (according to him).

Does anyone have any reliable sources / links that I can send to him with information about hearing loss / tinnitus (increases) due to loud drills or dental work in general?

Thanks so much in advance.

 

[Matas]

Hey,

I had 5 cavities recently filled as well. I separated them into 3 different appointments and my dentist was using air abrasion instead of the drill for cavities and it was not too loud. Air abrasion works only for small cavities tough, ask your dentist if you can do it. I had no issues with my tinnitus or hyperacusis.

 

[boliston]

As your tinnitus is still quite new (less than a year) I would probably delay the dental treatment for now unless it is causing you pain. It's similar to avoiding other loud noise (concerts, clubs etc) for 'new' tinnitus.

 

[Lynny]

As your tinnitus is still quite new (less than a year) I would probably delay the dental treatment for now unless it is causing you pain. It's similar to avoiding other loud noise (concerts, clubs etc) for 'new' tinnitus.

Problem is the cavities will get bigger and they'll have to spend even more time doing the fillings

 

[Lynny]

Hey,

I had 5 cavities recently filled as well. I separated them into 3 different appointments and my dentist was using air abrasion instead of the drill for cavities and it was not too loud. Air abrasion works only for small cavities tough, ask your dentist if you can do it. I had no issues with my tinnitus or hyperacusis.

I haven't heard of air abrasion, how does that work? Glad to hear it didn't make it worse. I just got over my fear of dentists but now with t I'm very scared

 

[JohnAdams]

Yes, dental work can definitely spike your tinnitus if the procedure is loud. Find a new dentist.

 

[Notch]

I got my tinnitus from a new dentist cleaning my wisdom teeth. It wasn't the noise, but the high frequency vibration which only those specific teeth seemed to bone-conduct straight to my cochlear. Unfortunately, I was tinnitus-naive and didn't stop him.

Before this incident, I'd been to other dentists twice a year for almost thirty years, and never had an issue. So your odds are good - just make sure you stop them if you think it's too much, like I should have.

--just reread that you're getting your wisdom teeth pulled - that's probably safer than getting them worked on!

 

[Steve G]

I got my tinnitus from a new dentist cleaning my wisdom teeth. It wasn't the noise, but the high frequency vibration which only those specific teeth seemed to bone-conduct straight to my cochlear. Unfortunately, I was tinnitus-naive and didn't stop him.

Before this incident, I'd been to other dentists twice a year for almost thirty years, and never had an issue. So your odds are good - just make sure you stop them if you think it's too much, like I should have.

--just reread that you're getting your wisdom teeth pulled - that's probably safer than getting them worked on!

Ultrasonic Dental cleaning has destroyed me.

 

[Notch]

Ultrasonic Dental cleaning has destroyed me.

Yeah I will never let them use an ultrasonic scaler on me again.

Your profile says you got tinnitus from a slap - did you then go to a dentist and have it worsen?

 

[Contrast]

I have to get 5 fillings and 5 teeth pulled (4 of them wisdom teeth). They don't know why my teeth are that bad. I planned them some time apart so I can assess the effects on my tinnitus. I'm so so devastated as my tinnitus is already becoming worse without any exposure to loud sounds, let alone dentist equipment!

Expressed my concerns to my dentist and he said in all his years he'd never come across anything about it in any of the literature he's read. I am terrified for all the procedures but they are necessary (according to him).

Does anyone have any reliable sources / links that I can send to him with information about hearing loss / tinnitus (increases) due to loud drills or dental work in general?

Thanks so much in advance.

No one understands noise can cause injury. Loud drills will make you worse. It's no different then avoiding a concert or a chainsaw.

 

[Steve G]

Yeah I will never let them use an ultrasonic scaler on me again.

Your profile says you got tinnitus from a slap - did you then go to a dentist and have it worsen?

Hi, I went to the dentist on the 25 June 2019, had a check up and a clean, unfortunately I had never heard of a ultrasonic cleaner before. The hygienist asked if I had any medical conditions and I told them I suffer from tinnitus, however she still went ahead with the clean which took about 30-40 minutes, she kept hitting my rear molars which I kept having to stop her as the noise was terrible.

I have just returned to work after 4 weeks off, that machine destroyed everything for me. I was doing so well before this procedure. The tones in my head are all so different now and I also have ringing in my right ear as well. I cannot put into words how much damage that clean has done me emotionally. I am just so sad.

 

[Bill Bauer]

If I were you, I would find a dentist who would take my concerns more seriously. And he is wrong - just search this forum using the keywords "dentist" and "spike"...

Check out
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/going-to-the-dentist-how-should-i-prepare.30362/#post-353717

 

[Luman]

Don't delay, have the work done with the wisdom teeth and fillings, and get a manual, rather than ultrasonic, cleaning - which they all know how to do because patients with pacemakers are not supposed to be exposed to ultrasonic teeth cleaning equipment.

 

[Matas]

I haven't heard of air abrasion, how does that work? Glad to hear it didn't make it worse. I just got over my fear of dentists but now with t I'm very scared

Its like a sandblaster that washes out the cavity instead of drilling. Its still can be loud for some people, but better than the drill. You should be alright, try not to delay it for too long.

 

[Michael Leigh]

I have to get 5 fillings and 5 teeth pulled (4 of them wisdom teeth). They don't know why my teeth are that bad. I planned them some time apart so I can assess the effects on my tinnitus. I'm so so devastated as my tinnitus is already becoming worse without any exposure to loud sounds, let alone dentist equipment!

Expressed my concerns to my dentist and he said in all his years he'd never come across anything about it in any of the literature he's read. I am terrified for all the procedures but they are necessary (according to him).

Does anyone have any reliable sources / links that I can send to him with information about hearing loss / tinnitus (increases) due to loud drills or dental work in general?

Thanks so much in advance.

@Lynny

It is unfortunate that you are in this situation. Teeth need to be checked regularly and if any problems are found they should be dealt with. Failure to do this could result in multiple tooth extractions and lead to gum disease. I have variable tinnitus which can reach very severe levels requiring me to take clonazepam to calm it down. Fortunately, I don't always have to rely on it, as the tinnitus can reduce by itself but it's nice to know I have this medication to hand.

I regularly have dental check-ups and have had root-canal work, fillings and a couple extractions. Fortunately, I haven't noticed any increase in the tinnitus. Over the years I have mentioned the tinnitus to more than one dentist and they casually brush it aside as unimportant. This cavalier approach towards tinnitus is not right but I'm afraid this is often the case. Many of us know the attitude of some ENT doctors: learn to live with it nothing can be done.

Try to calm yourself down and relax. You need to have this dental treatment and I agree that you should have it in stages. Saying that I think if you are not careful, discussing it in this forum and researching dental procedures and tinnitus via Google etc, you are setting yourself up for a whole lot stress and anxiety. Remember, tinnitus is intrinsically linked to our mental and emotional wellbeing. By worrying over it as you've mentioned in your post: Terrified, you're likely to make your tinnitus ramp up purely by the power of thought processing.

Please try and help yourself by not talking about what you inevitably have to have done in order to keep stress to a minimum.

Take care and I wish you well.
Michael

 

[Bill Bauer]

I haven't heard of air abrasion, how does that work? Glad to hear it didn't make it worse. I just got over my fear of dentists but now with t I'm very scared

Before you go for a traditional drill, make sure your cavities can't be dealt with while using a laser drill.

 

[Julien87]

Ultrasonic Dental cleaning has destroyed me.

Sorry to read this :/
It troubled my tinnitus for about one week (this is the only dental work that affected my T).
@Lynny Make sure the dentist avoids the ultrasonic tool if they suggest you a plaque removal/cleaning.

 

[Notch]

Hi, I went to the dentist on the 25 June 2019, had a check up and a clean, unfortunately I had never heard of a ultrasonic cleaner before. The hygienist asked if I had any medical conditions and I told them I suffer from tinnitus, however she still went ahead with the clean which took about 30-40 minutes, she kept hitting my rear molars which I kept having to stop her as the noise was terrible.

I have just returned to work after 4 weeks off, that machine destroyed everything for me. I was doing so well before this procedure. The tones in my head are all so different now and I also have ringing in my right ear as well. I cannot put into words how much damage that clean has done me emotionally. I am just so sad.

I'm so sorry to hear that mate, I know how you feel. It sucks when you are trying to do something right, like getting a check-up, and it turns into a nightmare like this.

Here's hoping it gets better for you, and if not, hopefully a cure comes soon.

 

[Steve G]

I'm so sorry to hear that mate, I know how you feel. It sucks when you are trying to do something right, like getting a check-up, and it turns into a nightmare like this.

Here's hoping it gets better for you, and if not, hopefully a cure comes soon.

Thanks. Normal dental drilling has never bothered me, however that ultrasonic machine not only made my tinnitus bad, it also had a massive effect on my whole body almost like every nerve ending had been over stimulated. This went on for a couple of weeks and is now starting to subside. It is so hard to explain, it was like I went rigid and was literally shaking inside from the vibration, not really sure what happened or how to exactly explain it but it had such a bad effect on me.

 

[Lynny]

I'm so scared now. I don't know what to do. I don't have the money or resources to go to another dentist that might use different equipment. Train's passing by make mine worse, let alone a dentist drill for longer 10 min.

(Off topic)

My life right now is being confined to my home to avoid loud sounds and complete silence. I lost 90% of my social circle and I'm a burden to my family. I literally have no life anymore.

I've been thinking a lot about going to the same place that Gaby did to apply for euthanasia, since that can be a long process (think, more than 8 years in cases like this) The truth is I want nothing more than to live. Just not like this. I'm already scared to live day to day, I don't know how I'm going to get through these appointments

 

[Cojackb]

@Lynny

I had a wisdom tooth pulled after my T got worse. They had to do A LOT of drilling as my wisdom teeth are generally quite planted in place.

My T was a bit aggravated for a few days but went back to baseline afterwards. I've got to get another wisdom tooth pulled soon which I'm putting off, not because of the T but I'm just in no hurry to let those mouth butchers back in there yet .

The drills are tricky because even wearing ear plugs doesn't really defend your ears due to the bone conduction from vibrations etc.

Ideally you'd want a dentist who understands your condition better, but I did read somewhere that if they can do any drilling at intervals e.g. drill for 30 seconds / 1 minute and take a minute or two break it can help.

I think you'll be ok, either way I'm "rooting" for you....get it...I'll see myself out.

 

[Ricardo AM]

My life right now is being confined to my home to avoid loud sounds and complete silence. I lost 90% of my social circle and I'm a burden to my family. I literally have no life anymore.

@Lynny,

Avoid lound sounds is a smart thing to do!......about the rest you should see the positive sides like as find your "real and true friends" when you feel down.....and im very sure your family loves you and support you!

What about read this thread:
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/frequency-therapeutics-—-hearing-loss-regeneration.18889/page-148#post-461848

I guess we all have some hopes, dont you?!

 

[Lynny]

Update: I may have found a reasonably priced dentist that uses laser techniques for drilling. It might fix my worries about the fillings but I have no idea what getting my wisdom teeth removed will do to my tinnitus.

 

[Mal58]

Here's an article in the top science journal Nature indicating that dentists may be putting themselves at risk.

https://www.nature.com/articles/4814024

 

[Lynny]

Here's an article in the top science journal Nature indicating that dentists may be putting themselves at risk.

https://www.nature.com/articles/4814024

Thanks!! That's exactly the type of information I'm looking for! If you come across anything similar feel free to share Very helpful, thanks again

 

[GoatSheep]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sc...hows-fillings-aren-t-needed-in-many-cases/amp

Many dentists are eager to drill. One in Columbus, Ohio where I live told my soon to be ex-wife she needed 5 fillings and me I needed 3. I brush my teeth twice a day and use mouthwash.

I went to another dentists for a second opinion and ended up he said I needed no fillings and my wife only need 1-2 I can't remember.

Dentists are like any other industry these days in many cases. All about the income.

 

[Lane]

Dentists are like any other industry these days in many cases. All about the income.

Totally agree; consumer beware! I've heard stories of people being told they need a root canal (and other expensive treatments), only to get a second opinion and find it that it's totally unnecessary. Hmmm, root canal, there's a $1,000+ pop right there. Sure helps pay the bills..........

 

[Notch]

Totally agree; consumer beware! I've heard stories of people being told they need a root canal (and other expensive treatments), only to get a second opinion and find it that it's totally unnecessary. Hmmm, root canal, there's a $1,000+ pop right there. Sure helps pay the bills..........

Great article on The Atlantic about it:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/05/the-trouble-with-dentistry/586039/

 

[Kelvin]

@Lynny
Not sure I can help, or fully put your mind at rest...as my T started after a dental filling.
However, for what its worth...I do think (in my case) it had more to do with trauma to my jaw.
This was probably made worse by me being nervous and tense during the procedure.
I honestly don't think the noise of the drill was to blame, although it is a horrible noise.
In essence I was tense (as I always am at the dentist ) and something happened that day hasn't corrected since.
I should say I can lower and change my T noise for a few seconds by tensing my jaw.
So my advice would be...to make sure you head is properly supported during your procedure, and you are as calm as is possible.
I have been back to the dentist since that fateful day and have had a further filling. I tried desperately to be more relaxed and the good news is that I did not experience any worsening of my T.
I tried wearing foam earplugs but actually took them out as oddly they seemed to make the noise worse...no idea why but it was not pleasant.
If I was you I would try some music you find calming ( played quietly ) through some over-ear NC headphones ( Bose or similar) as this might take the edge off the drill noise and more importantly make your relax and concentrate on the music and not the procedure.
I wish you all the best, but try your best to relax and explain to the dentist that you have T.
If your dentist offer free Vodka shots, and you have a ride home, then maybe consider it...
Hoping your having relatively T free day today x

 

[Mal58]

Many dentists are eager to drill. One in Columbus, Ohio where I live told my soon to be ex-wife she needed 5 fillings and me I needed 3. I brush my teeth twice a day and use mouthwash.

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Dentists are like any other industry these days in many cases. All about the income.

These days? I'm old enough to remember there was never a golden age.

In the 1970s/80s the NHS dentists in the UK were well paid to drill and fill. As a result I have a mouth full of fillings! More recently, the incentives to drill & fill were taken away, and I've had far fewer fillings since then.