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Frequency Therapeutics — Hearing Loss Regeneration

I agree. Be optimistic, but also skeptical. It is big business, and they are in it to make money. They want to cure hearing loss, because they will make more money. But don't be surprised if in a few years they announce it is not working they way it needs to to be approved and put on the market. Happens all the time. But let's hope it does work and we can all get the little hairs to regrow and hear like a 20-year-old again.

Cheers to that!
 
I am not convinced that they have the magical miracle cure they are saying they have.

They never once stated that they have a "magical miracle cure" or anything like that. They have only stated that they saw an improvement in hearing in subjects in their last trial and this is in line with years of animal tests with this exact same type of drug. Why would you even say that?
 
I agree. Be optimistic, but also skeptical. It is big business, and they are in it to make money. They want to cure hearing loss, because they will make more money. But don't be surprised if in a few years they announce it is not working they way it needs to to be approved and put on the market. Happens all the time. But let's hope it does work and we can all get the little hairs to regrow and hear like a 10-year-old again.

Cheers to that!
Fixed it for you, some of us are in our 20's ;)
 
They never once stated that they have a "magical miracle cure" or anything like that. They have only stated that they saw an improvement in hearing in subjects in their last trial and this is in line with years of animal tests with this exact same type of drug. Why would you even say that?
I am skeptical, and I had not discovered and read your 50 page thread about your treatment.
 
My thread about my treatment has nothing to do with FX-322. Can I help you sir?
No I never knew that these types of treatments had come as far along as they have. To see your progress is a potential sign the FX-322 trials may be successful.

I am new to all this tinnitus stuff. I have had some experience watching clinical trials.
 
Why isn't there anything going on to promote awareness of this in the tinnitus world?
I guess because it's still in an early trial phase. Perhaps it's because we don't know what effects it's had on the few dozen people who have received it. It could be due to the fact that they don't have any conclusions yet on dosages required. Or it could be that it's a drug being designed to restore hearing and could potentially carry an off label use for tinnitus. It's not being promoted because there are too many unknowns and it's years away if it is ever marketed at all.
 
I guess because it's still in an early trial phase. Perhaps it's because we don't know what effects it's had on the few dozen people who have received it. It could be due to the fact that they don't have any conclusions yet on dosages required. Or it could be that it's a drug being designed to restore hearing and could potentially carry an off label use for tinnitus. It's not being promoted because there are too many unknowns and it's years away if it is ever marketed at all.
Exactly, the answers to these questions could come much faster with the right kind of promotion and attention.

You're basically saying that the reason that we shouldn't try to get more attention focused on this stuff to speed up the answering of these questions is because we don't know the answers to these questions.
 
Exactly, the answers to these questions could come much faster with the right kind of promotion and attention.

You're basically saying that the reason that we shouldn't try to get more attention focused on this stuff to speed up the answering of these questions is because we don't know the answers to these questions.
You can focus all the attention you want on it. We all can. It won't cause Frequency Therapeutics to rush the process just because they get more attention. If it proves to be effective they will know what they have and get it out there. They will get lots of attention then. Hopefully the competition they have gets them to speed up the process.

What I'm saying is that right now they are just another drug research company working on a drug that may someday be helpful. They are no different than any other group out there developing drugs. There is nothing to promote or draw attention to.

Drawing attention to them will not get them to divulge their information any faster.
 
Exactly, the answers to these questions could come much faster with the right kind of promotion and attention.

You're basically saying that the reason that we shouldn't try to get more attention focused on this stuff to speed up the answering of these questions is because we don't know the answers to these questions.
I thought you found the cure to hearing loss in Korea and wanted promote awareness to that treatment?
 
I thought you found the cure to hearing loss in Korea and wanted promote awareness to that treatment?
Why can't I be all for all hearing regeneration technology? FX-322 may even be superior to bone marrow/PRP treatments, requiring far less procedures, and no bone marrow extractions.

I've already stated my research implicates components of PRP act on LGR5+stem cells just like FX-322.

They have to mix FX-322 with a gel to keep it in the middle ear. What if mixing FX-322 with PRP is even better because of PRP's healing effect on the eardrum?
 
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There are some bright brains at Frequency Therapeutics. But O´boy do they like to go slow... :banghead:
It's just the way it is. Otonomy is moving slow too.
It's a combination of investors and the FDA.

If I had millions of dollars I would take these drugs off the shelf that have been safety tested in mice and have humans injected and the results published in 3 months flat. I wouldn't worry about IP or a business model. Rich people spend ridiculous money on nonsense that does nothing all the time. I would be more than happy to blow a fortune on a cure for tinnitus and then make the product open source for any company to produce at the lowest possible price.
 
There are some bright brains at Frequency Therapeutics. But O´boy do they like to go slow... :banghead:
Summer vacation, they are on Cape Cod, or various beautiful places, eating farmers market foods, fresh fish and enjoying their well earned quality cars. Sorry man, they ain't gonna sacrifice their well earned lives for a bunch of cochlear zombies with blood dripping from their ears.
 
Those who control the money take the money.
What controls the money though? I don't think the investors just hand over money without knowing in some detail how it's going to be spent. And if Frequency Therapeutics just siphon off money for themselves I think those investors can afford some very good lawyers.
 
Yeah! The idea of fast tracking seems to differ among us. Nothing published of fast tracking status anyway. The end of phase 1/2 was published in April but the trial was finished months before. When details of phase 2a will be published in September, it might mean a start of the trial at the end of 2019. So a little less than a year. I do think that the FDA is the bottleneck. Really hope for a change in law. Or a scenario like: Mr. President re-elected, and then one morning getting sudden hearing loss + tinnitus...
 
Aren't they in full Phase 2 right now? Is that supposed to end in September?

With phase 1/2 completed earlier this year, around the time of the $40 million USD investment?
 
It's just the way it is. Otonomy is moving slow too.
It's a combination of investors and the FDA.

If I had millions of dollars I would take these drugs off the shelf that have been safety tested in mice and have humans injected and the results published in 3 months flat. I wouldn't worry about IP or a business model. Rich people spend ridiculous money on nonsense that does nothing all the time. I would be more than happy to blow a fortune on a cure for tinnitus and then make the product open source for any company to produce at the lowest possible price.
But if things, regarding seemingly all kinds of approaches to regenerate our HC, are as restricted as you say, I don´t see how money would help?

One could of course always push it as an illegal substance on the streets.
I can picture it now, people sitting in dark alleys, not with needles in their veins, but in their ears. LOL!
 
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Yeah! The idea of fast tracking seems to differ among us. Nothing published of fast tracking status anyway. The end of phase 1/2 was published in April but the trial was finished months before. When details of phase 2a will be published in September, it might mean a start of the trial at the end of 2019. So a little less than a year. I do think that the FDA is the bottleneck. Really hope for a change in law. Or a scenario like: Mr. President re-elected, and then one morning getting sudden hearing loss + tinnitus...
Ronald Reagan had hearing loss and tinnitus. I'm not sure how much sympathy we'll get from this President. Considering all the serviceman with tinnitus, and the absolutely astronomical sums of money they pay out in disability, you would think treatment or a cure would be a top priority. I often wonder how much tinnitus factors into the suicide rate for our veterans. Tinnitus on top of PTSD doesn't make for very good mental health. It's an absolute shame on our nation that tinnitus isn't given top priority.
 
But if things, regarding seemingly all kinds of approaches to regenerate our HC, are as restricted as you say, I don´t see how money would help?

One could of course always push it as an illegal substance on the streets.
I can picture it now, people sitting in dark alleys, not with needles in their veins, but in their ears. LOL!
LOL. The money could go to lobbyists and advertising campaigns. That kind of stuff really can get things moving.
Also, more money could pay for larger trials.

It would have to be something big, like Trump tweeting about it, getting the FDA to accelerate their reviews and for Frequency Therapeutics and Otonomy etc. to hire more people to run more trials concurrently.
 

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