Does the brainstem count as brain? Where do you think ringing takes place? Not in the ears for sure. Doctors would be able to hear it. Assuming we are talking about subjective tinnitus.
I suggest that we restore those sensorineural structures and see what happens. It may cure all forms of subjective tinnitus, or only tinnitus associated with noise induced hearing loss. It may cure tinnitus in this group, or only reduce it. It may not work at all! You may restore your perfect hearing, but you may still be stuck with tinnitus. Or it may take time for the brain to adjust itself to the new sound information coming in from the cochlea that has not been there for years. That may be the process that reduces or cures tinnitus. No one knows for sure.
No one knows for sure, because we don't know if tinnitus associated with noise induced hearing loss is actively sustained and generated by the damaged cochlea, or if the cochlea was just a trigger point and the noise generation takes place elsewhere.
Have you tried restoring your hearing loss lately? Maybe tried hearing aids?
Yes, that may be true. It may be triggered by hearing loss, and then go on to live a life of its own, higher up the system.
No one knows for sure...
I know I have my doubts too. But we are just gonna have to sit tight and wait. Hearing loss in particular, but also tinnitus is finally getting attention in the media. Can hearing restoration reduce or cure tinnitus? Maybe... maybe not! We will know soon enough. We are finally on the brink of answering this question once and for all.
Chloe got cured of her tinnitus, didn't she?
Why would you not accept this? I know these are just isolated cases. Which is exactly why we need large clinical trials. So we should be cautiously optimistic.
What else could we possibly do?
What do you think causes it?
You don't guess, you either have a positive view or you don't. I think we have more than one reason to be optimistic. What you describe is the result of some of the latest research.
Chain reactions are stopped by breaking the chain. Assuming that cochlear damage is part of this chain that generates tinnitus, then repairing the damage in the cochlea may help break this chain. Perhaps not as much "breaking" the chain, as reducing the activity in the chain. Think of the way chain reactions in a nuclear power plant works, where control rods are normally used to apply some breaking power and reduce the nuclear reaction or fission.
However, if the cochlear damage is just the trigger point, while the tinnitus is sustained in a chain or loop higher up in the system, then repairing the damage in the cochlea may not do much to stop or reduce the hyperactivity in the circuit that generates the tinnitus.
Assuming cochlear damage is part of the chain that sustains tinnitus.
What example? How long time? What kind of injury?... damaged cochlea I assume?
Assuming cochlear damage is part of the chain that sustains tinnitus.
This is one of the theories behind tinnitus, one I am inclined to believe in, or at very least see it tested. If it doesn't help we can move on to test other theories. The work that researchers have put into repairing cochlear damage is unbelievable. This is too good to be a complete flop! Even if it does not help tinnitus, which we still don't know for sure... even moderate success in restoring hearing will mean an enormous success for science.
What kind of brain damage would you expect to cause tinnitus? If cochlear damage causes hyperactivity in the auditory system, and that in turn generates tinnitus, then cochlear damage can be seen as a brain damage. If you consider tinnitus as a disease in its own right, rather than a symptom of a disease or a damage which it often is portrayed as.
What is DNS?
Many of you seem to underestimate the importance of therapeutic hearing restoration. Or am I the one overestimating hearing restoration? As a cure for tinnitus? Maybe so, but I like to think that hearing restoration will serve as an important inroad for many different avenues of regenerative medicine, and we, as a group of people with tinnitus and/or hearing loss will finally get an answer to the big question. Can hearing restoration reduce or cure tinnitus? That's the million dollar question! Only time will tell for sure. It will not take long now till we get an answer. Frequency Therapeutics may be the first company to give us the answer. Till then, keep the hopes up!
It may remain in some cases? But that's good, right? If it remains only in some cases, it means that it will not remain in most cases. So in most cases it will be either reduced or cured.I am inclined to think that even though hearing is restored that tinnitus will remain, at least in some cases.
Did you mean to say causes for tinnitus? There may be several causes for tinnitus. But what can we do about it? I know complaining won't help. What is the most common cause of tinnitus? Or what is the most probable cause of tinnitus? The most common cause of tinnitus is noise induced hearing loss. Maybe I should say that tinnitus is most commonly associated with noise induced hearing loss. The hearing loss itself may be just a trigger as some of you have pointed out.The reason I say this is that there are for me personally so many other symptoms to T.
I suggest that we restore those sensorineural structures and see what happens. It may cure all forms of subjective tinnitus, or only tinnitus associated with noise induced hearing loss. It may cure tinnitus in this group, or only reduce it. It may not work at all! You may restore your perfect hearing, but you may still be stuck with tinnitus. Or it may take time for the brain to adjust itself to the new sound information coming in from the cochlea that has not been there for years. That may be the process that reduces or cures tinnitus. No one knows for sure.
No one knows for sure, because we don't know if tinnitus associated with noise induced hearing loss is actively sustained and generated by the damaged cochlea, or if the cochlea was just a trigger point and the noise generation takes place elsewhere.
How do lasers sound like? Like phasers in Star Trek?Brain buzz and insane laser sounds when waking up that I simply do not believe are related to hearing loss.
Have you tried restoring your hearing loss lately? Maybe tried hearing aids?
What about the human body is not chemical?Its something else, something chemical ... Maybe started with hearing loss but something happens in the brain.
Yes, that may be true. It may be triggered by hearing loss, and then go on to live a life of its own, higher up the system.
No one knows for sure...
I know I have my doubts too. But we are just gonna have to sit tight and wait. Hearing loss in particular, but also tinnitus is finally getting attention in the media. Can hearing restoration reduce or cure tinnitus? Maybe... maybe not! We will know soon enough. We are finally on the brink of answering this question once and for all.
Are you referring to Chloe Sohl? What is this LLLT case you refer to?Well we have seen some cases of improved hearing reducing T (stem cell therapy, LLLT). But I am weary of accepting this as a solution.
Chloe got cured of her tinnitus, didn't she?
Why would you not accept this? I know these are just isolated cases. Which is exactly why we need large clinical trials. So we should be cautiously optimistic.
What else could we possibly do?
I now have the electrical head buzzing as well and it does not seems like normal T.
What do you think causes it?
Here's my best guess in trying to have a positive approach: we know that hearing loss causes the nerves to become overactive, I think this causes a chain reaction to other surrounding nerves (some which can feel like they're buzzing) perhaps if the root of the overactivity (the hearing loss) were addressed, it would stop the chain reaction.
You don't guess, you either have a positive view or you don't. I think we have more than one reason to be optimistic. What you describe is the result of some of the latest research.
Chain reactions are stopped by breaking the chain. Assuming that cochlear damage is part of this chain that generates tinnitus, then repairing the damage in the cochlea may help break this chain. Perhaps not as much "breaking" the chain, as reducing the activity in the chain. Think of the way chain reactions in a nuclear power plant works, where control rods are normally used to apply some breaking power and reduce the nuclear reaction or fission.
However, if the cochlear damage is just the trigger point, while the tinnitus is sustained in a chain or loop higher up in the system, then repairing the damage in the cochlea may not do much to stop or reduce the hyperactivity in the circuit that generates the tinnitus.
For noise induced hearing loss I would think that restoration of the signals would reduce/eliminate T.
Assuming cochlear damage is part of the chain that sustains tinnitus.
You can look at examples where an injury has occurred T develops but over time the injury is repaired and T is eliminated.
What example? How long time? What kind of injury?... damaged cochlea I assume?
The brain is constantly interacting with your ears so if there is a change to your ears either negatively (more damage) or positively (restoration of damage) the brain should follow suit.
Assuming cochlear damage is part of the chain that sustains tinnitus.
This is one of the theories behind tinnitus, one I am inclined to believe in, or at very least see it tested. If it doesn't help we can move on to test other theories. The work that researchers have put into repairing cochlear damage is unbelievable. This is too good to be a complete flop! Even if it does not help tinnitus, which we still don't know for sure... even moderate success in restoring hearing will mean an enormous success for science.
Yes, I think so too. At very least, tinnitus will be reduced. Assuming that the damaged cochlea is part of the circuit that sustains tinnitus.I get that time is factor here but really I think that the brain will update to changes.
Maybe... maybe not. If that is the case, we can move on to other theories.Now if brain damage is the major cause of someones T then fixing the ears may not play a role.
What kind of brain damage would you expect to cause tinnitus? If cochlear damage causes hyperactivity in the auditory system, and that in turn generates tinnitus, then cochlear damage can be seen as a brain damage. If you consider tinnitus as a disease in its own right, rather than a symptom of a disease or a damage which it often is portrayed as.
As opposed to in the ear? Subjective tinnitus has always been in the head. It's a perception of sound that doesn't exist. Where else would that perception take place?this thing is in the head now
If the switch is the cochlea, and it's part of this evil circle generating tinnitus, then repairing the cochlea may help reduce tinnitus or even cure it.the switch has been triggered and over excitement taking place
No obvious hearing loss, but what about non-obvious hearing loss?this is where I see a solution for my type of t (have no obvious hearing loss), DNS or something that addresses the neuron's response...
What is DNS?
Yes, it is very complicated. Thankfully, we have smart people working on solving the problem. We have several reasons to be optimistic.Still studying the whole thing, very complicated...
Many of you seem to underestimate the importance of therapeutic hearing restoration. Or am I the one overestimating hearing restoration? As a cure for tinnitus? Maybe so, but I like to think that hearing restoration will serve as an important inroad for many different avenues of regenerative medicine, and we, as a group of people with tinnitus and/or hearing loss will finally get an answer to the big question. Can hearing restoration reduce or cure tinnitus? That's the million dollar question! Only time will tell for sure. It will not take long now till we get an answer. Frequency Therapeutics may be the first company to give us the answer. Till then, keep the hopes up!