Hyperacusis without the Pain

[Tony Phylactou]

It seems like I have different kinds of H, so I'll talk about H without pain.

Some sounds just seem too much for me -- airplanes, trains, and motorcycles. They don't cause me pain but they're so loud to me that I instinctively feel the need to cover my ears.

Then there's the sensitivity to faraway sounds. At work, my desk used to be beside the window. I sat there for more than a year, and I never heard the honks of cars down below. I heard the occasional sirens but everyone sitting by the windows could hear them.

When I got H, I heard all the honking, screeching, squealing of vehicles. They weren't painful but so distracting. Because of that, I had to move my desk away from the window. So yeah, some sounds stand out to me, including the "S" sound when people speak.

Mine is exactly the same is it Hyperacusis or not?

 

[Marc22]

I have had hyperacusis for 23 years and I have two distinctive patterns when it gets bad. In one, every sound bothers me, but there is NO physical pain. In the other, I also have a burning pain, sometimes radiating to a lesser extent into my jaw. Even after all this time, I still do not know why one pattern would happen and not the other. Not that it matters in a practical way. In both instances, I feel rotten.

One may be wondering, especially a newbie, that without a burning pain, am I not still in pain? Well, yes, but the "painless" hyperacusis is of a different quality which is hard to describe in words. It is like I am just wide open to the noise world without any defense.

Marco

 

[Juan]

I have had hyperacusis for 23 years and I have two distinctive patterns when it gets bad. In one, every sound bothers me, but there is NO physical pain. In the other, I also have a burning pain, sometimes radiating to a lesser extent into my jaw. Even after all this time, I still do not know why one pattern would happen and not the other. Not that it matters in a practical way. In both instances, I feel rotten.

One may be wondering, especially a newbie, that without a burning pain, am I not still in pain? Well, yes, but the "painless" hyperacusis is of a different quality which is hard to describe in words. It is like I am just wide open to the noise world without any defense.

Marco

Hey Marco! Did you lose hearing over those years with hyperacusis? How's your audiogram today, if I may ask?

I have suffered from hyperacusis for many years too and my hearing is getting worse..

Juan

 

[AmericanJosh]

Does the instant need of covering my ears or walk away counts as H?

It sounds like this:

Misophonia (dislike of sound) is also an adverse response to sound no matter what volume the sound is. Typically misophonia characterizes an individual who reacts strongly to soft sounds and sometimes is further triggered by seeing the source of the offending sound. Common examples would include but are not limited to: the sound of people eating, smacking their lips, sniffing, the sound of certain consonants like p, s, or t, and repetitive sounds. These individuals do not have a collapsed tolerance to sound which would be evident in a Loudness Discomfort Level (LDL) test.

 

[Marc22]

Dear Juan:

Sorry about the late response to you. I try to check out threads that I have contributed to regularly, but, alas, if someone posts many days after I post, I can miss something adressed to me.

To answer your question, I do not beleive that I have sufferred hearing loss from a purely subjective point of view. Really, I never thought of getting it checked out. And to tell you the truth, I would be reluctant to have my ears checked for loss of hearing, because I would be afraid that some technician might accidentally blast my ear accidentally while testing. Or even that the average sounds from the test might set me back being so close to my ears. But if an ear specialist insisted, warning me that some tests were needed to perhaps help prevent some condition that was deteriorating, I would do it.

Marco

 

[Contrast]

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This is all a great summary of the state of the art of the matter, or an opening for what should be getting debated around, instead of Jastreboff or Liebermann talking at conferences just because they slap ''hyperacusis'' onto their essay titles, or the disgraceful parading around of the term ''misophonia''. Movements are mentioned as illusory or real depending on what forum post or esoteric pubmed article one is reading and I can't be arsed right now to go into all the specifics.

Why are you comparing a man who shills TRT propaganda and holds back research to an actual researcher who's research could soon lead to groundbreaking treatments for inner ear disorders and help all of us?

 

[japongus]

Why are you comparing a man who shills TRT propaganda and holds back research to an actual researcher who's research could soon lead to groundbreaking treatments for inner ear disorders and help all of us?

What's Liberman done, apart from take the dubious torch of ''hidden hearing loss'' from the TRT gang and try to give it credibility, and find a few fibers in the cochlear that could be pain fibers?

''Hidden hearing loss'' was a fail from the TRT gang that they resorted to once it was established hearing loss couldn't be linked to T and H. We're at a stage where poets like the above @Yashin are far superior to insecure little conference circuit bitches looking to get published. Rob the shitlord over at chat-h belongs to the second camp, by the way.

Anyway, I can't remember Liberman much. To add him next to Jastreboff, I must have been reading an article of his about hidden hearing loss and central gain, and back then I was looking to find a link with the actual ear, the muscles near it, the middle ear and so on. So they seemed, and still do in a way, to be two sides of the same coin. Why would you think Liberman is a hero of some sort after reading Yashin's post above, which ridicules many of the people talking about hyperacusis as religious? I seemed to have been like Yashin above, in that I've read a lot about the middle ear to be suspicious of it and to be unimpressed by the new iteration of central gain theory, hidden hearing loss speculation, and some random fiber found on the cochlea. TRT folk weren't discredited because he found a pain fiber in the cochlea, they had already been talking gaping nonsense for decades before that and some of us had been calling them out on that too.