I Developed Tinnitus After the Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine

[Damocles]

I despise pharma and have been a tremendous critic for years; I feel I was iatrogenically damaged by the pharma industry pushing ADD drugs when I was a youth, and I can cite a dozen examples of hideous, immoral and often illegal things pharma co's have done.

What happened to you man? You used to be cool...

I was cynical enough about this that I bought a bunch of Pfizer stock the day I got jabbed (it's up 40%!)

Not really something you should boast about when you're making arguments that are supposed to be unbiased and impartial, that are also influencing people on this forum to make decisions that may ultimately ruin their lives.

based on extensive global data from hundreds of millions of people, they work very well.

Oh god there's not a single scrap of evidence to suggest this.

I interact with a lot of ICU staff

Yeah, you and everyone else here. Is there anyone on Tinnitus Talk that doesn't have a "friend" who's a doctor? Put your hands up.

The leading causes of death in the U.S. are still heart disease and cancer by a significant margin. Both conditions are preventable with diet and exercise. How come they don't receive nearly the same attention that COVID-19 does?

These conditions receive immense attention, immense funding, and are constantly a source of media discussion, medical pressure, etc.

Do they? What happened to the mandated exercise for heart disease?

Or the blanket ban on smoking and junk food?

Anyway, all of this has strayed from the OP. I wanna make one thing super clear:

I am completely open to the idea that @Erdem had tinnitus that may have been caused by the vaccine, and that @Brian P's may have been made worse. I only say "may have", because statistically, some amount of people will develop random tinnitus over any time frame, and we just vaxed 2/3 the country, so we're bound to get some false positives.

So am I the only person here who finds @linearb's constant gaslighting of the vaccine injured on this forum nauseating?

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/posts/6063757

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/posts/610471/

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/posts/610586/

Why does he never apply this conditional to those who developed tinnitus from the virus?

I mean okay, I don't buy it, but let's apply this incredibly shoddy mathematical caveat he's invented, to this figure we've settled on, as an indicator for risk of tinnitus when infected with COVID-19:

15,000 people develop tinnitus without any known cause every week in the US (according to @linearb, not me), and we're seeing 70,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the US per week

We use the median of the 7-15% tinnitus risk associated with COVID-19, he keeps quoting (which is inaccurate anyway, because the most conservative study put it at 5% to 1 sf); which leaves us with 11%.

So 11% of 70,000 = 7,700

7,700 people in the US developing tinnitus from COVID-19 each week; that would be terrible (if it were true).

But now for the fun part, we apply the @linearb gaslight theory whereby you subtract 15,000 from the number of people developing tinnitus, because they would have developed it anyway.

7,700 - 15,000 = -7,300.

And there you have it; no one is developing tinnitus from COVID-19.

@linearb was right, gaslighting people is fun as sh*t. We should all do it more often!!

 

[CamilleCR]

COVID-19 is much more likely to cause tinnitus - and plenty of other health problems - than the COVID-19 vaccine. I've had three of the Pfizer vaccines, the two-shot dose, and the booster, and my tinnitus is the same. It is manageable during the day, but when I lay down to sleep, I have to have a sound machine turned up high to drown it out. I do have otosclerosis, and will probably have surgery for that. I would not risk all kinds of health problems, and maybe even death, from COVID-19. If you do get a spike, I know it can be awful, but it should calm down with time. If you have otosclerosis, like I do, maybe surgery can help you. I'm going to schedule it, I think.

 

[CamilleCR]

Why are there so many people who support big pharma these days? It's like the vast majority of social media has been bought out by Pfizer and Moderna. Did we forget the opioid crisis they caused?

Hospitals were understaffed, lacked beds, and had extremely long ER wait times long before COVID-19 came along. Why is it such a big deal now? Why are the unvaxxed blamed for a problem that existed long before COVID-19 did?

Doping someone up with benzos, sticking them on a ventilator, turning off the lights, and then leaving the room is an acceptable form of treatment?

The leading causes of death in the U.S. are still heart disease and cancer by a significant margin. Both conditions are preventable with diet and exercise. How come they don't receive nearly the same attention that COVID-19 does?

In January 2021, COVID-19 became the leading cause of death in the US:

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-cov...-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-united-states/

I wouldn't say that either cancer or heart disease is preventable with diet and exercise. Certainly, some cases are, but not all. There are people who eat a very healthy diet and exercise and still get cancer or heart disease. Sometimes, it's genetics. Other times, the heart simply wears out with age, or the immune system declines, and people get cancer. And COVID-19 has become a pandemic of the unvaccinated. In the US, at least only about 61% of people are vaccinated, while we need about 85% to defeat COVID-19. Meantime, it has changed many lives significantly.

People who have cancer or heart disease are very likely to seek medical help, but about 1/3 of Americans just want to risk COVID-19 and make life horrible for all of us. This is a global problem that needs global cooperation to defeat.

 

[Ed209]

I was talking to the wife of one of my students, yesterday, who is double vaxxed and came down with COVID-19 around 3 weeks ago. She is convinced she would have been hospitalised and in a bad way if she hadn't have had the vaccines because she still got it bad. She has a tight chest, lethargy, and said she has lost her hearing. She said she can barely hear what people are saying, but I explained to her that it could be that her Eustachian tubes are blocked rather than it being sensorineural hearing loss. She won't know for sure until she gets assessed.

 

[GregCA]

She said she can barely hear what people are saying, but I explained to her that it could be that her Eustachian tubes are blocked rather than it being sensorineural hearing loss.

A bone conduction test should help figure that out.

 

[volsung37]

I have had hugely increased tinnitus following a Pfizer vaccination 2 weeks ago. Tinnitus levels are now through the roof. Previous to vaccination my tinnitus was barely noticeable. I will not be taking any more vaccines into my body. I'm afraid now though that considerable damage has already been done. The horrible irony now is that the first Pfizer vaccine is said to be relatively ineffective against the new variant. I feel I have ruined my life for nothing.

 

[Clerkp]

I have had hugely increased tinnitus following a Pfizer vaccination 2 weeks ago. Tinnitus levels are now through the roof. Previous to vaccination my tinnitus was barely noticeable. I will not be taking any more vaccines into my body. I'm afraid now though that considerable damage has already been done. The horrible irony now is that the first Pfizer vaccine is said to be relatively ineffective against the new variant. I feel I have ruined my life for nothing.

Give it some time to settle down. IF the vaccine is responsible for the spike, it should be a temporary inflammatory effect. I know this is no solace but a couple of things to consider: 1. the more you think about your tinnitus, the louder it is perceived and 2. the vaccine should not cause permanent lasting tinnitus spikes. That said, it certainly could take several weeks to a month to settle.

 

[Brian P]

Give it some time to settle down. IF the vaccine is responsible for the spike, it should be a temporary inflammatory effect. I know this is no solace but a couple of things to consider: 1. the more you think about your tinnitus, the louder it is perceived and 2. the vaccine should not cause permanent lasting tinnitus spikes. That said, it certainly could take several weeks to a month to settle.

Mine has been 10 months. Most people do not get better from the vaccine-induced tinnitus. Many people are going on 1 year with no relief.

 

[Wrfortiscue]

Mine has been 10 months. Most people do not get better from the vaccine-induced tinnitus. Many people are going on 1 year with no relief.

Most people do get better, but most don't eliminate the tinnitus 100%.

 

[Clerkp]

Mine has been 10 months. Most people do not get better from the vaccine-induced tinnitus. Many people are going on 1 year with no relief.

I think we should be careful using the word "most" unless you have evidence to back it up. I understand that you are still suffering from the vaccine induced tinnitus. That said, I have not seen anything supporting the ideal that "most" people who get a spike from the shot do not recover. This board is where people come who have been negatively affected. There is tons of confirmation bias. For every post I've seen of someone complaining of vaccine induced tinnitus there is at least 1 saying no effect at all. And at most there are 50 to 100 people here talking about it against literally hundreds of millions of shots.

I truly hope you recover from this - it's awful and I know you are struggling.

 

[volsung37]

I've more or less recovered from tinnitus once. It is a long slog. The main thing is being able to sleep.

A proper sleep regime needs to be set up. Getting up at the same time and not succumbing to just lying around. In the early days (where unfortunately I am again) sleep inducing drugs including alcohol in moderation can be helpful.

 

[Brian P]

I've more or less recovered from tinnitus once. It is a long slog. The main thing is being able to sleep.

A proper sleep regime needs to be set up. Getting up at the same time and not succumbing to just lying around. In the early days (where unfortunately I am again) sleep inducing drugs including alcohol in moderation can be helpful.

You recovered once you lucky dog you. How was it caused?

 

[volsung37]

You recovered once you lucky dog you. How was it caused?

I doubt I'll ever know Brian.

My journey started with pulsatile tinnitus in 2014 then changed to 'ordinary' tinnitus in 2016, and then a combination of both for a few years.

I believe my tinnitus is as a result of some sort of inflammation. With this present bout I will be taking lots of Turmeric and ginger to reduce this. Black pepper is said to increase the uptake of Turmeric in a drink. Plenty of walking by the sea and in forests also helped recovery before. That my tinnitus was sparked off again by the vaccine increases my suspicions around inflammation. I wish there was some decent research being done on this.

 

[Matchbox]

Part of me is starting to wonder if getting Omicron unvaxxed is actually the best strategy if it is indeed milder. Without more information on the mutations to the binding receptor against typical ACE2 or the impact on those receptors it's hard to say.

The fact people aren't losing sense of smell with this doesn't make a whole whack of sense.

The best bet would be "being vaxxed" anyways, but part of me wonders if a low load of Omicron is actually better to develop a whole stew of antibody lookalikes, not just one target that mRNA tailors to.

If Omicron has any of the same effects on hearing as COVID-19 Delta then the vaxx is still the way to go.

I'm still playing with the idea. It seems at least one shot is a very good idea to have some reaction, or a single shot vaxx and just load up on vitamin D and keep steroids handy.

Seems most people are getting bad on shot 2, when the "pseudo viral" load would be highest. Also assuming it's due to inflammation or ACE2 like mimicry of the antibodies.

Lots and lots of probably right but for the wrong reasons assumption making.

With Christmas coming the choice to just avoid COVID-19 is coming to an end, so a decision I need to make pretty much today.

 

[Sonic17]

Are you aware there are some pretty simple ways to increase oxygen levels in the body, long before a person should ever consider being put on a ventilator? The whole ventilator thing just strikes me as another cash cow (and incredibly invasive), and should be discarded for much safer, cheaper, and effective measures.

How do you raise oxygen levels?

 

[Lane]

How do you raise oxygen levels?

Hi @Sonic17 -- Thanks for asking!

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@Sonic17 -- Many NDs routinely have their COVID-19 patients nebulize a very low concentration of hydrogen peroxide, which has the effect of directly killing the virus, as well as raising oxygen levels in the lungs. The H2O2 you buy in stores is 3%, and it only takes a .5% solution to kill the virus. Many people have nebulized up to 3% H2O2 very successfully, but others have found it to be irritating. Very few problems have been reported with concentrations lower than 3%.

According to my understanding, ozone (O3) also raises oxygen levels, somewhat similarly to H2O2. Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2) breaks down to water and O1--sometimes referred to as singlet oxygen. O1 is what is what makes it so potently anti-microbrial--or perhaps anti-pathogenic. It then combines with other O1 to form the more stable O2. Because O3 is unstable, it quickly breaks down to O2 and O1, with similar effects of H2O2 breaking down. -- You may want to check out O3 softgels as probably the simplist way to supplement with ozone. -- PurO3 Ozonated Olive Oil Capsules

BTW, the first ozonated olive oil company, was formed by Nikola Tesla back in the early 1900's. Not sure anybody would want to claim Tesla was some kind of non-scientific kook. Unfortunately, that's what mainstream medicine was pretty successful at doing with 2-time Nobel Prize winner in physics Linus Pauling, who championed Vitamin C as a potent antiviral. It's interesting to note that the body's immune system creates H2O2 when confronted with a pathogen, and that supplemental Vitamin C is converted to H2O2 by the body--which would seem to me to be an indirect way to raise O2 levels in the body. It would explain why the body can easily tolerate 20-30 grams and more of Vit. C when sick.

And then there's HBOT, which is harder to access unless you have your own chamber. It saturates the body with O2 directly, and can reach places in the body that is hard to reach by oxygen circulating in the bloodstream alone. It sort of speaks for itself as being a very effective and safe way to quickly raise oxygen levels. MUCH safer than putting somebody on a ventilator!

BTW, I have a 5-gallon drum of 35% H2O2 on hand in case I or anybody I know contracts COyVID. Got it at a wholesale place for about $70, though you usually have to pay $50-$60 for a single gallon. I think anybody that chooses not to get a COVID-19 vaccination should have a well thought out plan of action in case they do become infected. I feel I'm adequately prepared on many fronts, and have no fear of this virus. Why would I when it's well documented (though somewhat difficult to find) that effective and safe strategies exist to pretty easily successfully navigate a COVID-19 infection.

I'll finish with a rhetorical question: -- When many NDs are using the above methods (and more) to successfully treat their COVID-19 patients, and are censored and threatened with legal action if they don't "cease and desist" reporting their success online and in YouTube videos, don't you just have to ask yourself,, "why is this the case"? -- Hint: It would make a pretty convincing case that COVID-19 vaccines may not necessarily be as necessary as advertised. -- @Damocles.

 

[Davy]

No one ends up on a ventilator unless they are over 60.

My nephew is on a ventilator and he's 19...

 

[Brian P]

My nephew is on a ventilator and he's 19...

Sorry. Any preexisting conditions? Asthma? The reason why I got the vaccine was asthma. Boy was that not a good move. As with any disease there will be outliers. Many people randomly died of the flu who were otherwise healthy. People are dying from the damn vaccine too.

 

[Davy]

Sorry. Any preexisting conditions? Asthma? The reason why I got the vaccine was asthma. Boy was that not a good move. As with any disease there will be outliers. Many people randomly died of the flu who were otherwise healthy. People are dying from the damn vaccine too.

No preexisting conditions.

 

[Matchbox]

My nephew is on a ventilator and he's 19...

I think the real issue is screwed if you are screwed if you aren't.

Death by this is real, but so is worse tinnitus. If you can isolate yourself why take ANY risk?

I do not agree with strong arming people with your jobs on the line to get the vaxx.
If you are getting tested frequently and are taking TO THE MOON precautions (N95 respirator, none of this chin diaper shit) I don't see the need to risk yourself if you are taking an abundance of caution and vigilance for yourself and the public.

Anything less than that than you are not taking the responsibility required to preserve your freedom of choice because you indeed are putting others at risk by not having sufficient precautions (barring risk to yourself of vaccination side effects, REAL risk, which I think the subset of the population with autoimmune conditions or hydrops or otosclerosis absolutely are in).

My only hesitation with vaxxing is tinnitus and hearing loss. I do the above precautions and work remotely.

I won't even be traveling to see others for xmas.

If I were healthy or had just hissing tinnitus? The risk/reward obviously skews to not dying and not such crazy isolation.

 

[LaurieP]

Hi,

I too developed tinnitus in both ears after my second Pfizer vaccine.

In my case, I have pulsatile tinnitus, which is not normal tinnitus but a rare condition when you hear your own heartbeat in your ears.

Best way to describe it is a high pitched buzzing like a mosquito but with someone turning the volume up and down in sync with your pulse. (Pulsatile tinnitus can also be low pitched.)

Just starting on this journey and will update with anything I can find out.

These two pages have good info on pulsatile tinnitus if this affects you:

Diagnosis and Treatment of Pulsatile Tinnitus

If You Have Pulsatile Tinnitus, Here's the First Thing You Need to Do to Get Answers and a Diagnosis

Last thing I wanted to say - I can live with the pulsatile tinnitus, plenty of ways to distract myself. However, I found myself being affected by other conditions, e.g. hyperacusis, misophonia/phonophobia, i.e. fear of sound, and it was becoming a psychological issue. I really had to pull myself up, do CBT, relax, face-my-fears, etc.

If you find yourself on that path, don't ignore it, act quickly. I am very mentally strong for reasons I will not share here, but I really found myself going down the rabbit hole.

Best of luck to everyone.

 

[DebInAustralia]

OP, if you can sleep with just a TV consider yourself among the lucky ones. For me, sleep is the worst time. I have a hard time tuning it out at night whereas during the day I can go hours without thinking much about it. My bedroom arrangement consists of a fan, white noise machine and TV and even with all that I can still hear the tinnitus.

I've had tinnitus since 2013. I know it can be debilitating. Mine isn't behaving atm.

I wanted to say in spite of the volume, I had mostly learnt early on, how to zzz without masking (which annoyed me anyway). I didn't realise what I was doing at the time, but I think I stumbled upon mindfulness meditation... using my tinnitus as a focal point to drift off to sleep.

I recall the first few minutes of laying in the quiet was bloody awful. But, I persisted and found my panic settled a little... and my mind even started drifting onto other thoughts.

I have slept like this for many years doing just this. I admittedly am experience a set back, so having to rehabituate again. I refuse to use masking because I want my brain to know that this is nothing to scared of.

It is exhausting running away from the noise, so I guess my tactic is to make a friend of it. Easier said than done, but if we can learn to not care about it, then it is no longer a problem.

 

[AndrewLee]

This topic caught my eye and I thought my story might be relevant.

I got COVID-19 Delta in August 2021. I was unvaccinated because I live a very sterile and lonely life and didn't need to visit places or touch anything. I still lasted until August, then caught it somehow.

I recovered from most of it except the tinnitus which was one of the first symptoms. I had only had static type tinnitus very temporarily before from hypoxia, never lasted, so it didn't bother me until it wouldn't go away a month later.

I was a prime candidate for not needing the vaccine, I took vitamins every day and walked alone every day. I did everything I was supposed to and it still got me and gave me very annoying tinnitus.

I don't want to risk getting COVID-19 again on top of tinnitus, so 5 months since the COVID-19 infection, I have vaccinated.

I have very strong opinion that COVID-19 infection almost always causes some high frequency hearing loss, just some people don't know much about it and not everyone gets tinnitus from it.

Going to an audiologist and getting a good hearing test result does nothing to check those high frequencies which I thoroughly believe gave me my tinnitus.

I will try some things to cure myself, but considering that I was unvaccinated for a long long time and caught the worst variant, it could be worse. COVID-19 infection made a mess of my mental health and even if mental health was the only thing that the COVID-19 affected and even if the vaccine was 50 percent effective, I would still go back in time and take it in the beginning if I could have. That's just me though and I strongly disagree with a mandate on it. Your body, your choice.

 

[ErnieMassri]

Hello. I am 29-year-old male living in Turkey. Actually, this matter might be familiar to people who suffer from tinnitus after the COVID-9 vaccination. But I wanted to talk about my trouble too.

As you can see above I got the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine on (28.08.2021). 14 days after the Pfizer jab, I got constant tinnitus. I don't even understand which ear of mine is ringing because there is always some high pitching noise. First few days, I was feeling like my right ear has more ringing, but now I feel the same for my left ear. I think it comes from the brain.

I went to an ENT, had a hearing test and an MRI of the inner ear. Nothing is wrong. Everything is good. I don't have any hearing loss or any problem with my eardrums. There was no inflammation. I asked for steroids from the doctor and he prescribed (Methylprednisolone) but I felt that it might not be a good idea to take it. I did a little research on the internet that Methylprednisolone is not good for tinnitus. Dexamethasone is a more efficient one. I did not contact him after that.

Then I went to the neighbourhood doctor and asked for an eardrop with a steroid (Dexamethasone) and I have been using it for a week. It is of no help, I don't even want to say this but it has made my tinnitus worse.

It might sound a bit weird, because Turkish doctors are completely ignorant about hearing issues. Even though on the doctor's website it said they are a specialist on tinnitus, he just thought it is a psychological problem.

Then I took the second COVID-19 vaccine on 20.09.2021 and I felt muscle pain and a little fever after 12 hours. But these symptoms I sorted out with Paracetamol. But the ear ringing didn't go away.

I really don't know what to do. Last night there was a huge and very loud high pitching sound in my left ear and I can say it was 8/10. But if I leave my TV on, I can sleep without any problem.

Just wanted to share my story. Thanks, everyone.

I will update this thread if there is any improvement in my tinnitus.

Has your tinnitus improved? How are you doing?

 

[Travis Henry]

Vaccines are poison. 1 Moderna shot kicked my tinnitus off.