I Have Tinnitus due to the Dental Work by an Incompetent Dentist

[luckyman316]

Thanks, @stickywicket after thinking, I decided to call the prosthodontist. He said he was on vacation for a week and that if I were to come back in, he'd have to do a full dental exam on me to get this done (after he was going to do this on my consent the other day? huh?) He then told me that my prior dentist should be skilled enough to make this adjustment. Something tells me he does not want to deal with me, so I'm going back to my normal dentist to talk about the bite adjustment and mention to go ahead and grind down the crowns and if a hole is put in it, then I'll consider new crowns (which I may do anyway). What a pain this has been!

 

[luckyman316]

Just an update, I had my regular DDS take care of this last night. He was able to see where the occlusal interference was and where the bite was too high. He got it as perfect as he could by actually adjusting the crowns this time. I felt fine until later that night, when I seemed to have a major headache. I suspect it was from my jaw/mouth trying to get back into the proper place after this adjustment. Woke up this morning, a LOT of neck and back pain was gone. Unfortunately, tinnitus is still here but it seems to be a little more faint than usual so I suspect it may either go away completely or reduce drastically within the next few days. I'll know how much better this made me by Sunday!

 

[stickywicket]

@luckyman316 I'm very glad to hear this good news! It is incredible what a small adjustment can do to improve neck pain, and even tinnitus.

I think that as we get older, just as it takes us longer to recover from a night of drinking or heal a cut, we are also more affected by issues with misalignment. A misalignment of my bite may not have affected me the same way when I was younger and more resilient.

Prior to having my bite adjusted, I was so miserable with neck pain and high volume T. I thought that I would never be able to travel again because the neck pain would be so bad and I wouldn't be able to find a chiropractor while traveling. Now, even though I still get regular chiropractor adjustments, I have significantly less pain. I felt like I got my life back!

I know that this is a forum for tinnitus, but it is all related. For pete's sake, my C1-C2 vertebrae are inches from my inner ear, and share the same central nervous system. An occlusal interference can cause neck pain by misalignment of your C1/C2 vertebrae, and the resulting strained muscles will affect the blood flow, and electrical signaling by the nerves. As an aside, I think that part of healing after the bite adjustment should include regular light exercise to maintain good circulation and loosen the affected muscles. I have a computer job, but now I make sure that I take regular breaks and stretch/exercise.

 

[luckyman316]

Circling back on this, starting the procedure for new crowns on Monday

 

[stickywicket]

Circling back on this, starting the procedure for new crowns on Monday

Please talk to your dentist about a bite guard for night time. Uneven bite, night time bruxism, clenching, grinding are all also correlated with tinnitus. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16202044

 

[luckyman316]

Please talk to your dentist about a bite guard for night time. Uneven bite, night time bruxism, clenching, grinding are all also correlated with tinnitus. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16202044

I already have one that he made me. Been using it since March, no real improvement. Ironically, I didn't have any of those issues BEFORE I had my second crown placed. They came about after.

 

[wishingluck]

Stickywicket, I also have LOT of bite problems (prognathism and misaligned teeth) and a -really-stiff neck. When I walk, I literally have to massage it. The T also changes if I raise or lower head. As for doctors? I saw lots of them through the years, most seem so incompetent, they move at the pace of a snail, and you have to chase them up to get them doing what they said they would do, not to mention they 'diagnose' you in the most stupid ways.

I remeber I told one doctor I have sleep apnea, and that I literally hear myself stopping breathing and then gasping for breath. You know when you are half asleep but you still are not entirely asleep?

The doctor argued: 'how can you know that you have sleep apnea, if you are asleep?'. Seriously, can a doctor really be that dumb? That's just one example, I have so many others.

I wish you all the best.

 

[stickywicket]

@wishingluck, Thank you for your post. One of the major things I've learned about dealing with medical issues, is to skip the generalists and see the specialists. The price/cost if often similar to the generalist, and the specialists are better educated, and usually do a better job with diagnostics. For example, never let a dentist do your root canal when you can see a Endodontist who has better tools and specializes in root canals. Chose a Prosthodontist for your dentistry instead of your run of the mill dentist.

And, the same lesson applies to veterinary situations. Recently I have been dealing with my elderly cat having medical issues. After two incompetent vets, I found a "Specialist Vet" who attended an extra year or two of school to study Gastrointestinal issues with small animals, and she is absolutely brilliant. A consult with her was close to the same price as a regular vet.

 

[Joshua Wark]

Wow, thank you for posting this. I just had a similar experience. For the last 3 weeks I have had horrible tinitus along with other terrible symptoms (my lips, tongue and chin were numb, shooting sensations through my body). I thought I was having a stroke. Doctors blamed it on anxiety. Finally my tooth starting hurting really bad. I went to the dentist and the bite was pretty off. He adjusted it and now all my symptoms are almost gone. I still have maybe 20% of the tinnitus I had but it's so much better. I really hope it completely goes away. I can't believe what I just went through due to an incorrect bite on a crown. The dentist even admitted that's probably what caused it.

Did your tinnitus ever go away after the bite was fixed?

 

[Atlantis]

Wow, thank you for posting this. I just had a similar experience. For the last 3 weeks I have had horrible tinitus along with other terrible symptoms (my lips, tongue and chin were numb, shooting sensations through my body). I thought I was having a stroke. Doctors blamed it on anxiety. Finally my tooth starting hurting really bad. I went to the dentist and the bite was pretty off. He adjusted it and now all my symptoms are almost gone. I still have maybe 20% of the tinnitus I had but it's so much better. I really hope it completely goes away. I can't believe what I just went through due to an incorrect bite on a crown. The dentist even admitted that's probably what caused it.

Did your tinnitus ever go away after the bite was fixed?

You should post your experience with the bite issues in the success stories category.

 

[stickywicket]

Wow, thank you for posting this. I just had a similar experience. ...... I can't believe what I just went through due to an incorrect bite on a crown. The dentist even admitted that's probably what caused it.

Did your tinnitus ever go away after the bite was fixed?

My tinnitus has not completely subsided, but it also took me years to figure out my bite problem. Your T may dissipate permanently because you found the cause quickly and the nerves are less traumatized. My T mostly sounds like a tiny bit of far away ringing, like in the background if you were in a quiet flotation tank. Almost like a faint hum of fluorescent light bulb in a big room. Hard to describe, but it is nowhere near the maddening loud ring that it was when it started.

 

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My tinnitus has always been louder in the morning, which is a good indication of night time bruxism / grinding.

Makes perfect sense. Mine is louder first thing - in fact, although it goes away completely, it has only ever 'not been there' on waking up three or four times in four years.

 

[TinnitusSicko]

Here is my story on how my tinnitus started.
It was in summer (bad one). Probably the same month when I heard the announcement at workplace about closure of the company and layoffs. Within a week or two, a filling came off from and chipped canine tooth. Two days of tooth pain and then the pain was gone. In the same month or two, I got a tinnitus on both ears. Noises and levels of volume are random and unpredictable. I though it was due to clenching my teeth at night during the sleep. I had those grinding cases only twice. Also I have cracking jaw (shifting when opening and closing) due to 4 wisdom teeth surgery 20 years ago when I was a teen. Got back teeth amalgams replaced with white ones. Developed sensitivity to cold drinks and chewing something hard. Occasionally I got flare ups (a month or so) on back teeth due to almonds and cold drinks but there was no tinnitus at that time. Well then, after one year of tinnitus I got a vertigo attack (which got fixed trough therapy) but tinnitus remains. Sometimes it gives me tremors. Hard to predict what causing it because tinnitus attacks is so random. Tinnitus is always present and get frequently worsening. Rarely I get quite (low volume tinnitus) moments. Do not know how to proceed from here. So far I made following observation from my experience and from reading this forum,

My experience,
1) tremors are symptoms of poisoning – I suspect a mercury poisoning either through fish eating or after removing amalgams and covering the same tooth with other filling which means leakage is inward.
2) maybe its due to chipped canine tooth and exposed root canal
3) maybe pinched nerves in a jaw
4) sometimes sleeping makes me tired and make things worst.

Forum experience,
1) Root canal done badly and covered with a crown means toxins and bacteria cannot bleed out (gingivitis) but grows inside the tooth which then get absorbed by circulating system which leads to continuous poisoning of the system. If I intend to have a root canal, I do not cover the tooth with crown or anything else. Root canal is a like a tree with many branches (very microscopic). Dentist can remove a trunk but not branches. I think it is better to have gingivitis than having internal system continuously poisoned.
2) When experience tinnitus for first time if experienced something loud before that (concert etc) then its due to hearing damage which should make tinnitus go away after few weeks. Either way I always see audiologist or family doctor to check my eardrums (a membrane) for holes. If I have holes in it means tinnitus is due to ear infection. A hole in membrane usually a permanent damage. Anyone can also get hole in the membrane by jumping into water in swimming pool (know one case) or cleaning ear with a stick.

Food for though,

If you watch history documentary, notice that human skeletons of ancient and not so ancient times sometimes have perfectly healthy teeth even on old age skeleton folks. Does that means many foods today are very toxic? Toxic enough to melt ones teeth? Buried skeletons and teeth are exposed to more nasty bacteria than supposed living teeth.

Third world country people have better teeth than first world countries that has better 'health care'.

In UK, King's College of London they teach new dentists and graduate students how to regenerate tooth. No more pulling, drilling, roots, implants, etc (these words sound like civil engineering construction) . There is a company called reminova that sells tools for dentists to do regenerative therapy. It probably has a low success rate because it is at its infancy stage. At least there is some hope for young folks but for older generation like me ..... there is nothing to say.

 

[stickywicket]

Forum experience,
1) Root canal done badly and covered with a crown means toxins and bacteria cannot bleed out (gingivitis) but grows inside the tooth which then get absorbed by circulating system which leads to continuous poisoning of the system. If I intend to have a root canal, I do not cover the tooth with crown or anything else. Root canal is a like a tree with many branches (very microscopic). Dentist can remove a trunk but not branches. I think it is better to have gingivitis than having internal system continuously poisoned.
...........
In UK, King's College of London they teach new dentists and graduate students how to regenerate tooth. No more pulling, drilling, roots, implants, etc (these words sound like civil engineering construction) . There is a company called reminova that sells tools for dentists to do regenerative therapy. It probably has a low success rate because it is at its infancy stage. At least there is some hope for young folks but for older generation like me ..... there is nothing to say.

After a root canal, the tooth is hollowed out and therefore weak, and without the strong outer casing of the crown, the root canal tooth could crack and split. If you do need a root canal, make sure that you see an Endodontist with the latest imaging equipment.

I hope that they can heal and/or regrow teeth some day!

Also, I agree with you about the tremors. And I think people who are genetically non-methylators have a harder time with eliminating various chemicals/ toxins. https://www.google.com/webhp#q=unable+to+methylate

 

[TinnitusSicko]

I noticed that when lying in bed or getting up, tinnitus is intense. When sitting in front of computer and leaning my upper jaw on hand reduces the tinnitus intensity but it is still there. I also have popping sound on the back of the neck (clicking in jaws TB bone I had for 30 years) Could be a neck issue?

I found out through searching that root canals was proven to be very toxic by U.S. scientist before WWII. They were planning to ban it. After WWII they decided to continue to do rc.
@wishingluck What you describe about sleeping and gasping for air, looks like I have sleep apnea too.

 

[Carlos]

Anyone below 24 with tinntius is too young to have it, I just have to put it out there. Assuming 40 is young to have tinnitus gives people the assumption that real young people with tinnitus are non-existent or rare, that stereotype, isn't true. I was 18 when my life was ruined. Getting tinntius at 40 is rare, but it doesnt mean its a young age to have it, its within the late twenties and under. We exist too. These stereotypes keep preventative measures and information from reaching the real "young" age group who is succeptible to tinnitus and have no clue it exists (I was one of them), because everyone assumes it only happens when youre old, so its nothing to worry about.

 

[Alue]

Anyone below 24 with tinntius is too young to have it, I just have to put it out there. Assuming 40 is young to have tinnitus gives people the assumption that real young people with tinnitus are non-existent or rare, that stereotype, isn't true. I was 18 when my life was ruined. Getting tinntius at 40 is rare, but it doesnt mean its a young age to have it, its within the late twenties and under. We exist too. These stereotypes keep preventative measures and information from reaching the real "young" age group who is succeptible to tinnitus and have no clue it exists (I was one of them), because everyone assumes it only happens when youre old, so its nothing to worry about.

Age doesn't matter, I'm 31, so I guess that puts me into the 'old' category, but I had other things happen to me that permanently affected my life, one at 16, the other at 29. Both are untreatable, both have a big impact on my life. The one that happened when I was 29 I was told by doctors I'm too young for that. I do hate getting told I'm too young for that by doctors and having them assume things are psychosomatic simply because of my age, though. There are good doctors, and then there are some pretty ignorant ones. I get what you're saying, just putting it out there that people can suffer from ailments equally regardless of age.