Impulse Noise in Gym — Damage?

#31
coffee_girl said:
I agree, certain pitches really bother me (more than regular sounds)...i don't know if you are more likely to spike due to the kind of pitch or not. Is yours reactive tinnitus?
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Yeah is it is now all these problems started after I had an MRI in 2017 which definitely gave me a permanent tinnitus increase. I never had muffled hearing though or ear fullness or any other symptoms apart from tinnitus increase and my hearing clinically has remained the same since I got to tinnitus over 6 years ago but these are not very accurate.

So it seems the more you damage your hearing the more easily you'll get spikes in the future.
 
#32
Eric N said:
Yeah is it is now all these problems started after I had an MRI in 2017 which definitely gave me a permanent tinnitus increase. I never had muffled hearing though or ear fullness or any other symptoms apart from tinnitus increase and my hearing clinically has remained the same since I got to tinnitus over 6 years ago but these are not very accurate.

So it seems the more you damage your hearing the more easily you'll get spikes in the future.
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I've seen a lot of your posts on this sub and I just want to say that you are incredibly brave and i don't know how you do it.
 
#33
@Bill Bauer do you take prednisone after every spike you have?
 
#35
Eric N said:
I'm really not sure this is good advice most accounts of people taking prednisone has been negative rather than positive.
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Its efficiency in SSHL has been studied and verified, though. So prednisone does have its place and should be kept around but I see it as a medicine of last resort - to be used if there's a marked distortion in hearing, or one has been exposed to a really traumatic noise like a gunshot or airbags.

I just had an unrelated memory pop up. It happened more than 10 years ago while I was still in university. We wanted to get the crowd's attention for an airsoft demonstration so one of the guys who had a real 9mm pistol fired it into the air using a blank cartridge. Without any warning. I am so ashamed of ourselves. I seriously hope no-one in that crowd had any issues because of our stupidity. I am so terribly sorry, people of that long-ago crowd. (At the time this didn't cause me any issues even though I already had my baseline T.)
 
#36
hans799 said:
a sealed bubble of steel which significantly attenuates any external noise
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Slamming car doors, and occasional passing loud motorcycles are some of the noises one is exposed to during driving. When I am driving on a highway (it can get pretty loud on a highway!), I wear Bose noise-cancelling headphones over earplugs.
hans799 said:
85dB of impulse noise is certainly harmless.
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It won't do any damage to the ear, but there are stories on this forum where noises like that had caused T spikes...
 
#38
Eric N, my tinnitus started after an MRI of the spine.I had nothing in my ear. I find it absurd to ask for MRI for anyone who has tinnitus and hyperacusis. I already read a scientific paper that states that 5 a 8% of people who are submitted to MRI can have hearing loss!!!!!!!!?????? That's a very serious thing, and the worst situation is that the doctor who request the exam does not know if he is not a tinnitus specialist.
 
#42
It's an unacceptable thing! And the worst thing is that: the radiologist does not know, nor the technician. When I was submitted to MRI, I requested double protection and they said that I did not need.
 
#43
High doses of magnesium have been proven to be more effective than prednisone. You have to continue taking it for about a month. Much cheaper and safer. I take 1 gram daily just because of the muscle relaxing and oto protective properties.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17402292/

@Bill Bauer have you considered taking magnesium daily as a precaution? It seems to limit cochlear damage.
 
#44
kelpiemsp said:
@Bill Bauer have you considered taking magnesium daily as a precaution? It seems to limit cochlear damage.
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I have been taking magnesium before bed for many months now. I am noticing that the sounds that used to feel uncomfortable in the past, seem more reasonable now. There might be a connection.
 
#45
@kelpiemsp I have been taking Magnesium bis glycinate. What have you been taking? The manufacturer of my magnesium recommends 1 capsule (200 mg) daily, and that is what I have been doing. What is the recommendation on your bottle of Magnesium? Is it one gram?
 
#46
kelpiemsp said:
High doses of magnesium have been proven to be more effective than prednisone. You have to continue taking it for about a month. Much cheaper and safer. I take 1 gram daily just because of the muscle relaxing and oto protective properties.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17402292/
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Thank you kelpie, I wasn't aware of this, I'll get on magnesium right away. How do you take the 1mg - split doses or all at once?

Update on my original post: it is now the next morning and both my T and my hearing seem to be normal. I think I got away with it, this time. I learned my lesson and will be wearing earplugs in the gym from now on.
 
#47
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#50
hans799 said:
And MRIs are also in there. Very useful thread, thanks!
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The original thread is
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/thread...es-places-to-watch-out-for.24715/#post-285202
there are some informative posts on the 7 pages of that thread. Unfortunately, only something like 1 in 10 posts are about the topic of the thread. The other 9 are people attacking the tread (e.g., "guys this thread is beyond paranoid. Worrying about any of that is not helpful at all.") and me trying to defend the thread.
 
#51
Bill Bauer said:
guys this thread is beyond paranoid. Worrying about any of that is not helpful at all
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I don't think any precaution is excessive when faced with a condition that can ruin your life, yet isn't decent enough to actually kill you, and has no cure and no treatment (although that will hopefully change with MuteButton 2). But to each their own.
 
#53
Gman said:
I hate that worrying feeling so much after noise incidents. I guess you just need to really carefully weigh up what you need to do.
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Me too.... it's the WORST feeling ever! Walking that tightrope of anticipation. Then feeling a huge sense of relief..... until next time..... :(
I'm currently trying to ride out a spike from a very loud school bell.... 11 days later... :(
 
#54
Vicki14 said:
Me too.... it's the WORST feeling ever! Walking that tightrope of anticipation. Then feeling a huge sense of relief..... until next time..... :(
I'm currently trying to ride out a spike from a very loud school bell.... 11 days later... :(
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I've received my custom-molded musician's earplugs and they're wonderful, much better than any other earplug I've used before. They are very comfortable, do not move or break the airtight seal even if I smile, talk or yawn, and because they have a flat attenuation (all frequencies are changed equally) there's no sense of being isolated/missing out. Everything's there, just quieter. I wore them to the gym this morning and it's been great. Weights dropping, plates clanking, and zero fear. I recommend you get a pair yourself!
 
#55
hans799 said:
I've received my custom-molded musician's earplugs and they're wonderful, much better than any other earplug I've used before. They are very comfortable, do not move or break the airtight seal even if I smile, talk or yawn, and because they have a flat attenuation (all frequencies are changed equally) there's no sense of being isolated/missing out. Everything's there, just quieter. I wore them to the gym this morning and it's been great. Weights dropping, plates clanking, and zero fear. I recommend you get a pair yourself!
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I'm seriously considering custom molded. How much and can you change the level of DB attentuation?
 
#56
kelpiemsp said:
I'm seriously considering custom molded. How much and can you change the level of DB attentuation?
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This pair cost me the equivalent of $100 in local currency. The silicone housing and the filter are separable (e.g. for cleaning) and thus the filters can easily be swapped. They're using standard Etymotic Research filters which are available in -9dB, -15dB and -25dB versions (I got the -25dB ones).

There are also electronic ones where you can actually adjust attenuation on the fly using a little control wheel, but those are much pricier, need batteries etc, so I went with the passive option.
 
#57
@hans799 I recently also got some custom ones, but they are far to hard and don't fit well so i will send them back and make new ones. What material are yours?

I normally use only foam earplugs since they are far the most comfortable and invisible, but i sometimes feel a bit out of the loop since they block nearly everything out:D
 
#59
I always download a virtual map of all places that I frequent just so I can map out n escape route in case the inevitable happens. It also details where all the alarms are located so I can avoid standing under them. It really helped ease my anxiety, now I know where I'm going and which areas are the safest to hang out at.

Its funny that I don't even care about an actual fire breaking out, but more concerned about the actual alarm bell destroying my ears.
 
#60
coffee_girl said:
Its funny that I don't even care about an actual fire breaking out, but more concerned about the actual alarm bell destroying my ears.
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And that captures everything that's horrible about tinnitus perfectly.

If the airplane I was on started to fall out of the sky I'd be more worried about barotrauma than about crashing. Because the crash is at least decent enough to kill you instantly, unlike barotrauma which tortures without end.
 

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