Introducing Myself and Losing All Hope

I know you're not asking about speculation. My concern is the accuracy of Hania's PTA as you've pulled me up over my suggestion of hidden hearing loss (as I didn't look at the audiogram properly at first). I don't expect Hania to know the exact type of headphone used but special ones are required for extended high frequency audiometry (i.e. not standard audiometric headphones). How do I/we know that her thresholds at frequencies higher than 8kHz are accurate? -5/-10dB hearing thresholds at 20kHz for a 20year old with history of more than one acoustic trauma!? Wouldn't you be a bit skeptical?

Hey i dont quite understand, is my hearing too good for all those acoustic traumas?
 
Your hearing looks pretty good. It's the first time I see an audiogram that shows better hearing on high frequencies than low frequencies.



Her audiogram goes way past 8 kHz (perhaps into the 16+ kHz). Hidden Hearing Loss (HHL) is orthogonal to the frequency domain : you can have HHL anywhere on the spectrum. In other words, a "perfect high frequency audiogram" is no guarantee that you have no HHL.



What is it that they found? (if you are comfortable disclosing it)
I wonder how they can positively say that it's unrelated to T.


They dont know it yet , 17 april i have to take (to my deepest regret) a second MRI scan to clearly say what it is
 
Thank you , i found out that medium sounds already trigger my t so i protect my hearing as much as possible
 
@Hania not bad, you have to , protect your ears. I see Bill Bauer been preaching that here on TT . Make perfect sense. Listen to your ears, it'll let you know when when you need Plugs. Feel better .
 
I know you're not asking about speculation. My concern is the accuracy of Hania's PTA as you've pulled me up over my suggestion of hidden hearing loss (as I didn't look at the audiogram properly at first). I don't expect Hania to know the exact type of headphone used but special ones are required for extended high frequency audiometry (i.e. not standard audiometric headphones). How do I/we know that her thresholds at frequencies higher than 8kHz are accurate? -5/-10dB hearing thresholds at 20kHz for a 20year old with history of more than one acoustic trauma!? Wouldn't you be a bit skeptical?

Yes of course one can be skeptical. I'm not trying to dismiss your skepticism.
It is well known that high frequency testing requires specialized equipment (mostly headphones). I was just wondering about the "size" remark, as to reproduce sound in high frequencies, you don't need big speakers (you need small "tweeters"), whereas low frequency sounds require large speakers (hence the massive speakers in bass modules).

What matters is the frequency response of the headphones more than the size, IMHO, as they don't need to be big to generate high frequency sound. However, it seems true that there is some kind of correlation (at least from a market perspective) between a good frequency response and the size of the headphone, perhaps because they need more room for various speakers as well as more sophisticated electronics (filters) and insulation.

At the end of the day, an audiologist is supposed to have calibrated equipment. When I did my HF hearing test, the audiologist told me that the data above 14 kHz or so wasn't to be trusted because of her equipment...
 
Yes of course one can be skeptical. I'm not trying to dismiss your skepticism.
It is well known that high frequency testing requires specialized equipment (mostly headphones). I was just wondering about the "size" remark, as to reproduce sound in high frequencies, you don't need big speakers (you need small "tweeters"), whereas low frequency sounds require large speakers (hence the massive speakers in bass modules).

What matters is the frequency response of the headphones more than the size, IMHO, as they don't need to be big to generate high frequency sound. However, it seems true that there is some kind of correlation (at least from a market perspective) between a good frequency response and the size of the headphone, perhaps because they need more room for various speakers as well as more sophisticated electronics (filters) and insulation.

At the end of the day, an audiologist is supposed to have calibrated equipment. When I did my HF hearing test, the audiologist told me that the data above 14 kHz or so wasn't to be trusted because of her equipment...

Thank you, I just had my doubts thats all. Yes, I would hope that her audiologist had the proper equipment calibrated to the relevant standards etc

I'm glad everything turned out well for Hania and hope she can find some peace from her T.
 
Thank you, I just had my doubts thats all. Yes, I would hope that her audiologist had the proper equipment calibrated to the relevant standards etc

I'm glad everything turned out well for Hania and hope she can find some peace from her T.

AMEN , the search is still going on tho
 
Hi Hania, i'm from Belgium too and suffer from T since 2004. Back then, I remember sitting in the waiting room at the ENT thinking how can I possible ontinue through this. Gradually i could accept my T and eventually it didn't bother me at all anymore. But i continued to expose me to loud music and since march this year my T has become much worse and on top of that severe H. Just avoid exposing yourself to loud noises in the future.
How are you doing these days?
I'm also still looking for a good ENT, i went too see Dr. Verhaert in Leuven but this was a terrible experience.
What are your experiences with UZA?
 

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