Lenire — Bimodal Stimulation Treatment by Neuromod

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Annpann said:
Allan, you have done loads of research and been following this for a long time. Do you really think someone who posts "I haven't done much research. I've only read a few articles" should have any influence on you whatsoever. There will always be skeptics and naysayers. There are still people who believe the earth is flat.
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I'm pretty sure being skeptical of a device that sells to desperate people for 2000 dollars and is being hailed as a breakthrough, isn't the same as being a flat earther!

If anything the comparison to a flat earther should be aimed more at the person who has only done research online, and is a believer and willing to pay 2000 dollars on something they don't know whether or not it works.

There are thousands of devices on the market that don't work.
 
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Just because someone had an appointment before Allan does not mean they are getting their device before him. Who knows what their personal schedules were? Maybe they had travel options, work, or other responsibilities that did not let them get the device on an exact date.
 
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dayma said:
Just because someone had an appointment before Allan does not mean they are getting their device before him. Who knows what their personal schedules were? Maybe they had travel options, work, or other responsibilities that did not let them get the device on an exact date.
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Sounds like there's a few of us all going on the same day. We can have a big tinnitus group hug.
 
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I've filled the form yesterday for an appointment. I've been having this sh*tty tinnitus for 5 months now. I'm just 28 years old, I don't want to live all my life with this :cry:

I hope that people who already have the device and are not commenting are people who feel better now and no longer want to keep on spending time in this forum.
 
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Kam75 said:
I've filled the form yesterday for an appointment. I've been having this sh*tty tinnitus for 5 months now. I'm just 28 years old, I don't want to live all my life with this :cry:

I hope that people who already have the device and are not commenting are people who feel better now and no longer want to keep on spending time in this forum.
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The first ones have only just received their devices so will have nothing to report yet.
 
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BobDigi said:
I'm pretty sure being skeptical of a device that sells to desperate people for 2000 dollars and is being hailed as a breakthrough, isn't the same as being a flat earther!

If anything the comparison to a flat earther should be aimed more at the person who has only done research online, and is a believer and willing to pay 2000 dollars on something they don't know whether or not it works.

There are thousands of devices on the market that don't work.
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How many of these thousands of devices that are on the market, have had scientific research done examining long term and reproducible effects in over 500 patients? How many of them are based upon a principle of treatment that has also proven outstanding results in separately conducted studies in the US, by other universities? And how many of them have presented their results in extensive presentations, showing transparently their proven results? And how many have had several verified and trusted users all claiming the tinnitus went away completely or was significantly reduced, due to treatments based on this very principle?

Or did you not yet find any of this information, due to your 'haven't done much research', before typing sentences like 'this screams fake' and 'a person who has done only research online and is a believer willing to pay 2000 dollars"?

You're in a thread of people following this for months, if not longer, who have all seen the hour+ Q&A done with the Neuromod founder, gone through their presentations, and have been extensively gathering data. Allow yourself to be informed by them before saying things like "fake".
 
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@Allan1967

Thanks Allan.

There seems to be a lot of doom laden posts about Lenire on here. If we have the money and are not getting into debt then why not give it a go. I'm going next week for 2.15 pm appt on 23rd.

I'm under no desperate delusion that it will be a miracle cure. It's an experiment that might help somewhat or maybe not at all.

I'm 70, still working and it's worth a chance.

I absolutely think you are doing the right thing by trying it.

Eve
 
#2,709
BobDigi said:
I've recently read about the Neuromod Lenire device and it looks to me like another medical con people will laugh about in years to come.

If anything the comparison to a flat earther should be aimed more at the person who has only done research online, and is a believer and willing to pay 2000 dollars on something they don't know whether or not it works.
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What have you read to come to this conclusion? Enlighten us with your superior intellect thou art Wise One.
 
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Kam75 said:
I've filled the form yesterday for an appointment. I've been having this sh*tty tinnitus for 5 months now. I'm just 28 years old, I don't want to live all my life with this :cry:

I hope that people who already have the device and are not commenting are people who feel better now and no longer want to keep on spending time in this forum.
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There will likely be a cure in your lifetime. I got mine at your age.
 
#2,712
Bob den Hartog said:
How many of these thousands of devices that are on the market, have had scientific research done examining long term and reproducible effects in over 500 patients? How many of them are based upon a principle of treatment that has also proven outstanding results in separately conducted studies in the US, by other universities? And how many of them have presented their results in extensive presentations, showing transparently their proven results? And how many have had several verified and trusted users all claiming the tinnitus went away completely or was significantly reduced, due to treatments based on this very principle?

Or did you not yet find any of this information, due to your 'haven't done much research', before typing sentences like 'this screams fake' and 'a person who has done only research online and is a believer willing to pay 2000 dollars"?

You're in a thread of people following this for months, if not longer, who have all seen the hour+ Q&A done with the Neuromod founder, gone through their presentations, and have been extensively gathering data. Allow yourself to be informed by them before saying things like "fake".
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Well said. Thanks for taking the time to write this. I first heard about this technology/product in September or October of last year. Nearly everyday since then I've dedicated time to reading any new information that was available. During that time I emailed both Hubert Lim and Susan Shore.

At least he was honest in stating he hadn't done any research. He didn't need to say that though. It was obvious as soon as I started reading his post.
 
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F-u-T said:
What have you read to come to this conclusion? Enlighten us with your superior intellect thou art Wise One.
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Just wait a year and we'll see who's right. I hope you are. But to me it seems to be another overpriced machine that offers nothing but the possibility to relieve people of their cash.

spedgas said:
He didn't need to say that though. It was obvious as soon as I started reading his post.
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Abs toning belts were meant to be a breakthrough for people wanting a flat toned stomach.
 
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BobDigi said:
Just wait a year and we'll see who's right. I hope you are. But to me it seems to be another overpriced machine that offers nothing but the possibility to relieve people of their cash.
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Can you comprehend what @Bob den Hartog said above and what I copy below?

After reading it, shut up and move on. Nobody wants to read your 12-year-old level arguments. You haven't even bothered learning about what bimodal stimulation is. To compare it to fake scam devices is laughable.

How many of these thousands of devices that are on the market, have had scientific research done examining long term and reproducible effects in over 500 patients? How many of them are based upon a principle of treatment that has also proven outstanding results in separately conducted studies in the US, by other universities? And how many of them have presented their results in extensive presentations, showing transparently their proven results? And how many have had several verified and trusted users all claiming the tinnitus went away completely or was significantly reduced, due to treatments based on this very principle?

Or did you not yet find any of this information, due to your 'haven't done much research', before typing sentences like 'this screams fake' and 'a person who has done only research online and is a believer willing to pay 2000 dollars"?

You're in a thread of people following this for months, if not longer, who have all seen the hour+ Q&A done with the Neuromod founder, gone through their presentations, and have been extensively gathering data. Allow yourself to be informed by them before saying things like "fake".
 
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spedgas said:
Certainly you can tell the difference between what Neuromod is doing and an ab toning infomercial that's on tv at 3am.
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My Ab toning belt worked great! 3 easy payments of $29.99 plus S&H. Order in the next 20 minutes to receive the free butt toner belt. A free $79.99 value.
 
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Does anyone know whether Lenire works on tinnitus with hearing loss? I got my tinnitus from sudden hearing loss in high frequencies and the tinnitus is high pitched which is rather annoying.
 
#2,724
Allan1967 said:
Yes I had to challenge some buffoon by the name of Walsh on Neuromod's Facebook page yesterday [on my wife's account as I'm blocked from commenting for another 27 days] who was giving it 'vulnerable people are being exploited' and 'once you've spent all your money you can't continue with the treatment' and 'it won't cure you' with some actual logic and some facts.

Idiots like him keep us from getting anywhere.
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OMG that was you!? I was reading that and thinking 'this woman sounds just like Allan' LOL
 
#2,725
dayma said:
Just because someone had an appointment before Allan does not mean they are getting their device before him. Who knows what their personal schedules were? Maybe they had travel options, work, or other responsibilities that did not let them get the device on an exact date.
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My guess is that Neuromod are awaiting the first shipment of the devices for these initial users, which would explain why we are all getting dates around mid July.
 
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OK, five surveys sent out to the early participants. We are sending the survey approximately one or two weeks in advance of the estimated fitting date.

If you haven't done so already, it would be very helpful if you could send me your initial assessment date or fitting date (either PM me or respond to the introductory email I sent out earlier).

A big thank you @Hazel and @Markku for all the work on the survey!
 
#2,728
Jack Straw said:
@PeterPan can you help us out with my above post? Who were the users who went for an assessment appointment before Allan?
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Yes, Clearance has previously told us in the forum his initial appointment was 18/6. Allan and Cojackb have also told us in the forum that 25/6 and 26/6 were their initial appointment dates!
 
#2,729
Just joined this thread from the dark of the research section. I am a skeptic about everything, but I hope to hell you guys find peace through this and will be following work an open mind! I'll follow soon after it we see it working :)

I'm interested if anyone with NIHL had been found to be unsuitable for this system in the consultation?
 

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