Low-Level Laser Therapy (LLLT) for Tinnitus — Experiences (Dr. Wilden, etc.)

[DeanD]

How is the LLLT going @10Kcd?

Are you still noticing an improvement?

Sorry if you have mentioned in another thread or post (I have been through all 71 pages of this thread, but may have missed it), is your tinnitus bilateral, and do you have one or multiple tones?

I am in the same acute phase (1.5 months in) and am considering this.

 

[10Kcd]

How is the LLLT going @10Kcd?

Are you still noticing an improvement?

Sorry if you have mentioned in another thread or post (I have been through all 71 pages of this thread, but may have missed it), is your tinnitus bilateral, and do you have one or multiple tones?

I am in the same acute phase (1.5 months in) and am considering this.

Hi @DeanD - thanks for asking, and sorry I missed this question. I've been mostly posting about my LLLT experiences over at this thread (I don't know how to link straight to a particular point on the thread, but my most recent post is down at the bottom of that page).

To answer your questions about my tinnitus, it's unilateral (left) and is a single tone which has slid up to about 14-15 kHz. Sometimes I get what I call ghost tones on my right side (I recognize that all tinnitus tones could be referred to as ghost tones) but these are gratefully rare and relatively fleeting - they'll come and go within a few minutes.

Definitely check out my posts at the above link for greater explanation, but to summarize my experience with LLLT thus far, I have noticed a reduction in my sound sensitivity most and maybe a reduction in the volume some (though that still shifts a lot, and it's hard to quantify how much it's reduced since I started LLLT).

I really can't say that LLLT is responsible for any of the positive shifts I've experienced - it's just as likely to be my natural healing process. Most importantly, my tinnitus hasn't gone away. And, whereas at the beginning of my LLLT experience, I was occasionally noticing little stretches where I could barely hear my tinnitus, I haven't experienced that in my most recent treatment cycles.

I wouldn't advise against LLLT, and it probably better to do it in a more acute phase (I started mine about 3 months after an acoustic trauma, so I don't know how that compares to 1.5 months post-microsuction), but I also can't say with any certainty that LLLT actually does anything. I had the luxury of being able to afford an at-home device, and I haven't experienced any negative impact, so it's been a neutral experience at worst for me.

I hope this helps. Again, sorry for the delay, and please feel free to ask if you've got other questions.

 

[lymebite]

Anyone heard of SonicCalm Pro? An LLLT device for tinnitus at a low price - $69.

SonicCalm Pro

What results can I get?
You can expect a 50% reduction in volume after 3 months, and a 60-80% reduction at 12 months.

 

[Philip83]

Anyone heard of SonicCalm Pro? An LLLT device for tinnitus at a low price - $69.

SonicCalm Pro

What results can I get?
You can expect a 50% reduction in volume after 3 months, and a 60-80% reduction at 12 months.

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Looks pretty scammy to me. I can't find any other info or reviews from it online, which makes it quite suspicious since the website says there's 8000 reviews

But then again, nothing to lose if you can try it for 90 days and then just send it back.

 

[lymebite]

the website says there's 8000

Indeed, I only see 10 reviews posted, not 8,000, and those 10 look like they were written by a low budget version of ChatGPT.

I wonder what Anne Harila thinks about this device?

 

[Dizzyhead888]

I have a red light infrared device that is in the form of 0.5m x 0.8m block. Are there any testimonies of such non-targeted devices used to improve tinnitus successfully, as the light is immersive?

 

[lapidus]

Fairly recent study on red and infrared laser therapy for tinnitus. It was published in March this year.

→ Effects of Red and Infrared Laser Therapy in Patients with Tinnitus: A Double-Blind, Clinical, Randomized Controlled Study Combining Light with Ultrasound, Drugs and Vacuum Therapy

 

[Nick47]

Fairly recent study on red and infrared laser therapy for tinnitus. It was published in March this year.

I have seen a wave of LLLT all over the internet in the last month. Just a repeat of a failed treatment, surely. Another study from Brazil, hailing LLLT as the most effective tinnitus treatment.

Anyone smell bullshit?

 

[Dizzyhead888]

I have a panel with red light & infrared that is in the form of 0.5 m x 0.8 m block.

Are there any testimonies of using such non-targeted large devices to improve tinnitus successfully? Like if I place it next to my ear and neck?

The infrared light is said to penetrate inside the tissues.

 

[Gabriel]

Hi guys,

Just bought this cheap LLLT out of AliExpress.

I thought it's so cheap I don't risk anything, plus after all LLLT is just red LED (ok and infrared, which this LED might not be but studies do not always mention infrared).

I will try it one hour per day, and let you know

 

[lolkas]

Hi guys,

Just bought this cheap LLLT out of AliExpress.

I thought it's so cheap I don't risk anything, plus after all LLLT is just red LED (ok and infrared, which this LED might not be but studies do not always mention infrared).

I will try it one hour per day, and let you know

Are you sure that the LEDs in these are strong enough?

 

[Cankom]

I thought it's so cheap I don't risk anything, plus after all LLLT is just red LED (ok and infrared, which this LED might not be but studies do not always mention infrared).

I will try it one hour per day, and let you know

@Gabriel, did you experience any improvements after using the LED earplugs?

 

[lymebite]

Has anyone had any luck emailing Lucky Laser recently? Do you know if the email listed in an earlier post (luckylaser@vip.163.com) is still working? The "contact us" links on their website seems broken...

I think Shanghai Lucky Laser may have gone out of business during the extended COVID-19 lockdowns in China, I don't see their website live anymore for any products.

If anyone is interested, I am putting my LK-COMBI Lucky Laser up for sale. Shipping to US only because it is very large and heavy and would be quite expensive elsewhere. It is the upgraded model with 4 laser probes instead of 2. Excellent condition in original packing suitcase container. Cost around $2700 new but I will sell for much less to someone interested in giving it a go. If interested, let me know by posting on my profile page.