MC Rider with Worsening Tinnitus, Don't Know Why?

[bjrossi]

Hi everyone!

I'm 30y/o, getting ringing ears every time I go riding motorcycle on the motorway, and the tinnitus stays and get louder every time!! :-(
I do not understand why??

I've always used SNR 36 dB plugs (Moldex PuraFit), I've also tried 3M 1100 (SNR 37 dB).
I also tried to have custom silicone earplugs made at an audiologist, with an SNR of 22 dB, but I don't like nor trust them them because they seem a lot louder than foam.

I have a well fitting helmet. My exhausts are stock and not noisy.
I have a faired touring bike, and an enduro bike with no fairing. Same effect on both.
I don't drive faster than about 70-80mph, which is the speed limit here.

I don't think the earplugs are too small. I insert the earplugs all the way in as far as they can go, and it's a bit of a fiddle to remove them afterwards.

After all this, I'm not sure what the cause is and what the solution is....

Are my ears much more sensitive than the norm? Is it wind noise, even after all the attenuation, or is it some kind of sensitivity to vibration?

If I can't stop it worsening, I'll have to stop riding :-(

 

[Kolisar]

Hi @bjrossi, welcome.

There is an old joke:

Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this"
Doctor: "Then stop doing that"

I would curtail your motorcycle riding until you figure this out. I would consider different earplugs, and talk to a doctor for advice.

 

[Wojtek Kalka]

Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this"
Doctor: "Then stop doing that"

Hehe sometimes the pain is worth it .. .. I rather would die then give up my motorbikes

 

[Santiago Biagi]

Either stop riding for a while, or stay on the forum. Remember that sound vibrates and might get to your ear thru bone conduction. I take it you been riding for some time, next time T could stay. Stop for a while and see if T ceases completely.

Take care!

 

[billie48]

After all this, I'm not sure what the cause is and what the solution is....

Welcome to the forum. Hearing loss and/or noise exposure is only one of many possible causes to trigger or aggravate existing tinnitus. This can include but not limited to drug reaction or side-effects from ototoxic drugs, ear wax build-up, ear or Eustachian tube infection or ETD, ear drum injury, fluid build-up in ears feeling pressured or fullness, sinus infection & congestion, TMJ, TTTS, high blood pressure or blood circulation problem, loud noise exposure or acoustic trauma/shock, head trauma & injury, neck injury or muscle problems, hearing loss, Meniere's Decease, barotrauma from sudden change of air pressure such as during landing & taking off on flights especially with blocked nose causing failure to balance the pressure changes, slapping of the ears, deep grief for the loss of loved ones, untreated sleep apnea, extreme, extended stress, anxiety & panic disorder, etc., etc. T can also be caused or made worse by unhealthy diet such as too much salt, sugar, caffeine, MSG, alcohol etc. or by lacking some mineral or vitamin supplements, such as Magnesium, Zinc, B12, D3 etc. See if you can find any other cause(s) for the spikes. If it is treatable, all the better. Good luck. God bless.

 

[MikeB1996]

Hey fellow riders, nice to see a few here i got my T from a loud rave about a month ago.. i ride an XJR 400 and use some earplugs . So far my T isn't getting louder so i hope I'm all good, and like @Wojtek Kalka Said, it is hard to give up motorcycles.

 

[linearb]

I don't ride more than an hour or two in a day, and I always wear earplugs. When I get spikes it seems to have as much to do with neck muscle stress, as with noise exposure (my bike is not very loud, stock Enfield 500 -- but eventually I will get a nearly silent Zero electric bike).

 

[AntonR]

I don't ride more than an hour or two in a day, and I always wear earplugs. When I get spikes it seems to have as much to do with neck muscle stress, as with noise exposure (my bike is not very loud, stock Enfield 500 -- but eventually I will get a nearly silent Zero electric bike).

With motorcycles its not so much the engine noise that's the issue. Its the wind buffeting through your helmet at higher speeds which reaches well past 85 DB.

I remember riding on freeways and express ways pre-tinnitus with no ear plugs, I always had fairly loud bikes but they were nothing compared to the wind noise.

 

[linearb]

With motorcycles its not so much the engine noise that's the issue. Its the wind buffeting through your helmet at higher speeds which reaches well past 85 DB.

I remember riding on freeways and express ways pre-tinnitus with no ear plugs, I always had fairly loud bikes but they were nothing compared to the wind noise.

right, I am well aware but I ride on country roads (often dirt) and rarely exceed 60mph (30-50 much more commonly), so wind noise is less of a concern. Also, because wind noise tends to be higher pitched than engine buzz, it can be more effectively attenuated with earplugs.

 

[BLane]

My T reacts to vibration as much or even more than noise. My guess is that yours is doing the same. I ended up selling my bike. =(

 

[lolkas]

Hi everyone!

I'm 30y/o, getting ringing ears every time I go riding motorcycle on the motorway, and the tinnitus stays and get louder every time!! :-(
I do not understand why??

I've always used SNR 36 dB plugs (Moldex PuraFit), I've also tried 3M 1100 (SNR 37 dB).
I also tried to have custom silicone earplugs made at an audiologist, with an SNR of 22 dB, but I don't like nor trust them them because they seem a lot louder than foam.

I have a well fitting helmet. My exhausts are stock and not noisy.
I have a faired touring bike, and an enduro bike with no fairing. Same effect on both.
I don't drive faster than about 70-80mph, which is the speed limit here.

I don't think the earplugs are too small. I insert the earplugs all the way in as far as they can go, and it's a bit of a fiddle to remove them afterwards.

After all this, I'm not sure what the cause is and what the solution is....

Are my ears much more sensitive than the norm? Is it wind noise, even after all the attenuation, or is it some kind of sensitivity to vibration?

If I can't stop it worsening, I'll have to stop riding :-(

I have T for 1 year and 3 Months. Two months ago i bought Ducati Monster 796 ABS and am riding quite often. I generally never go beyond 65 mp/h, however i ALWAYS put my Howard Leight MAX 34 DB NRR (Orange ones, with larger outter side). On top of that, i wear Schuberth S2 Sport which they rate as 84db "in-helmet" noise raiting that they register in wind tunnel with 65 mp/h wind speed. So if i take that and you know, cut at least 30 DB with earplugs - i am golden and have no issues listening to traffic and my T because there is nothing to mask it during the ride.

Only tho g i would like to mention is that if i get wind from the side, i try to "tuck on" and hug tank to get more aerodynamics, otherwise buffering from wind creates vibrations and my whole head feels like it is in shaker.

What kills motorcyclysts hearing is not an exhaust, but wind noise.

 

[Bill Bauer]

I'm 30y/o, getting ringing ears every time I go riding motorcycle on the motorway, and the tinnitus stays and get louder every time!! :-(
I do not understand why??

Our ears have been compromised. What a healthy person would not even notice, can cause bad spikes (that can end up being permanent).

 

[lolkas]

I wanted to add: just catched a spike in my right ear. Every now and then i get one, interrestigly enough during the day its one of these few secods "eeeee" and goes back however, if it is at night - it can last a bit.

P.S.

Has not been riding for a few weeks now, not sure it can be related to riding.