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#182
preslys said:
The paper is in review with a peer-reviewed journal so we cannot distribute it at this time. We will notify you as soon as it has been published.
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I asked that Jan 2014. Their answer:
MuteButton said:
Many thanks for your email.

We are due to launch mutebutton in June/July of this year in UK and Europe. We have run a number of studies and are hoping to have the results of our most recent study published soon, so for that reason we are unable (at the moment) to send papers or update to website with papers/results etc. However as soon as they are published this wont be a problem.

Mutebutton is a multi-sensory treatment that stimulates both the trigeminal and auditory nerve. As an clinical audiologist myself, I wouldnt be able to comment on the vagus nerve, but perhaps the manufactures of microtransponder could answer your questions.

Hope this answers some of your questions,

Rgds
Caroline
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#185
This commercial video of this device makes me emotional and horrendously angry as well when it doesn't have any effect at all..

But for now my sincere compliments
 
#186
What exactly is this treatment ? listening to tones while sucking on an electrode and watching Dora the Explorer?
Wait 50 new jobs!!! Ireland's unemployment rate will hit a 50 year low!
Minister of jobs (I guess that's what they call Minister of Labour there) just got a big fat bonus.
 
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#188
dan said:
What exactly is this treatment ? listening to tones while sucking on an electrode and watching Dora the Explorer?
Wait 50 new jobs!!! Ireland's unemployment rate will hit a 50 year low!
Minister of jobs (I guess that's what they call Minister of Labour there) just got a big fat bonus.
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Sjoerd said:
I do not know. But if I have to speculate......they do not have any real results....!
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they started selling their device.

But I don't see any guarantee about effectiveness.

https://www.mutebutton.ie/purchase/the-hermitage
 
#189
preslys said:
they started selling their device.

But I don't see any guarantee about effectiveness.
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I can understand they cannot guarantee anything. My biggest problem is the fact that they do not release any of their research data. Also, the do not propose a model on how this device should reverse the pathology of tinnitus.
 
#190
dan said:
What exactly is this treatment ? listening to tones while sucking on an electrode and watching Dora the Explorer?
Wait 50 new jobs!!! Ireland's unemployment rate will hit a 50 year low!
Minister of jobs (I guess that's what they call Minister of Labour there) just got a big fat bonus.
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@dan and all, I agree, this company seems questionable, and maybe their attempt at this doesn't work, I have no clue, but it's actually not a terrible idea they had and I imagine it's based off of neuroscientist Dr. Paul Bach-y-Rita's real technology and research that has worked at helping people regain function after suffering sensory brain trauma.

He did incredible things with neuroplasticity, you can read more about him in "The Brain That Changes Itself,"
a great, inspiring book about neuroplasticity success stories. Many years ago he was able to help a woman who had lost nearly all vestibular function to gentamicin (she couldn't stand, drive, felt like she was falling even when she was flat on the floor.) I'm not the person to explain it best, but I put a couple articles down there. I'll see if I can post the chapter in the book, too.

Anyway, this is actually one of the less ridiculous ideas that's come up in my opinion. I don't know if it works, but at least it's based off of something that did, it could be a step in the right direction.

Articles! :)

NY times article on similar tech and the woman Paul Bach-y-Rita helped: (looks kinda like mutebutton right?): http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/23/science/23sens.html?ex=1102218829&ei=1&en=9d8f104c257ef425&_r=0

Lots of Articles on Dr. Paul Bach-y-Rita: https://tcnl.bme.wisc.edu/taxonomy/term/13
 
#191
Dr. O Neill was on the radio yesterday talking about it. Said on average, it can reduce the volume of Tinnitus by around 40%.

Remains to be seen really, wonder if they have had much take up on the device.
 
#192
Greg Clarke said:
Dr. O Neill was on the radio yesterday talking about it. Said on average, it can reduce the volume of Tinnitus by around 40%.

Remains to be seen really, wonder if they have had much take up on the device.
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if it reduces tinnitus 40% it will be amazing and we can say that we are cured
so 2500 euros are nothing.
see links to understand how neuroplasticity works


 
#193
awbw8 said:
@dan and all, I agree, this company seems questionable, and maybe their attempt at this doesn't work, I have no clue, but it's actually not a terrible idea they had and I imagine it's based off of neuroscientist Dr. Paul Bach-y-Rita's real technology and research that has worked at helping people regain function after suffering sensory brain trauma.

He did incredible things with neuroplasticity, you can read more about him in "The Brain That Changes Itself,"
a great, inspiring book about neuroplasticity success stories. Many years ago he was able to help a woman who had lost nearly all vestibular function to gentamicin (she couldn't stand, drive, felt like she was falling even when she was flat on the floor.) I'm not the person to explain it best, but I put a couple articles down there. I'll see if I can post the chapter in the book, too.

Anyway, this is actually one of the less ridiculous ideas that's come up in my opinion. I don't know if it works, but at least it's based off of something that did, it could be a step in the right direction.

Articles! :)

NY times article on similar tech and the woman Paul Bach-y-Rita helped: (looks kinda like mutebutton right?): http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/23/science/23sens.html?ex=1102218829&ei=1&en=9d8f104c257ef425&_r=0

Lots of Articles on Dr. Paul Bach-y-Rita: https://tcnl.bme.wisc.edu/taxonomy/term/13
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I can not buy it now I wait until it will be approved by FDA
I e-mailed mutebutton, my email was

I am very interested in your prouduct but I don't see any guarantee about effectiveness
can you show me any clinical results.?

their answer is:

Dear furguson
Many thanks for your email.
Following the initial launch of the mutebutton device in Ireland on Thursday 11th Dec we have been inundated with an abundance of emails and calls regarding purchase of the device. The mutebutton device will be available to purchase online in Ireland from Mon 15th Dec, in the UK from February 2015 and we anticipate rolling out to the rest of Europe over the forthcoming months. We have plans to seek FDA approval and hopefully launch in US in due course.
Details regarding purchase and fitting of device is available via the website www.mutebutton.ie. If you are interested in a tinnitus consultation only, this appointment can also be booked online. Cost of the mutebutton is 2,500 euros and consultation only is 100 euros. In Ireland the cost of purchasing the device is unfortunately not covered as yet under the medical card scheme, and patients are advised to make contact with their own private health insurance company regarding private cover. As this is a medical device patients may be entitled for a 20% tax rebate claim.
You will receive confirmation from The Neuromod Clinic in Dublin regarding your clinic appointment no later than close of business on the next available working day (Mon-Fri). Contact details for the clinic; contact@theneuromodclinic.com. We hope in due course to partner with clinicians in Ireland, however initially The Neuromod Clinic is the only clinic authorised to fit and configure the mutebutton device.
We currently have no plans to run further clinical studies. Results from our previous clinical studies will be available soon via the mutebutton website.
Kind
Regards
Mutebutton Customer Service Team


Caroline Hamilton - Clinical Manager / Audiologist
Neuromod Devices
tel: 0877604415 / 01 7163640
mail: caroline.hamilton@neuromoddevices.com
web: www.neuromoddevices.com/ www.mutebutton.ie
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#194
preslys said:
I can not buy it now I wait until it will be approved by FDA
I e-mailed mutebutton, my email was

I am very interested in your prouduct but I don't see any guarantee about effectiveness
can you show me any clinical results.?

their answer is:

Dear furguson
Many thanks for your email.
Following the initial launch of the mutebutton device in Ireland on Thursday 11th Dec we have been inundated with an abundance of emails and calls regarding purchase of the device. The mutebutton device will be available to purchase online in Ireland from Mon 15th Dec, in the UK from February 2015 and we anticipate rolling out to the rest of Europe over the forthcoming months. We have plans to seek FDA approval and hopefully launch in US in due course.
Details regarding purchase and fitting of device is available via the website www.mutebutton.ie. If you are interested in a tinnitus consultation only, this appointment can also be booked online. Cost of the mutebutton is 2,500 euros and consultation only is 100 euros. In Ireland the cost of purchasing the device is unfortunately not covered as yet under the medical card scheme, and patients are advised to make contact with their own private health insurance company regarding private cover. As this is a medical device patients may be entitled for a 20% tax rebate claim.
You will receive confirmation from The Neuromod Clinic in Dublin regarding your clinic appointment no later than close of business on the next available working day (Mon-Fri). Contact details for the clinic; contact@theneuromodclinic.com. We hope in due course to partner with clinicians in Ireland, however initially The Neuromod Clinic is the only clinic authorised to fit and configure the mutebutton device.
We currently have no plans to run further clinical studies. Results from our previous clinical studies will be available soon via the mutebutton website.
Kind
Regards
Mutebutton Customer Service Team


Caroline Hamilton - Clinical Manager / Audiologist
Neuromod Devices
tel: 0877604415 / 01 7163640
mail: caroline.hamilton@neuromoddevices.com
web: www.neuromoddevices.com/ www.mutebutton.ie
Afficher l'historique des mails
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Well, I'm sure we'll all be interested to see the study when it pops up on the website "soon."
 
#195
2500 € that's just overpriced... I'm in Dublin, Ireland, I have not bad job but even that I cannot afford it. It's disgusting seeing when all off them corps just try to make many without any proofs that this actually work...
 
#196
Ireland to get first crack at new treatment for tinnitus sufferers
Michal said:
2500 € that's just overpriced... I'm in Dublin, Ireland, I have not bad job but even that I cannot afford it. It's disgusting seeing when all off them corps just try to make many without any proofs that this actually work...
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Do you think getting CE Marking approval is not enough to prove its effectiveness?
 
#197
preslys said:
Ireland to get first crack at new treatment for tinnitus sufferers


Do you think getting CE Marking approval is not enough to prove its effectiveness?
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CE Marking has nothing to do with effectiveness at all.
The CE marking indicates a product's compliance with EU legislation and so enables the free movement of products within the European market. By affixing the CE marking to a product, a manufacturer declares, on his sole responsibility, that the product meets all the legal requirements for the CE marking, which means that the product can be sold throughout the European Economic Area (EEA, the 28 Member States of the EU and European Free Trade Association (EFTA) countries Iceland, Norway, Liechtenstein). This also applies to products made in other countries which are sold in the EEA.

However, not all products must bear the CE marking, only product categories mentioned in specific EU directives on the CE marking.

CE marking does not indicate that a product was made in the EEA, but merely states that the product has been assessed before being placed on the market and thus satisfies the applicable legislative requirements (e.g. a harmonised level of safety) enabling it to be sold there. It means that the manufacturer has:
  • verified that the product complies with all relevant essential requirements (e.g. health and safety or environmental requirements) laid down in the applicable directive(s) and
  • if stipulated in the directive(s), had it examined by an independent conformity assessment body.
It is the manufacturer's responsibility to carry out the conformity assessment, to set up the technical file, to issue the declaration of conformity and to affix the CE marking to a product.
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http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/single-market-goods/cemarking/about-ce-marking/index_en.htm
 
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#202
The science behind it seems sound enough; Page 10 on this link is very interesting...

http://spdfoundation.net/pdf/dodds_synthesis.pdf

The latest research into the cause of T is that; Once a specific frequency isn't detected by the auditory cortex then the requisite neurons involved in detecting that specific start producing random noise and eventually form whats called enhanced neuronal synchronization.

Here's a really good link explaining the phenomena...

http://www.audiclave.com/DS overview/what_is_neural_synchronicity.htm

There's been a lot of research recently on increasing the sensitivity of surrounding (unaffected) neurons in a patient and hoping they will extend dendritic connections into the affected area (plasticise) and interfere with the firing pattern of the affected area; basically desynchronise them, the results are mixed but hopeful.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3387303/

Here's another link which explains why worrying about you T makes it worse.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9443467

Basically you're increasing neuronal connection to your limbic system and once a path becomes established it becomes the beaten track and easier to travel down, here's another link for the scientists out there...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myelinogenesis.

I'm wondering if the attentuation on the perception of T as an anxiety in this study is caused by increasing neuronal connection to the reward centre of the brain as the patients frequency discrimination improves and offsetting the converse anxiety model?

You can't feel two opposite emotions at the same time. Habituation is the perfect balance of reward and distress which leaves you in emotional homeostasis. Neither concerned or rewarded by it. It just is.

Maybe in the future a treatment for T will involve full cross sensory modality (Mutebutton being one) induced plasticity into the the affected area and pressure it into desynchronising from all sides? No neuron is an island.

Next time I have a spike I'm going to eat a full bar of Greene and Blacks chocolate. My reward centre will have something to say to my amygdala about that!
 
#203
@Silvine , you need to see this video, this guy is right on the money.....
https://archive.org/details/Redwood_Center_2011_09_21_Michael_Kilgard

I strongly believe that our brain is nothing more than a giant prediction machine. It is constantly making predictions of what to expect. Our senses are mainly there as feedback to correct the prediction (and make some god damn sense of the world).

At some point our brain is simply imprinting the memory of tinnitus (either by attention or fear). From that point on, well tinnitus is the prediction and it does not get corrected (because of hearing loss). Mute button is claiming (via another pathway into the brain), they can teach the brain the current prediction is wrong.

I really do like their Idea, but I do not like the fact that they don't tell us how it is supposed to work. They sell it, but there is no proof at all.....nothing....zipp...nada....noppes....zero...etc etc.
 
#205
Markku said:
CE Marking has nothing to do with effectiveness at all.


http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/single-market-goods/cemarking/about-ce-marking/index_en.htm
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The medical device CE Mark is required for the approved sale of any medical device in Europe. It certifies the safety and efficacy of the mutebutton tinnitus treatment and the competency of Neuromod Devices in being able to bring an approved medical device to market to treat this chronic condition,2 he said

http://www.businessworld.ie/livenews.htm?a=3237200;s=rollingnews.htm
 
#206
Sjoerd said:
I strongly believe that our brain is nothing more than a giant prediction machine. It is constantly making predictions of what to expect. Our senses are mainly there as feedback to correct the prediction (and make some god damn sense of the world).

At some point our brain is simply imprinting the memory of tinnitus (either by attention or fear). From that point on, well tinnitus is the prediction and it does not get corrected (because of hearing loss). Mute button is claiming (via another pathway into the brain), they can teach the brain the current prediction is wrong.

I really do like their Idea, but I do not like the fact that they don't tell us how it is supposed to work. They sell it, but there is no proof at all.....nothing....zipp...nada....noppes....zero...etc etc.
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@Sjoerd Excellent observations! I too would love for this treatment to work. And, while it's useful to learn about brain plasticity and multi-modal stimulation, we need to see why this specific treatment will work. Where are the clinical trials? Why has nothing been published on this specific invention?

This absence strongly suggests the device does not work as advertised.

But I hope I'm wrong! :)

@Silvine Thanks for the research! You did a great job pulling together why both the auditory and non-auditory areas of the brain are interconnected in tinnitus. And I do believe approaches like the Mute Button hold much promise. I just don't like devices that are marketed without being vetted first--and that only occurs in clinical trials.
 
#210
There are a good few Irish people on the forum, myself included. Of the members here I can't imagine any of them being interested in it for reasons documented throughout the thread.

Id imagine feedback on mutebutton will appear elsewhere on the web. And bear in mind it was only launched, could be several months into the new year before reports appear.
 
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