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[Daniel Lion]

It's just odd that the people who will supposedly administer these treatments are so out to lunch and clueless compared to the 'patients' PLUS they have never heard of the researchers (or their science studies) who have brought them the tools.

It's not odd, it's laziness, they don't care, mediocrity rules the day... in many professions... I find it sad and depressing that the "pros" don't know or care to know. Human nature I suppose, make the paycheck and get home.

 

[Paulmanlike]

I've had the complete opposite from 2 of my audiologists I've seen over the last couple of years.

The first one - I had great discussions via email with the audiologist who cleaned my ear. We were discussing ACRN. This was a few years ago. I found she was an excellent audiologist who was keeping an eye on the research. Her social media account on her business occasionally posts links to new research - such as the companies involved in regeneration. Recently I enquired about Neuromod and she had visited one of their stands and we also spoke about that. Very knowledgeable professional who will always respond to my emails.

The 2nd one I saw was in talks with Mark Williams - the leading audiologist of The Tinnitus Clinic - I'm assuming he was considering selling the device (ACRN). I think he was surprised I knew who he was talking about and what he was talking about. I told him about Neuromod which was new to him and gave him my thoughts that I would wait for this technology to come out. I sent him the Q&A and information on it. He was appreciative of the information I sent to him.

Like all professionals there's some good ones and I suppose the 'old school' ones. Not saying the old school ones are bad for everything else, but not all in the field will be up to date with the research.

 

[Helheim]

Yeah, your average audiologist's opinion means nothing when it comes to Neuromod.

Some of them don't even know what hyperacusis or TRT is, why would we expect them to be up to date with the modern stuff?

 

[ruud1boy]

If you got a used Neuromod off eBay...

...would you buy a new Tongue Tip? Or would you be OK with a complete stranger's saliva on your tongue?

If it cures my tinnitus, they can have stuck it up their arse for all I care.

 

[Drone Draper]

Bro, you gonna catch ecoli.

 

[Allan1967]

Email in today off Neuromod - we can expect an update via the mailing list 'very soon'.

 

[GamesB2]

Today (maybe, timezones are hard) is the day of the last conference we know about.

Anyone going to get the insider scoop?

Personally I'm hoping for 110% success rate.
Releasing tomorrow globally.
Free.

I am ready to be mildly disappointed.

 

[Bob den Hartog]

Personally I'm hoping for 110% success rate.

"Even participants with a tinnitus origin so unknown they themselves didn't even KNOW they had tinnitus were cured - it's a miracle machine, really".

 

[Paulmanlike]

Email in today off Neuromod - we can expect an update via the mailing list 'very soon'.

It's gone from soon to very soon.

 

[jmasterj]

Email in today off Neuromod - we can expect an update via the mailing list 'very soon'.

Well at least we have moved from "soon" to "very soon". I am still a bit disappointed they never got back to @Markku that I know of.

 

[Drone Draper]

I didn't get an e-mail, I feel less special.

What did the e-mail say?

 

[Jack Straw]

We have moved from "soon" to "very soon"!

Hopefully we can quickly get to "very very soon" and then "imminent" and then "very imminent", etc! Lol

 

[jmasterj]

I didn't get an e-mail, I feel less special.

What did the e-mail say?

I think @Allan1967 reached out on his own and that was the response he got. I am on the mailing list and have not received anything either.

 

[Drone Draper]

Right.

 

[Manny]

We have moved from "soon" to "very soon"!

Hopefully we can quickly get to "very very soon" and then "imminent" and then "very imminent", etc! Lol

Then from "effective" to "very effective"!!

 

[Drone Draper]

Then from bimodal to multimodal!

It fixes your tinnitus while you learn a new language or skill, like Neo in the Matrix.

 

[GlennS]

Will Neuromod be worth the wait?

 

[Allan1967]

That was all it said really. Thanks for the continued interest and there will be more released 'very soon' via newsletter.

I was basically asking if they could just release an update of some form.

 

[Watasha]

That was all it said really. Thanks for the continued interest and there will be more released 'very soon' via newsletter.

I was basically asking if they could just release an update of some form.

Isn't @kelpiemsp at the conference where Hubert Lim is speaking? If so, that would be a great update.

 

[Ger W]

I live in Ireland. I have had tinnitus for 3 months, hissing static type, in the left ear, it came on after head cold. Anyhow I rang Neuromod today and the receptionist said they are finishing off trial at St. James hospital in Dublin and that it won't be completed till May-June.

I thought the trials were all done?

 

[Drone Draper]

Good question, Ger.

Ed209 spotted a thread on the BTA's forum of a guy who appeared to be part of a new trial in the UK.

https://healthunlocked.com/bta/posts/139596150/neuromod-hearing-aids-coming-to-devon-torbay

So they could be doing additional trials to the ones we know of.

 

[ajc]

So they could be doing additional trials to the ones we know of.

They are not, it's the TENT-A2 study, it's still in progress as I saw in the Q&A.

 

[Drone Draper]

Right. Sorry, I was confused, I thought the TENT-A2 was finished.

 

[Jack Straw]

I live in Ireland. I have had tinnitus for 3 months, hissing static type, in the left ear, it came on after head cold. Anyhow I rang Neuromod today and the receptionist said they are finishing off trial at St. James hospital in Dublin and that it won't be completed till May-June.

I thought the trials were all done?

I hope this doesn't mean they are waiting for this trial to finish and then analyze it before releasing the treatment. That would mean a European release would be Q4 and then probably a 2020 release for sure for US.

 

[Mathew Gould]

I hope this doesn't mean they are waiting for this trial to finish and then analyze it before releasing the treatment. That would mean a European release would be Q4 and then probably a 2020 release for sure for US.

I thought Neuromod couldn't release it in the US or it was going to be a year or 2 later?

 

[PDodge]

I thought Neuromod couldn't release it in the US or it was going to be a year or 2 later?

They're doing US tours right now, there was a presentation today.

 

[Watasha]

I hope this doesn't mean they are waiting for this trial to finish and then analyze it before releasing the treatment. That would mean a European release would be Q4 and then probably a 2020 release for sure for US.

This probably makes sense if you were them, don't you think? I couldn't see them releasing the device knowing that there may be more optimal protocols available.

 

[Redknight]

https://aas.memberclicks.net/assets/19_Podiums.pdf

Page 4 I think. It sums up TENT-A2 as similar results as TENT-A1 and a particular configuration prevailing as having better results than others. Here's hoping that the identification of more beneficial configuration settings will increase the devices success rates even further.

 

[Redknight]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/neuromod-buzzing-in-24m-tinnitus-boost-rg0b5tgcq

I'm guessing that no investor would give them €24m if the results aren't encouraging. It also states they intend to start making revenue in early 2019.

 

[Paulmanlike]

I hope this doesn't mean they are waiting for this trial to finish and then analyze it before releasing the treatment. That would mean a European release would be Q4 and then probably a 2020 release for sure for US.

They may learn something new from the TENT-A2 and it may confirm the efficacy 80% - 2/3 significant. If they learn something new it may be incorporated in the final release - which is good news for us if it improves our chances of responding.