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#3,361
IAmCalifornia said:
Benzos. Acupuncture. Therapy


Let see put it this way. I've had this crap for a couple years. I have scoured every treatment possible. I refused TRT, as I blew threw my savings for doctors, benzos, conventional therapy, hypnosis, acupuncture, chiropractic, cranial sacral,


What is the Minnesota device
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It's a new device that's like the Susan Shore device, but it's undergoing trials right now, and a user here is involved and giving updates. So far from what he said it seems really promising. I guess the dB of his tinnitus has so far dropped by 7-10dB.
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/thread...and-body-stimulation.28022/page-8#post-357666
 
#3,362
Can't wait to call some friends to go out tomorrow
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#3,365
#3,368
Just wanted to share this:

Yesterday I went and bought some more CBD oil and got the highest concentration and took a large dose twice, probably $15-$20 worth over the evening and today I'm sitting in my quiet office and my tinnitus is essentially gone. It's definitely still perceptible, but just hardly.
 
#3,374
i dont even know if i belong on this forum, i am far more concerened about a treatment for my muffled right ear hearing then tinnitus, even if solving hearing loss wouldn't reduce tinnitus
 
#3,376
JohnAdams said:
But here it is if anyone is interested. This is me, before I had T. I'm the entire author of this song. My voice, my lyrics, me on guitar, my recording.I originally wrote this song about my wife...... Hope you enjoy.
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Thanks so much for posting that song. It is quite nice and its sentiment lovely. Quite meaningful too. Something I am very glad to hear right now.
 
#3,378
#3,383
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This pretty much cast doubt on the outdated idea that bent hair cells are the cause of chronic tinnitus.
 
#3,385
Contrast said:
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This pretty much cast doubt on the outdated idea that bent hair cells are the cause of chronic tinnitus.
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The nerve damage model would better explain why cbd oil seems to work to suppress symptoms. Also that would explain why some people report spontaneous recovery from tinnitus. Our nerves are plastic and can also rewire and heal. Do you agree with that?
 
#3,386
JohnAdams said:
The nerve damage model would better explain why cbd oil seems to work to suppress symptoms. Also that would explain why some people report spontaneous recovery from tinnitus. Our nerves are plastic and can also rewire and heal. Do you agree with that?
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I don't think you understand what neuro-plastic models are proposing.

in a nutshell the brain compensating to hearing loss by making a phantom noise
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ear plugs, ear wax, middle ear bone disfunction, hair cell damage, synapse damage, Audiotory nerve damage, central hearing damage in the brain all can cause tinnitus because they all share one thing in common
(depriving hearing input.)

Its stating tinnitus likely has something to do with higher brain functions compensating for hearing deprivation no matter what form of hearing loss it is. That's the most logical explanation because ear wax, acoustic trauma and AN sevaration all can be explained in one hypothesis as opposed to NMDA models which to my knowledge don't have an explanation.

What and why the brain is doing this is very poorly understood but it's suggested tinnitus and phantom limb pain, chronic pain are similar and need to be cross discipline researched. I am personally subscribed to the idea and would be very surprised if models of tinnitus being neurological phantom compensation for hearing loss are wrong.

I am just curious why auris medical had a largely separate model of tinnitus that doesn't match with the hypothesis


once again I am not qualified in any sense to come to conclusions of my own, I am just curious on why there are contradictions, one group says less input from the audiotory nerve and the other says more. If i'm missing something I'd love to be corrected if I'm missing something and would change my mind in a hearbeat if this model could be disproved by a future study but so far it holds its ground. Tinnitus isn't showing evidence of being peripheral but rather central.
 
#3,387
Contrast said:
I don't think you understand what neuro-plastic models are proposing.

in a nutshell the brain compensating to hearing loss by making a phantom noise
View attachment 20766

ear plugs, ear wax, middle ear bone disfunction, hair cell damage, synapse damage, Audiotory nerve damage, central hearing damage in the brain all can cause tinnitus because they all share one thing in common
(depriving hearing input.)

Its stating tinnitus likely has something to do with higher brain functions compensating for hearing deprivation no matter what form of hearing loss it is. That's the most logical explanation because ear wax, acoustic trauma and AN sevaration all can be explained in one hypothesis as opposed to NMDA models which to my knowledge don't have an explanation.

What and why the brain is doing this is very poorly understood but it's suggested tinnitus and phantom limb pain, chronic pain are similar and need to be cross discipline researched. I am personally subscribed to the idea and would be very surprised if models of tinnitus being neurological phantom compensation for hearing loss are wrong.

I am just curious why auris medical had a largely separate model of tinnitus that doesn't match with the hypothesis


once again I am not qualified in any sense to come to conclusions of my own, I am just curious on why there are contradictions, one group says less input from the audiotory nerve and the other says more. If i'm missing something I'd love to be corrected if I'm missing something and would change my mind in a hearbeat if this model could be disproved by a future study but so far it holds its ground. Tinnitus isn't showing evidence of being peripheral but rather central.
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Excellent post.
 
#3,388
The reason i'm posting all this "science stuff" is not just for my own curiosity, I am well aware I am not qualified to be doing research not have the brains to do so. I am just hoping researchers browse MPP and decide to publicly answer these questions in the near future.
 
#3,389
1:"bent/twitching hair cells cause chronic tinnitus"
2:"pusatile tinnitus shares a connection to actual tinnitus"
3:" "liver damage causes tinnitus because Chinese medicine said so"
4: Acoustic trauma, and or balance problems and or hyperacusis but no hearing loss said ENT"


Here are the 4 most common errors I notice on this forum listed in no particular order
(4 is the most common)
 
#3,390
Contrast said:
I don't think you understand what neuro-plastic models are proposing.

in a nutshell the brain compensating to hearing loss by making a phantom noise
View attachment 20766

ear plugs, ear wax, middle ear bone disfunction, hair cell damage, synapse damage, Audiotory nerve damage, central hearing damage in the brain all can cause tinnitus because they all share one thing in common
(depriving hearing input.)

Its stating tinnitus likely has something to do with higher brain functions compensating for hearing deprivation no matter what form of hearing loss it is. That's the most logical explanation because ear wax, acoustic trauma and AN sevaration all can be explained in one hypothesis as opposed to NMDA models which to my knowledge don't have an explanation.

What and why the brain is doing this is very poorly understood but it's suggested tinnitus and phantom limb pain, chronic pain are similar and need to be cross discipline researched. I am personally subscribed to the idea and would be very surprised if models of tinnitus being neurological phantom compensation for hearing loss are wrong.

I am just curious why auris medical had a largely separate model of tinnitus that doesn't match with the hypothesis


once again I am not qualified in any sense to come to conclusions of my own, I am just curious on why there are contradictions, one group says less input from the audiotory nerve and the other says more. If i'm missing something I'd love to be corrected if I'm missing something and would change my mind in a hearbeat if this model could be disproved by a future study but so far it holds its ground. Tinnitus isn't showing evidence of being peripheral but rather central.
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thanks. I've been of the opinion expressed in your cartoon. so how you think that bodes for the regeneration of cochlear cells as a cure?
 

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